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WV wants to criminalize teaching 'social problems' before geography

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And of course, the call is coming from the "small-government" right wing. (State HB 2107).

The bill makes clear that “before students may participate in secondary level courses involving the study of social problems, global economics, foreign affairs, the United Nations, world government, socialism or communism, pupils shall first have completed basic instruction in geography, United States history, United States government and the government of the State of West Virginia, local governments in West Virginia, the Declaration of Independence and the Constitutions of the United States and the State of West Virginia.”

What if the study of the history of the United States involves the study of social problems, like slavery?

Is the teacher charged with a crime?

What if the study of the U.S. history involves the study of global economics?

Will the teacher be fired?

What if the study of U.S. history involves the study of a U.S. president, Woodrow Wilson, who first proposed the League of Nations?

Will the teacher be dragged out of school?
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Source: West Virginia Legislation Would Criminalize Teaching Social Problems First | Common Dreams | Breaking News & Views for the Progressive Community
 
It may be a flawed bill, but I kind of understand the premise. If the student understands the layout and general history of the world first, it's probably easier to teach and promote higher level thinking skills regarding more complex social issues.
 
Some people are just looking to make Mt. Everest out of a mole hill. Nobody is going to be fired to teaching about slavery in US history. Good Lord. Someone's bias regulator is malfunctioning.
 
It seems ridiculous for a legislature to micromanage school curriculum like this, when there are plenty of experts in elementary education who are much better qualified to recommend which topics are best to teach when.

Why not pick some and choose the best recommendation, instead of having legislators waste time with this kind of thing.
 
I wish more schools would do this.

I think students severely lack a good based foundational knowledge when it comes to our nations history and constitution and the rights contained therein.
by doing this you can then apply and build off of that foundation.

I think people are jumping the gun but considering the site. they want people dumb and knowing those founding principles actually does hurt the progressive agenda because
it is harder to brainwash people that have solid educations.
 
It is much easier to just throw out social topics to kill time than to actually teach the subject at hand. This is becoming commonly accepted in liberal-friendly schools.

And then they wonder why these get smoked on the SAT and ACT tests compared to more structured schools, which demand their teachers actually teach and students actually learn before spewing half-baked opinions about things they don't have the basic education to understand.

What's scarier is when you meet some of these teachers out in public. You don't feel like you're even talking to a high school graduate.
 
DifferentDrummr said:
It seems ridiculous for a legislature to micromanage school curriculum like this, when there are plenty of experts in elementary education who are much better qualified to recommend which topics are best to teach when.

Why not pick some and choose the best recommendation, instead of having legislators waste time with this kind of thing.
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If you're outraged by this, I bet you're just torn to hell over Common Core, NCLB, and the interference of the federal legislature and most state legislatures in the individual curriculum of every district in the nation....because NONE of them independently define what and when and how to teach. They are all under the mandates of strict local, state, and federal standards.
 
DifferentDrummr said:
And of course, the call is coming from the "small-government" right wing. (State HB 2107).
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Source: West Virginia Legislation Would Criminalize Teaching Social Problems First | Common Dreams | Breaking News & Views for the Progressive Community
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This looks to me like a clumsy, brutal, hamfisted attempt to address a genuine problem. Public schools have strayed too far from teaching genuine, meaningful, important lessons, and into wrong-wing social indoctrination. We need to get back to having schools focus first and foremost of reading, writing, and mathematics, and on other necessary skills that will prepare students to go into The Real World and become productive citizens; and we need schools to stop filling young kids' heads with wrong-wing-socialist/statist crap that serves no purpose other than to help them become mindless, complacent sheep who will do what Big Brother tells them to do, without question or pause.
 
tessaesque said:
If you're outraged by this, I bet you're just torn to hell over Common Core, NCLB, and the interference of the federal legislature and most state legislatures in the individual curriculum of every district in the nation....because NONE of them independently define what and when and how to teach. They are all under the mandates of strict local, state, and federal standards.
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I'm sure that some of those mandates make sense and that others are impractical. What I care about mostly is that whoever drafts these mandates knows enough about education to do so.
 
DifferentDrummr said:
I'm sure that some of those mandates make sense and that others are impractical. What I care about mostly is that whoever drafts these mandates knows enough about education to do so.
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You will find that most BOEs and legislative members do not, in fact, hold degrees in any field related to education.
 
Erod said:
It is much easier to just throw out social topics to kill time than to actually teach the subject at hand. This is becoming commonly accepted in liberal-friendly schools.

And then they wonder why these get smoked on the SAT and ACT tests compared to more structured schools, which demand their teachers actually teach and students actually learn before spewing half-baked opinions about things they don't have the basic education to understand.

What's scarier is when you meet some of these teachers out in public. You don't feel like you're even talking to a high school graduate.
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You can't blame liberalism for our problems with public education: mostly you have to blame the teachers' union (which I never liked).

Their entire legacy has been to protect their most incompetent members while not caring at all about educating their classes. Sorry to say it, but they're a perfect example of how not to run a union.
 
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