Father says son was suffering psychotic episode during shooting spree

Father says son was suffering psychotic episode during shooting spree

Tom S. Mourning II

.....What ensued was the early morning shooting spree in Joplin that injured five people and two service dogs. Tom Mourning Jr., 26, is facing multiple counts of assault, armed criminal action and unlawful use and discharge of a weapon in the wake of the spree. Police believe the shootings were random, with the suspect never specifically targeting any of the victims.....

http://www.joplinglobe.com/news/local_news/father-says-son-was-suffering-psychotic-episode-during-shooting-spree/article_31abdd76-85fd-5130-aed6-3e3f0e386071.html

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From another article....

......Joplin police say a man has been arrested after five people were injured in two apparently random roadway shootings.Tom Mourning, 26, is accused of opening fire on vehicles as police pursued him early Saturday morning. Bullets flew into a pickup and a nearby church van.
Two people in the truck and two people in the church van were wounded. Two comfort dogs were shot in the crossfire, and one of their handlers remains in critical but stable condition.
Police said there's no apparent motive for the shooting.....

2 comfort dogs, 3 people shot in Joplin | KSDK.com

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And Yahoo.....

.....Comfort dogs have become a familiar sight for communities and families ravaged by gun violence. This weekend, they became inadvertent victims.

Two golden retrievers from a Lutheran Church Charities K-9 Comfort Dog unit and their human handlers were among those wounded in a random shooting spree in Joplin, Mo., on Saturday morning, officials say.....

https://www.yahoo.com/news/comfort-dogs-joplin-shooting-000000818.html

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Seems as though more information about the condition of dogs can be found here. https://m.facebook.com/k9comfort/

What a world.


eace

dimensionallava said:

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Does it hurt being so wrong about reality? Or is there a strange numbing comfort in not worrying about reality?

dimensionallava said:

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Obligatory race card played. :roll:

dimensionallava said:

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Put the race card back in the deck, please.

With Love,

TheGoverness

dimensionallava said:

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Kal'Stang said:

Obligatory race card played. :roll:

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TheGoverness said:

Put the race card back in the deck, please.

With Love,

TheGoverness

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Some others here don't seem to get it. If the guy had been an illegal immigrant or black or especially if he'd been a Muslim, we wouldn't have heard the end of it, no matter how mentally disturbed the guy was. Just look at how the Right raised Cain about BLM when it came to the shooters in Dallas and in Baton Rouge - even though it quickly became apparent in BOTH cases that they had nothing of significance to do with BLM, and were both quite mentally disturbed.

In other words, DL, even though I strongly disagreed with what you said in another thread, at least on this one, you're spot on.

Glen Contrarian said:

Some others here don't seem to get it. If the guy had been an illegal immigrant or black or especially if he'd been a Muslim, we wouldn't have heard the end of it, no matter how mentally disturbed the guy was. Just look at how the Right raised Cain about BLM when it came to the shooters in Dallas and in Baton Rouge - even though it quickly became apparent in BOTH cases that they had nothing of significance to do with BLM, and were both quite mentally disturbed.

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Point taken, Glen.

Glen Contrarian said:

Some others here don't seem to get it. If the guy had been an illegal immigrant or black or especially if he'd been a Muslim, we wouldn't have heard the end of it, no matter how mentally disturbed the guy was. Just look at how the Right raised Cain about BLM when it came to the shooters in Dallas and in Baton Rouge - even though it quickly became apparent in BOTH cases that they had nothing of significance to do with BLM, and were both quite mentally disturbed.

In other words, DL, even though I strongly disagreed with what you said in another thread, at least on this one, you're spot on.

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Actually that's not really the case at all, unless it suits your politics better to ignore context. you can't ignore the moslem screaming allahu ackbar while killing gays in a gay bar as mental derangement the same as someone with no apparent motivation targetting a school.

dimensionallava said:

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That may be the best thing that ever came from Family Guy.

Glen Contrarian said:

Some others here don't seem to get it. If the guy had been an illegal immigrant or black or especially if he'd been a Muslim, we wouldn't have heard the end of it, no matter how mentally disturbed the guy was. Just look at how the Right raised Cain about BLM when it came to the shooters in Dallas and in Baton Rouge - even though it quickly became apparent in BOTH cases that they had nothing of significance to do with BLM, and were both quite mentally disturbed.

In other words, DL, even though I strongly disagreed with what you said in another thread, at least on this one, you're spot on.

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So......

On one side of the liberal face.................... Trump incites violence by getting people fired up.

On the other of the liberal face.......................... Dallas shooter wasn't incited by the BLM movement? (even though he expressed this to the swat team that had him surrounded)

Excellent graphic! Too bad it doesn't have anything to do with the OP.

EMNofSeattle said:

Actually that's not really the case at all, unless it suits your politics better to ignore context. you can't ignore the moslem screaming allahu ackbar while killing gays in a gay bar as mental derangement the same as someone with no apparent motivation targetting a school.

