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Trump Caught On Hot Mic In 2005: 'Grab Them By The P***y'

Fiddytree said:
You do realize if it was a con, Republicans loved what he was offering, right?
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That is what makes for a successful con now isn't it. But yes, his platform is a winning platform. Its just that he is a loser. Like I said earlier, imagine how far ahead he would be were he able to show any level of professionalism, maturity or self-restraint. He is the worst candidate in human history, has run a horrible campaign, says the dumbest things imaginable and is still within striking distance of Hillary.
 
Fiddytree said:
First 38% of primary voters. Now between 42-44% of likely voters.

They own this.
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Yes, 38% of primary voters. A minority. Barely over 1/3 of those who bothered to vote in the primaries.

The likely voter polls do not necessarily indicate an approval of Trump; they could just as likely indicate a greater disapproval of Hillary.

That's all a far cry from "Republicans loved what he was offering."
 
Fletch said:
That is what makes for a successful con now isn't it. But yes, his platform is a winning platform. Its just that he is a loser. Like I said earlier, imagine how far ahead he would be were he able to show any level of professionalism, maturity or self-restraint. He is the worst candidate in human history, has run a horrible campaign, says the dumbest things imaginable and is still within striking distance of Hillary.
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What you're not willing to acknowledge is that this is a disease within the conservative movement itself.
 
Harshaw said:
Yes, 38% of primary voters. A minority. Barely over 1/3 of those who bothered to vote in the primaries.

The likely voter polls do not necessarily indicate an approval of Trump; they could just as likely indicate a greater disapproval of Hillary.

That's all a far cry from "Republicans loved what he was offering."
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They are willing to tolerate this monstrosity. An endorsement of Donald Trump- a vote for Donald Trump, even against Hillary Clinton is a victory for the false equivalency of moral relativism.
 
Fiddytree said:
It made a lot more sense when I figured out that their family values plank was a facade.
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however, that 'compassionate conservatism' was a solid plank: starve the beast to eliminate the social safety net aiding the least among us
that's when they all collectively adorned their what would Jesus do bracelets
 
Fiddytree said:
They are willing to tolerate this monstrosity. An endorsement of Donald Trump- a vote for Donald Trump, even against Hillary Clinton is a victory for the false equivalency of moral relativism.
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They're willing to tolerate him only because they think Hillary is worse.

Despite what you seem to want to believe very badly, this does not mean they "love" what he "offers."
 
Harshaw said:
They're willing to tolerate him only because they think Hillary is worse.

Despite what you seem to want to believe very badly, this does not mean they "love" what he "offers."
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Because conservatives cannot see that Hillary Clinton is better than Donald Trump, they have become morally corrupted.
 
Top Cat said:
Fortunately conservatives never do such things.:lamo
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hell, they went out and got one of their own: michael steele

unfortunately for him, he was black

so they settled for the donald
 
Fiddytree said:
Because conservatives cannot see that Hillary Clinton is better than Donald Trump, they have become morally corrupted.
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^^^^^

"They don't agree with me, so they're terrible people."
 
Harshaw said:
^^^^^

"They don't agree with me, so they're terrible people."
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If you vote for the least qualified candidate in the history of the United States, who has no redeemable qualifies whatsoever, because you somehow think an ineffective, mediocre nominee is not the answer, you are part of the problem. Period.
 
Wow. Just... wow.

This is a total disaster for Trump. No amount of spin or deflection can cover this one up.

I don't know what effect this will have, but Trump is already tanking with women voters. This cannot be good. For him, that is.
 
Fiddytree said:
If you vote for the least qualified candidate in the history of the United States, who has no redeemable qualifies whatsoever, because you somehow think an ineffective, mediocre nominee is not the answer, you are part of the problem. Period.
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Why does it have to be one or the other? I'm voting for neither because they're both equally horrible.
 
Fiddytree said:
If you vote for the least qualified candidate in the history of the United States, who has no redeemable qualifies whatsoever, because you somehow think an ineffective, mediocre nominee is not the answer, you are part of the problem.
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There are many reasons why a conservative would find Trump less objectionable on principle and on policy. That you cannot grasp them doesn't mean they're the awful, morally-corrupt people you want to think they are. They're making the best of an intolerable choice.

But hey, they don't see things your way, so they're bad, bad people. What a joke. This conversation is too asinine to countenance any further.
 
Fletch said:
The support he has among republicans is irrelevant. Its a binary choice. Where would you like them to go? And Trump isn't a republican problem, he has unwittingly illuminated the solution. Think of it this way: a different republican saying the same things as Trump without constantly putting his foot in his mouth would be leading Hillary by double digits. He has the right message but is the wrong messenger.
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"[A liberal] has the right message."

-Fletch, 2016.
 
Visbek said:
Wow. Just... wow.

This is a total disaster for Trump. No amount of spin or deflection can cover this one up.

I don't know what effect this will have, but Trump is already tanking with women voters. This cannot be good. For him, that is.
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Oh, c'mon. He's been saying these kinds of things the entire election season. This isn't surprising in the least.
 
Harshaw said:
^^^^^

"They don't agree with me, so they're terrible people."
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No, they are terrible people because they are supporting a terrible person.
 
Josie said:
Why does it have to be one or the other? I'm voting for neither because they're both equally horrible.
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As am I.
 
Josie said:
Why does it have to be one or the other? I'm voting for neither because they're both equally horrible.
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So long as one doesn't pull the lever for Trump, it's all good.
 
Harshaw said:
There are many reasons why a conservative would find Trump less objectionable on principle and on policy. That you cannot grasp them doesn't mean they're the awful, morally-corrupt people you want to think they are. They're making the best of an intolerable choice.

But hey, they don't see things your way, so they're bad, bad people. What a joke. This conversation is too asinine to countenance any further.
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There are reasons but none of them are sane.
 
Deuce said:
No, they are terrible people because they are supporting a terrible person.
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And Hillary supporters are also supporting a terrible person. But unlike Fiddy and apparently you, I don't automatically think they're terrible, awful people for doing so.
 
Harshaw said:
There are many reasons why a conservative would find Trump less objectionable on principle and on policy. That you cannot grasp them doesn't mean they're the awful, morally-corrupt people you want to think they are. They're making the best of an intolerable choice.

But hey, they don't see things your way, so they're bad, bad people. What a joke. This conversation is too asinine to countenance any further.
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Yeah, I will go so far as to say that people who willingly or reluctantly vote for Trump are problematic citizens.
 
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