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Walmart Threatened Workers For Trying To Organize, Judge Rules

Thom Paine said:
SO ! what you're really saying is .. ya' got something against .................................................blah, blah, blah.

:mrgreen: Just joking Twixie ....

I got your gist/point.

Thom Paine
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I like you Thom Paine...I like that you get my sense of humor..:cool:
 
Crovax said:
Walmarts policy, and the law is not to retaliate against organized workers. Taking an isolated incident and broad brushing an entire company classic smear campaign
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Exactly...kinda like saying two employee were caught with meth so fire all the employees.
 
Helix said:
Walmart workers need to form a national union. lousy pay, little control over schedule, relying on public assistance to make up the difference, etc. if you don't want your workers to unionize, treat them like human beings.
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Bingo. Especially the bolded part.
 
I like Walmart!

I worked there years ago. I was a cashier and made $10.25 an hour. IT WAS A TRANSITIONAL JOB!
They treated their employees just fine.

This experience allows me to have a connection with current employees. Almost always, I will make small talk with the employees when shopping there.
Every employee that I have talked to DOES NOT want to be a part of a union. They understand the true value of the low-skilled services they provide to WM.

Unless you are pursuing management, you should know that you are not going to get rich working at WM. These jobs are jobs for the young just starting out, transitional employees like I was, the senior citizens who need to supplement their incomes and those who chose not to learn a trade.

If a person thinks that their labor practices are unfair, they should not work there!
 
Helix said:
Walmart workers need to form a national union. lousy pay, little control over schedule, relying on public assistance to make up the difference, etc. if you don't want your workers to unionize, treat them like human beings.
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It would seem those who have a better business model would find backing and institute same. Maybe they could persuade all those who enjoy working at Walmart and all the thousands wanting to work at Walmart .... to change employers.

The world is suffering because those 'better business wizards' are obviously greedy self serving and lazy individuals who are just sitting on their respective duffs and refusing to improve the lives of Walmart workers. ( end worthless rhetoric )

A cursory check shows Walmart employee turnover rate is about in line with average retail turnover rate.

Employees always enjoy the freedom to seek employment elsewhere if they do not like work schedules, attire restrictions, remuneration,; or anything else ...they are not indentured.

Thom Paine
 
Helix said:
Walmart workers need to form a national union. lousy pay, little control over schedule, relying on public assistance to make up the difference, etc. if you don't want your workers to unionize, treat them like human beings.
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I briefly worked at Walmart while I was transitioning into retirement. Entrance level pay was minimum wage, but once you got through the probation period the raises started.
When I was hired they asked (on paper) what hours I was willing to work, and they obliged. Never got public assistance while I worked there and as another poster mentioned that this was entry level work for those learning some kind of trade and those who were retired and supplementing their income. Walmart always treated me with respect and I did enjoy my time their.
Not every job has to be a career job, but a person could live with the average wage that Walmart paid. They keep their prices low so the low income and middle class can afford their product.

So, I'm not sure where you're coming from with your post.
 
Thom Paine said:
It would seem those who have a better business model would find backing and institute same. Maybe they could persuade all those who enjoy working at Walmart and all the thousands wanting to work at Walmart .... to change employers.

The world is suffering because those 'better business wizards' are obviously greedy self serving and lazy individuals who are just sitting on their respective duffs and refusing to improve the lives of Walmart workers. ( end worthless rhetoric )

A cursory check shows Walmart employee turnover rate is about in line with average retail turnover rate.

Employees always enjoy the freedom to seek employment elsewhere if they do not like work schedules, attire restrictions, remuneration,; or anything else ...they are not indentured.

Thom Paine
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they also have the freedom to organize in order to sell their labor at a better price.
 
Meister said:
I briefly worked at Walmart while I was transitioning into retirement. Entrance level pay was minimum wage, but once you got through the probation period the raises started.
When I was hired they asked (on paper) what hours I was willing to work, and they obliged. Never got public assistance while I worked there and as another poster mentioned that this was entry level work for those learning some kind of trade and those who were retired and supplementing their income. Walmart always treated me with respect and I did enjoy my time their.
Not every job has to be a career job, but a person could live with the average wage that Walmart paid. They keep their prices low so the low income and middle class can afford their product.

So, I'm not sure where you're coming from with your post.
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the person i knew who worked there was treated poorly enough that i stopped shopping there. also, i'm not comfortable with the level of control that they have on their supply chain. finally, areas where there is no Walmart tend to have more bustling downtown districts and independent shops. the big one for me, though, was seeing someone get vastly underpaid with little control over her schedule. she ended up quitting and working her way up a food service chain instead. good move.
 
twixie1 said:
Yes that's true..it get's even more amusing..

''Where this could hurt the company is in its reputation of not being a great place to work''...:naughty
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Nice sidestep.
 
Helix said:
the person i knew who worked there was treated poorly enough that i stopped shopping there. also, i'm not comfortable with the level of control that they have on their supply chain. finally, areas where there is no Walmart tend to have more bustling downtown districts and independent shops. the big one for me, though, was seeing someone get vastly underpaid with little control over her schedule. she ended up quitting and working her way up a food service chain instead. good move.
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For myself and having worked there, it was an entirely different experience.
Walmart hires a lot of people in the areas where they open stores and willingly open stores that are in depressed areas.
 