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I don't think anyone is looking to ignore context but equally you can't ignore the mental illness (unless you consider it sane and rational to shoot up a gay bar!). The fact remains that regardless of their nominal motive or the element that finally triggered an act of extreme violence, pretty much anyone committing this kind of crime will be suffering some form of psychological issue. Healthy people don't do this regardless of their beliefs or circumstances.

The wider context that Islamic extremism acts as (or is used as) a trigger in some cases is certainly relevant but then so are the other things that a common factors behind these incidents and there will also be plenty of elements shared by cases that might appear very different on the surface. Trying to create a complete and impermeable logical barrier between incidents influenced by (or believed to have been influenced by) Islamic extremism and all otherwise similar incidents can only make it more difficult to identify the things we can do to prevent any of them happening in the first place.

Glen Contrarian said:

Some others here don't seem to get it. If the guy had been an illegal immigrant or black or especially if he'd been a Muslim, we wouldn't have heard the end of it, no matter how mentally disturbed the guy was. Just look at how the Right raised Cain about BLM when it came to the shooters in Dallas and in Baton Rouge - even though it quickly became apparent in BOTH cases that they had nothing of significance to do with BLM, and were both quite mentally disturbed.

In other words, DL, even though I strongly disagreed with what you said in another thread, at least on this one, you're spot on.

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Of course the shooters were linked to the BLM initially. Just like the shooter of Gabby Giffords was linked to Palins crosshairs ads by the left. So don't pretend that this is something that only happens on one side. Hell, every single mass shooting that happens the left turns it into a gun problem instead of facing the real problems. And to be fair, with the Dallas shooter it was quite understandable considering the calls for violence that members of the BLM have made. Or do I have to remind you of the "Pigs in a blanket, fry em like bacon" chant?

And quite frankly it wasn't the "right" that was trying to lay the blame on mental illness for this guy in this article. It was the parent. And most parents that don't want to face the truth will always lay the blame any where possible except their precious baby. Doesn't matter what color skin they are. Hell, look at Brown. Evidence showed that he attacked the officer. Evidence showed that Brown did not have his hands up but was indeed advancing on the officer. But what do the parents and partisan hacks still contend? That he was an innocent boy that was killed unjustly.

So yeah, race card played for no actual reason. And the fact that you are supporting it doesn't surprise anyone in the slightest.

In our town, a young man killed a 19-year old college student he didn't know. He stabbed her a minimum of 39 times. The body was so mutilated in spots that an exact count wasn't possible. The family had psychiatrists and psychologists lined up immediately. He was found innocent by reason of insanity, sent to the state hospital, and the hospital wanted to discharge him six weeks later saying he wasn't insane.

The not guilty by reason of insanity is a mess.

Kal'Stang said:

Of course the shooters were linked to the BLM initially. Just like the shooter of Gabby Giffords was linked to Palins crosshairs ads by the left. So don't pretend that this is something that only happens on one side.

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False equivalency. The accusations against BLM and especially against Muslims have been far, far more common than those against the Right. You're comparing a molehill to a mountain...or need I remind you of the strong support Trump has for requiring all Muslims to register with our government? Hm?

Hell, every single mass shooting that happens the left turns it into a gun problem instead of facing the real problems.

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And you don't even consider the possibility that the ease of access to firearms by all and sundry IS a very real part of the problem - heck, I'm sure you've seen for yourself the guidance terrorists give to each other about America, about how easy it is to get firearms here!

And to be fair, with the Dallas shooter it was quite understandable considering the calls for violence that members of the BLM have made. Or do I have to remind you of the "Pigs in a blanket, fry em like bacon" chant?

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Let me see here: you excuse the assumptions about the Dallas shooter because of the calls for violence by some (and CERTAINLY not the majority) of those marching with BLM...but you decry the assumptions made about the Right after the Gabby Giffords shooting when the "target" ads about here were put out by the your candidate for the vice presidency of the United States! Molehill, meet mountain!

And quite frankly it wasn't the "right" that was trying to lay the blame on mental illness for this guy in this article. It was the parent.

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That wasn't the point of the cartoon and you know it.

And most parents that don't want to face the truth will always lay the blame any where possible except their precious baby. Doesn't matter what color skin they are. Hell, look at Brown. Evidence showed that he attacked the officer. Evidence showed that Brown did not have his hands up but was indeed advancing on the officer. But what do the parents and partisan hacks still contend? That he was an innocent boy that was killed unjustly.

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Yeah, just like NINE freaking investigations ALL found zero wrongdoing by Hillary Clinton when it came to Benghazi...but the mother is still convinced (as, it seems, are most conservatives even now) that she caused that woman's son's death. But what you forgot to mention was that what happened to Brown was the proverbial straw that broke the camel's back, that the blacks of Ferguson had been the victims of endemic racism by the police and courts there for decades. THAT - and not the killing of Brown - was what caused the rioting. Brown's killing was only the spark that lit all the fuel that had been building up for decades.

How many times have we seen even here on DP how conservatives (and certain 'independents') are quick to point out that Brown was no angel, that the cop's actions may have been understandable...but at the same time, they pointedly ignore - and even deny - the endemic racism by Ferguson's police and courts for decades, and somehow convince themselves that the police and courts and their long-standing and documented racism had nothing to do with the riots there!

