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Walmart Threatened Workers For Trying To Organize, Judge Rules

Helix said:
yes, if slightly increased prices result in more opportunity for the worker.
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Soooo, forcing the poor to pay more helps them? Oooooo-kay.
 
Helix said:
are you a laborer?
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I usually work alone, so I am both laborer and skilled tradesman. But I have been a laborer.

Besides, what does that have to do with my question?
 
countryboy said:
Do higher prices help the little guy, and the poor? Yes, or no.
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Probably not..it would help ''Walmart'' though..the little guys would never get to see a cent..

And higher prices??..People shop at Walmart because it's cheap..if the prices were raised..Goodbye Walmart..

There will always be someone cheaper...This is happening a lot in the UK..German companies..Lidl and Aldi..are undercutting our national supermarkets...the quality is superb..and for half the price..
 
Helix said:
do you work hard for your employer?
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I am my employer, but what does that have to do with my original question? What is this, twenty questions?
 
twixie1 said:
Probably not..it would help ''Walmart'' though..the little guys would never get to see a cent..

And higher prices??..People shop at Walmart because it's cheap..if the prices were raised..Goodbye Walmart..

There will always be someone cheaper...This is happening a lot in the UK..German companies..Lidl and Aldi..are undercutting our national supermarkets...the quality is superb..and for half the price..
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Superb quality at half the price helps everyone--rich and poor alike.
 
Helix said:
there should be a way to move up the ranks, much like in the military. not everyone in the military is a general, but not everyone is a private, either. if i were running the union, that's what i'd ask for instead of unrealistically high base pay.
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There is.

I myself started as a part time hourly associate. Working less than 32 hours a week, every Saturday and Sunday and evenings. After a year and a half I was made full time, after three years I was promoted to an Hourly Supervisor position and promoted again to a more responsible hourly supervisor position three years after that. Each promotion had a decent pay raise attached to it and my yearly pay raise was not bad either.

The opportunity to move into salaried management is always there. For those that come to work when scheduled, work hard while there and are always trying to learn more about the job.

You will find that most of the folks complaining about WalMart are the ones who think they shouldn't have to do anything while they are "at work". They should be able to take as many "smoke breaks" as they desire, and that last as long as they want them to.
 
countryboy said:
I am my employer, but what does that have to do with my original question? What is this, twenty questions?
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the point is that if you give your employees ample opportunity for promotions and raises, they will be better and more loyal employees. this is what a union should ask for instead of an unrealistically high base pay.
 
Rentoc said:
There is.

I myself started as a part time hourly associate. Working less than 32 hours a week, every Saturday and Sunday and evenings. After a year and a half I was made full time, after three years I was promoted to an Hourly Supervisor position and promoted again to a more responsible hourly supervisor position three years after that. Each promotion had a decent pay raise attached to it and my yearly pay raise was not bad either.

The opportunity to move into salaried management is always there. For those that come to work when scheduled, work hard while there and are always trying to learn more about the job.

You will find that most of the folks complaining about WalMart are the ones who think they shouldn't have to do anything while they are "at work". They should be able to take as many "smoke breaks" as they desire, and that last as long as they want them to.
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i'm for increasing access to upward mobility. and if you consider me to be someone "complaining about walmart," i don't fall under your definition.
 
twixie1 said:
Probably not..it would help ''Walmart'' though..the little guys would never get to see a cent..

And higher prices??..People shop at Walmart because it's cheap..if the prices were raised..Goodbye Walmart..

There will always be someone cheaper...This is happening a lot in the UK..German companies..Lidl and Aldi..are undercutting our national supermarkets...the quality is superb..and for half the price..
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We have Aldi in the US. I would not say that the quality of everything they sell is superb, but they do have good condiments and cheese and dairy products. Their canned food is mostly a miss and their veg is very limited.
 
Helix said:
the point is that if you give your employees ample opportunity for promotions and raises, they will be better and more loyal employees. this is what a union should ask for instead of an unrealistically high base pay.
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A union is not required to do such. And besides, Walmart already does that. My question was, "Loyal in what way? Simply by virtue of showing up?" Remember? Are you capable of answering a simple question?
 
Declan said:
We have Aldi in the US. I would not say that the quality of everything they sell is superb, but they do have good condiments and cheese and dairy products. Their canned food is mostly a miss and their veg is very limited.
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Around here, it's mostly the customers speaking German. The Amish shop at Aldi's by the passenger van load. :mrgreen:
 
ludin said:
here is a less bias article than the huffpo.

