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Trump: As president, I would prosecute Clinton

Carleen said:
Trump thinks he a one man band. He thinks he can do anything he wants as President. He would be terrible for both parties and the American people.
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Trump or Hillary, take your pick...
 
cpwill said:
It's not just the CBO. It's the IMF, the GAO, Obama Administration Secretary of Treasury, the right-leaning Institute for Policy Innovation, the left-leaning Brookings Institute, the Medicare Trustees, etc. so on an so forth.


The debt is a problem. Mostly because we are currently scheduled to dramatically pile on more and more and more. If we had anything close to a balanced budget forecast for the next two decades, we would be in better waters - but that's not where we are.
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The debt is a problem. But the debt is manageable if the budget can be brought under control (stop the increase in the debt). Unfortunately few people believe this is important, or we would actually see some real discussion about how to fix it.

The problem is that neither party is willing to advocate positions to fix the deficits. Until the Republicans can accept some tax increases AND the Dems can accept some restructuring of the Big Three, nothing is going to change. This continued notion that the other party has to make the sacrifices is NOT showing a willingness to fix to core issue.
 
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upsideguy said:
The debt is a problem. But the debt is manageable if the budget can be brought under control (stop the increase in the debt). Unfortunately few people believe this is important, or we would actually see some real discussion about how to fix it.

The problem is that neither party is willing to advocate positions to fix the deficits.
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This is untrue. Republicans went first on this, and approved a budget designed to fix the deficits. Democrats were supposed to give their counter-proposal, and instead chose to start the 2012 campaign by accusing Republicans of wanting to murder old ladies and disabled children.
 
Trump will not be president so he won't get to prosecute Clinton.

Wait and see.

He may not even be the candidate.The old White men who run the GOP haven't decided who that's going to be yet.

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shrubnose said:
Trump will not be president so he won't get to prosecute Clinton.

Wait and see.

He may not even be the candidate.The old White men who run the GOP haven't decided who that's going to be yet.

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"Harry Reid endorses Clinton"

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"Old white men that run the party........"
 
cpwill said:
This is untrue. Republicans went first on this, and approved a budget designed to fix the deficits. Democrats were supposed to give their counter-proposal, and instead chose to start the 2012 campaign by accusing Republicans of wanting to murder old ladies and disabled children.
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LOL Why is it that the Republicans only want to "fix" the deficit when they have a Democrat in the Whitehouse? We had 8 years of Bush and 8 years of growing deficits and a VP who said "Reagan proved Deficits don't matter". Then we have the 2016 candidates tax proposals that all reduce revenue by massive amounts. There is nothing there that says they are serious about anything but discrediting and obstructing the current Administration.
 
iguanaman said:
LOL Why is it that the Republicans only want to "fix" the deficit when they have a Democrat in the Whitehouse? We had 8 years of Bush and 8 years of growing deficits and a VP who said "Reagan proved Deficits don't matter". Then we have the 2016 candidates tax proposals that all reduce revenue by massive amounts. There is nothing there that says they are serious about anything but discrediting and obstructing the current Administration.
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That's a mostly true statement. It's kinda like saying why do democrats pretend to give a damn about the poor, abortion rights, minorities, etc. They do what they do because they are politicians.

There are fiscal conservatives that stood up to Bush. The Tea Party republicans got their start in opposition. To Bush's bank bailout proposals. Many still stand in opposition to not only democrats but their own party.
 
VanceMack said:
That's a mostly true statement. It's kinda like saying why do democrats pretend to give a damn about the poor, abortion rights, minorities, etc. They do what they do because they are politicians.

There are fiscal conservatives that stood up to Bush. The Tea Party republicans got their start in opposition. To Bush's bank bailout proposals. Many still stand in opposition to not only democrats but their own party.
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Yet the "tea party" candidates also propose tax cuts that massively reduce revenue and increase deficits. You are being duped. No Republican President in modern history has even reduced deficits during his term no less "pay down the debt".
 
iguanaman said:
LOL Why is it that the Republicans only want to "fix" the deficit when they have a Democrat in the Whitehouse? We had 8 years of Bush and 8 years of growing deficits and a VP who said "Reagan proved Deficits don't matter". Then we have the 2016 candidates tax proposals that all reduce revenue by massive amounts. There is nothing there that says they are serious about anything but discrediting and obstructing the current Administration.
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Actually it was opposition to Bush and his spending that started the movement that became the Tea Party. I agree that Republicans are often weak on the issue.

In 2011, however, Republicans proposed a budget designed to fix the deficits, and place our federal government on a sustainable fiscal path. Notably, they showed courage in grabbing the "Third Rail of American Politics" - entitlements. Obama invited them to hear his counter, and so they went. When they got there, Obama had camera's focus on their face and then spent an hour or so telling the rest of the room that Republicans were evil meanies who wanted to target grandmothers and disabled children.

Republicans proved they were willing to be the mature adults in the room, and go first. Obama and the Democrats preferred to play the demagogue, and kick the can down the road, where it grows larger.
 
VanceMack said:
"Harry Reid endorses Clinton"

:lamo

"Old white men that run the party..
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Old White men do run the GOP.

Take a good look at this year's GOP convention and see who selects the GOP's candidate.

You'll see a lot more old White males there than you'll see women or members of minorities. Check it out.
 
cpwill said:
This is untrue. Republicans went first on this, and approved a budget designed to fix the deficits. Democrats were supposed to give their counter-proposal, and instead chose to start the 2012 campaign by accusing Republicans of wanting to murder old ladies and disabled children.
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...and what tax increases were in the budget?
 
iguanaman said:
Yet the "tea party" candidates also propose tax cuts that massively reduce revenue and increase deficits. You are being duped. No Republican President in modern history has even reduced deficits during his term no less "pay down the debt".
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I'm not being duped. I left the GOP in 2003. I see both parties for what they are.