So yeah, race card played for no actual reason. And the fact that you are supporting it doesn't surprise anyone in the slightest.

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So yeah, race card played for GOOD reason...and the fact that you're trying to downplay its relevancy doesn't surprise anyone in the slightest.

RetiredUSN said:

So......

On one side of the liberal face.................... Trump incites violence by getting people fired up.

On the other of the liberal face.......................... Dallas shooter wasn't incited by the BLM movement? (even though he expressed this to the swat team that had him surrounded)

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One is a group of civilians, and the other is one of the two major candidates for president of the United States. One is a group that protests the historic and ongoing racism against blacks in America...and the other is the titular leader of ALL Republicans and most conservatives in America.

BLM has posted on its website: "Black Lives Matter is an ideological and political intervention in a world where Black lives are systematically and intentionally targeted for demise. It is an affirmation of Black folks’ contributions to this society, our humanity, and our resilience in the face of deadly oppression."

On the other hand, Trump has called for all Muslims to be registered with the government...because they are Muslim.

In other words, you presented a false equivalency.

EMNofSeattle said:

Actually that's not really the case at all, unless it suits your politics better to ignore context. you can't ignore the moslem screaming allahu ackbar while killing gays in a gay bar as mental derangement the same as someone with no apparent motivation targetting a school.

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And how does that one Muslim's actions excuse Trump's call for ALL Muslims to be required to register with our government?

Hm?

Just because one person does something evil does NOT excuse making assumptions about everyone else who happens to belong to that person's race or religion...and that's precisely the point of the cartoon.

Utility Man said:

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Seems as though more information about the condition of dogs can be found here. https://m.facebook.com/k9comfort/

What a world.


eace

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I can certainly believe that someone running around, shooting people at random is mentally unstable. Not that it forgives the actions...but I would certainly take them as being mentally unstable.

Glen Contrarian said:

False equivalency. The accusations against BLM and especially against Muslims have been far, far more common than those against the Right.

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I don't know if a lot of people know who the comfort dogs are. The Lutheran church funds them, and sends them out to many crisis situations in the country. There has been a comfort dog in Sandy Hook, still, every day since the tragedy. They visit people affected by shootings, fires, floods. They visit old people, people who are dying, policemen, firemen....they are unbelievable. And their handlers/owners are the nicest people who you would ever want to meet. I've made many donations over the years to the comfort dogs' funds because they are all being paid for by donations and their handlers - transportation, housing, etc. They are among the finest citizens of this nation.

I've been following this since it happened and I've been glad for all of the daily updates on both the dogs and the humans. I don't care what this bastard's father says. I would personally like to see him raped with a splintery broom for what he did.

tres borrachos said:

I don't know if a lot of people know who the comfort dogs are. The Lutheran church funds them, and sends them out to many crisis situations in the country. There has been a comfort dog in Sandy Hook, still, every day since the tragedy. They visit people affected by shootings, fires, floods. They visit old people, people who are dying, policemen, firemen....they are unbelievable. And their handlers/owners are the nicest people who you would ever want to meet. I've made many donations over the years to the comfort dogs' funds because they are all being paid for by donations and their handlers - transportation, housing, etc. They are among the finest citizens of this nation.

I've been following this since it happened and I've been glad for all of the daily updates on both the dogs and the humans. I don't care what this bastard's father says. I would personally like to see him raped with a splintery broom for what he did.

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****. Remind me never to piss you off.

tres borrachos said:

I don't know if a lot of people know who the comfort dogs are. The Lutheran church funds them, and sends them out to many crisis situations in the country. There has been a comfort dog in Sandy Hook, still, every day since the tragedy. They visit people affected by shootings, fires, floods. They visit old people, people who are dying, policemen, firemen....they are unbelievable. And their handlers/owners are the nicest people who you would ever want to meet. I've made many donations over the years to the comfort dogs' funds because they are all being paid for by donations and their handlers - transportation, housing, etc. They are among the finest citizens of this nation.

I've been following this since it happened and I've been glad for all of the daily updates on both the dogs and the humans. I don't care what this bastard's father says. I would personally like to see him raped with a splintery broom for what he did.

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5 people were hurt, but we just get pictures of the dogs. Who cares about the dogs....dime a dozen. People were hurt, that's were the major damage lies.

Ikari said:

5 people were hurt, but we just get pictures of the dogs. Who cares about the dogs....dime a dozen. People were hurt, that's were the major damage lies.

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I care about the dogs. A lot of people care about the dogs. If you have an issue with the pictures the OP posted, take it up with him, not me.

By the way, trained comfort dogs aren't a "dime a dozen".:roll:

tres borrachos said:

I care about the dogs. A lot of people care about the dogs. If you have an issue with the pictures the OP posted, take it up with him, not me.

By the way, trained comfort dogs aren't a "dime a dozen".:roll:

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It's an expression.

Dogs come and go, they are property. You can easily replace a "comfort dog", you cannot easily replace a human being.