Wal-Mart managers illegally threatened, intimidated Calif. workers, NLRB judge rules (Video) - Philadelphia Business Journal

one these workers are not unionized. they did an illegal strike on walmart and should have been fired.
2. walmart has the right to restrict clothing apparel. in fact every company I have ever worked for has had dress code requirements.

it is appealing the decision and they should.
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Indeed, and sorry, I am a bit late to the discussion and this may have been said already.
This is what is important to keep in mind.
Were these employees scheduled to work? If so, and they didn't show up and protested instead, they failed in their commitment, not the other way around.
Does WM have a dress code to adhere to? If so, it should be observed. If not, and WM makes it up as they go, it is in the employees right to wear what they wish, although common sense should still prevail.

What we also must keep in mind in this economic climate is that for every disgruntled employee who seeks higher wages, there will be others who will gladly take their place.
Of, course we all wish that everyone could make a decent living, based on their qualifications, but we must also face reality.
If a business is forced to pay higher wages, it will pass the cost onto the consumer and will seek other alternatives, like automation where feasible.
 
countryboy said:
A union is not required to do such. And besides, Walmart already does that. My question was, "Loyal in what way? Simply by virtue of showing up?" Remember? Are you capable of answering a simple question?
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do you really need me to define "loyal" for you? hard work should be rewarded with opportunity. if you're running a business, you want people like that to keep working for you.
 
Helix said:
i'm for increasing access to upward mobility. and if you consider me to be someone "complaining about walmart," i don't fall under your definition.
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was just answering a question about upward mobility
 
Helix said:
do you really need me to define "loyal" for you? hard work should be rewarded with opportunity. if you're running a business, you want people like that to keep working for you.
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Yes, I do. Because the lib definition of many words is often different than the actual, normal definition. What exactly do you mean by "loyal"? Please be specific.
 
Declan said:
We have Aldi in the US. I would not say that the quality of everything they sell is superb, but they do have good condiments and cheese and dairy products. Their canned food is mostly a miss and their veg is very limited.
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Maybe it is just getting going...we have a giant store here..yes I agree there is a lot of foreign stuff..I wouldn't go there to buy tinned goods...But..French cheeses..German wines..Ok..the veggies are a bit near their sell by dates..I bought truffle oil for a £1..a whole ham on the bone for £15..You have to be selective..I went into a German Aldi in Koblenz..WOW!!!
 
countryboy said:
Around here, it's mostly the customers speaking German. The Amish shop at Aldi's by the passenger van load. :mrgreen:
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Interesting. We have Amish stores in our area, but I am not sure where they actually shop at. Most of them seem to either get staples shipped from PA or grow their own. I very seldom see them in grocery stores (they are really Mennonites but call themselves Amish because it seems to make people want to shop at their stores).
 
Helix said:
do you really need me to define "loyal" for you? hard work should be rewarded with opportunity. if you're running a business, you want people like that to keep working for you.
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Did you miss post #234? It seems that Walmart, like any other employer, does reward its "loyal" employees.
 
Declan said:
Interesting. We have Amish stores in our area, but I am not sure where they actually shop at. Most of them seem to either get staples shipped from PA or grow their own. I very seldom see them in grocery stores (they are really Mennonites but call themselves Amish because it seems to make people want to shop at their stores).
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The Amish also shop at Walmart in droves, around here. Took this pic in the summer of 2013 at a Walmart in Massillon, Ohio. :mrgreen: This is a little unusual, as I said, they usually hire passenger vans to take them shopping.

Looks like he stopped at Lowe's first, there is one in the same strip mall. :D

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twixie1 said:
Maybe it is just getting going...we have a giant store here..yes I agree there is a lot of foreign stuff..I wouldn't go there to buy tinned goods...But..French cheeses..German wines..Ok..the veggies are a bit near their sell by dates..I bought truffle oil for a £1..a whole ham on the bone for £15..You have to be selective..I went into a German Aldi in Koblenz..WOW!!!
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I think Giant in the US is overpriced. Aldi does a lot of business in my city, but it is a small store and things often are not in the same place they were last time so it gets a little cramped with everybody clogging up the same areas. It is all relative to your experience I guess. When I had friends come from New York City they were blown away by how large and open all the grocery stores are in my city. When I took them to a superwalmart they about pooted their pants.
 
countryboy said:
The Amish also shop at Walmart in droves, around here. Took this pic in the summer of 2013 at a Walmart in Massillon, Ohio. :mrgreen: This is a little unusual, as I said, they usually hire passenger vans to take them shopping.

Looks like he stopped at Lowe's first, there is one in the same strip mall. :D

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That would be weird to see. They don't do horses and buggies in my area but they do have those big econoliner type passenger vans they all pile into.
 
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