Meister said:
For myself and having worked there, it was an entirely different experience.
Walmart hires a lot of people in the areas where they open stores and willingly open stores that are in depressed areas.
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don't get me wrong, i don't think that the company is evil. i just think the workers should organize so that they can get better working conditions and more opportunities for raises and promotion.
 
Helix said:
they also have the freedom to organize in order to sell their labor at a better price.
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Yes, they do. Apparently though it is not a pressing need for the majority of employees for whatever the reason. It seems only more important to Unions and those not employed by Walmart.

I've always wondered how many Union proponents are actual Union members.

Kroger does not pay what the Union wants Walmart to pay.. but if successful, it would allow a push against Kroger to increase wages... who would that benefit and for how long after all other wages were proportionally increased ? No one. All costs would increase without increased benefit.

Seems a waste save for the smoke and mirror effects applicators. .. If you get my meaning.

Great day to ya' H

Thom Paine
 
Thom Paine said:
Yes, they do. Apparently though it is not a pressing need for the majority of employees for whatever the reason. It seems only more important to Unions and those not employed by Walmart.

I've always wondered how many Union proponents are actual Union members.
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i was a member of UAW for sixty days about fifteen years ago. then the warehouse fired a bunch of us on the last day of our probationary period and brought in temps. union tried to fight it; there was nothing they could do, though.

Thom Paine said:
Kroger does not pay what the Union wants Walmart to pay.. but if successful, it would allow a push against Kroger to increase wages... who would that benefit and for how long after all other wages were proportionally increased ? No one. All costs would increase without increased benefit.

Seems a waste save for the smoke and mirror effects applicators. .. If you get my meaning.

Great day to ya' H

Thom Paine
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if i were to organize Walmart workers, my demands wouldn't include base pay. i'd ask for better control over schedules and more opportunity for promotion and raises.
 
Helix said:
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if i were to organize Walmart workers, my demands wouldn't include base pay. i'd ask for better control over schedules and more opportunity for promotion and raises.
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Interesting, Allowing employee influence over scheduling would be a management catastrophe... but I did look into promotions a little. It seems almost all, a very high percentage, of Walmart management come from inside the existing organization.

To me, it appears a union is trying to resurrect itself by beating a dead horse... same with fast food organization.

Ahhh well, it's not up to me.

Thom Paine
 
Thom Paine said:
:roll::doh

Walmart should close those stores and leave town...

As an employer I retain the authority to dictate employee attire during work periods.
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I would. It would be the next in a long string of businesses that have determined California is too messy to do business in. Perhaps the union could hire all of those unemployed people to protest there being no employers, or available goods and services.
 
ludin said:
get a better education get better job training, get certified in something then you don't have to worry about it.
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Oh, and the jobs go away? Or do they just get filled by someone else that they pay and treat like ****?
 
A Wal-Mart employee can get by with a second job, however it's near impossible to take a second job when Walmart changes the employees schedules from week to week, which is a strategic move on Walmart's part. If an employee is working two jobs, adding up to full time hours, that employee doesn't need supplemental welfare and Walmart is no longer a consumer of Taxpayer supported aid. They know exactly what they're doing keeping their employees in the poorhouse.
 
whysoserious said:
Oh, and the jobs go away? Or do they just get filled by someone else that they pay and treat like ****?
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yes because we all know that walmart forces people to work for them.:roll:
 
HenryChinaski said:
A Wal-Mart employee can get by with a second job, however it's near impossible to take a second job when Walmart changes the employees schedules from week to week, which is a strategic move on Walmart's part. If an employee is working two jobs, adding up to full time hours, that employee doesn't need supplemental welfare and Walmart is no longer a consumer of Taxpayer supported aid. They know exactly what they're doing keeping their employees in the poorhouse.
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the average pay at walmart is around 10-13 bucks an hour.
if you want to make more money then get a better education.
 
HenryChinaski said:
A Wal-Mart employee can get by with a second job, however it's near impossible to take a second job when Walmart changes the employees schedules from week to week, which is a strategic move on Walmart's part. If an employee is working two jobs, adding up to full time hours, that employee doesn't need supplemental welfare and Walmart is no longer a consumer of Taxpayer supported aid. They know exactly what they're doing keeping their employees in the poorhouse.
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See highlighted above

Could you elaborate the specifics on exactly how that works ?? Is there any math available to show that?

I wonder how the welfare stats and expenditures would look if Walmart was not employing people.

Jus' thinkin'

Thom Paine
 
Thom Paine said:
:roll::doh

Walmart should close those stores and leave town...

As an employer I retain the authority to dictate employee attire during work periods.
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And employees have the right to organize and collectively negotiate such things if the employees don't like such dictates. Employers have no more right to a work force than workers have a right to jobs. IMO it works out best when neither side has the power to dictate to the other.
 
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