And while you fail on about the GOP, both parties and especially this administration have created a mountain of debt that will be stuck to future generations. Your partisan ramblings are as much of the problem as either party.
 
Grand Mal said:
Presidents can do that?
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They certainly can send signals, and if one is to send signals... now is the time. Plus... this is a brilliant political move, as masses of people have had it way beyond their eyeballs with The Clinton Crime Family.

Obama, Sanders, Klinton, Kerry, etc... don't have to send signals... their nominees and placements... say at the IRS or DoJ know what to do. They don't need signals as they're of the same radikal mindset as Obama.
 
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upsideguy said:
...and what tax increases were in the budget?
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None. It was the Republican Budget, and we prefer not to add additional drag to the economy while trying to save it from future wreckage. Democrats were supposed to respond with their adult take, and then the two sides get together to figure it out. Instead, Democrats chose to demagogue.
 
Carleen said:
Trump thinks he a one man band. He thinks he can do anything he wants as President. He would be terrible for both parties and the American people.
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Spoken as a true Socialist.
 
Casper said:
Maybe Trump should worry about his own legal problems before talking about the fantasies of his Fan Club Members.
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Did he have a private server that most likely revealed 1300-plus secret docs to our enemies?

I'll take any legal challenges Trump may have over Klinton and her blatant disregard of our national security.
 
cpwill said:
None. It was the Republican Budget, and we prefer not to add additional drag to the economy while trying to save it from future wreckage. Democrats were supposed to respond with their adult take, and then the two sides get together to figure it out. Instead, Democrats chose to demagogue.
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Therein is my point. There isn't a legitimate effort by either party to solve the problem because they want to there other side to carry all the water. The Republican proposal was not serious as it contained no olive branches and the Democratic response was not serious, because their was no response. They aren't serious.

Let me restate: not until the Republicans are open to tax increases AND the Dems are open to reform of social programs can we say that Washington is serious about deficits.
 
upsideguy said:
Therein is my point. There isn't a legitimate effort by either party to solve the problem because they want to there other side to carry all the water.
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No, it's an opening bid, in which Republicans went first, and proved that they were willing to take on the most politically dangerous portion - entitlement reform. Democrats face little if any backlash from proposing higher taxes (though they wouldn't receive the revenues they are hoping for).

Let me restate: not until the Republicans are open to tax increases AND the Dems are open to reform of social programs can we say that Washington is serious about deficits.
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Republicans have already proven that they are serious by grabbing the third rail. Democrats proved they weren't by demagoging them on it. Republicans aren't going to negotiate against themselves.
 
Sweden said:
The cheapest trick. Invent things that someone you dislike is supposed to have said, put them in quotes and hope that some less discerning readers will actually fall for it.
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What "invention?"


For **** sakes that's a paraphrasing of every damn ting he's said! It's as close to word for word you can get.....and it's "inventing"?

If that's an indication of the sharpness of Trump supporters the US is in serious ****ing trouble
 
Grand Mal said:
Presidents can do that?
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The Donald appears to be confused about the role of president. He's so used to be king and a bully, in his companies his word is law!

His followers are going to be disappointed: there will never be a wall, he will not ban Islamic immigration, he will not prosecute Hillary, he will NOT do most of what he claims.........
 
Fearandloathing said:
The Donald appears to be confused about the role of president. He's so used to be king and a bully, in his companies his word is law!

His followers are going to be disappointed: there will never be a wall, he will not ban Islamic immigration, he will not prosecute Hillary, he will NOT do most of what he claims.........
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Well... he has done things, and he has illustrated how to take on the PC CCCP Press.

As for what you claim he won't do... let's see. We know none of the candidates in the race with the exception of Cruz would get any of it done.

We also know people want this stuff done... and with McCain and Romney... they illustrated how not to get things done.

Time will tell if you're right... or if he'll be as effective as the BC Government and their Fast Cats.

I have my concerns, but they're far smaller than with anyone except Cruz.
 
cpwill said:
No one is asking you to buy anything. I'm asking you a question. If Trump changes positions based on what is good for him at the moment, what makes you think that he will not change his current positions as soon as it becomes good for him to do so?

Why do you think that, as soon as he is in the White House, when it becomes beneficial for him to follow through with his plan to simply declare Amnesty, that he will not do so?
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Well, first off you know that isn't his plan. You are so threatened by the loss to your favorite congress critters and being proven wrong in all your predictions that you have to make stuff up.

But really, c'mon, the president doesn't declare amnesty, we've been through that with Obama trying it small scale and he got his hand slapped.

cpwill said:
Run up our debt and drive portions of us into bankruptcy? Well, given his refusal to address the drivers of our growing debt, I could see that.
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:lamo that's where we are now, BEFORE Trump. Nice try though.
 
zimmer said:
Well... he has done things, and he has illustrated how to take on the PC CCCP Press.

As for what you claim he won't do... let's see. We know none of the candidates in the race with the exception of Cruz would get any of it done.

We also know people want this stuff done... and with McCain and Romney... they illustrated how not to get things done.

Time will tell if you're right... or if he'll be as effective as the BC Government and their Fast Cats.
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If a carnival barker can be accredited with "taking on the press"

What he has done is be a real estate developer who forces people out of their homes so he can build casinos. That's it.

He has no background in dealing on the international stage, none in setting public budgets, and grandiose ideas that can't ever happen. He's selling you a crack pipe and all of America's reactionaries are drooling at the hope of being able to punish some Democrats and show those ****ing Arabs a thing or two...

Problem is, it's not a high school football game...there will be consequences. And if any of his supporters ever paused to think about those consequences they wouldn't be supporters
 
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