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Police Detain Michigan Man on Thanksgiving for ‘Walking with Hands in Pockets’

Pontiac version of Stop and Frisk minus the Frisk.
Somebody posted in another thread a graphic with all the so-called black organisations like the NAACP that exist and asking why there are none for whites.
Maybe the person asking the questions should try to live in a black person's skin for a day.
 
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Police Detain Michigan Man on Thanksgiving for ‘Walking with Hands in Pockets’

Pontiac version of Stop and Frisk minus the Frisk.
Somebody posted in another thread a graphic with all the so-called black organisations like the NAACP that exist and asking why there are none for whites.
Maybe the person asking the questions should try to live in a black person's skin for a day.


The stops like this happen usually over suspicious people. Or someone they run into a lot. Not saying it is justified or should be legal, but being a cop in this day and age is frustrating. You see a lot of the same scumbags get away with BS day in and day out and can't actually get them on something. So cops resort to this crap.

Honestly if we were able to better support law enforcement (by getting better cops, better training, better laws, getting rid of the "anti snitch" mentality, and all that jazz) we could probably cut back on a lot of the civil rights violation bull**** so that cops can spend time ACTUALLY putting bad people in jail.
 
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I walk every day where I live, even if it is -40 outside. I've done cold weather training, so I don't mind it. Last winter I was stopped 6 times when I was walking with Bosco (R.I.P. Bubba) by the local and state police.
 
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I've got to believe that there's more to this story. Nobody - and I mean NOBODY - calls the cops just because someone has their hands in their own pockets on a cold day.

This thing just screams "agenda".
 
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I would agree. People like the person who made the video are only looking for a reaction from the police. This was obviously staged, and the person wanted to get into a confrontation with an officer so that they can have their 5 minutes of fame. I do agree with the basic premise that cops should not be stopping people for simply walking around with their hands in their pockets, that is not what occurred in this video. A concerned citizen made the call because they saw a stranger probably walking around suspiciously in their neighborhood. The cop did not initiate the stop, a citizen who called in did. The person in the video should not be upset with the cop for simply following orders by a dispatcher to check out suspicious activity. Could you imagine if cops were no longer allowed to respond to calls where people have called in suspicious activity? Then we would be blaming cops for not responding to a citizen making an observation of suspicious activity. What if someone had called in that they noticed some people walking around with suspiciously large backpacks on a crowded sidewalk who seem out of place. The police don't respond, and those suspicious people were carrying explosives in their backpacks that kill several people at the event. We would be outraged!!! And we would be calling for the firing of the dispatcher, and the people in charge of making the decision not to respond to suspicious activity. I think that is small potato's in comparission to the slight some people may feel when being asked what their doing by a police officer, even if they are not doing anything at all illegal.
 
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I've got to believe that there's more to this story. Nobody - and I mean NOBODY - calls the cops just because someone has their hands in their own pockets on a cold day.

This thing just screams "agenda".

The officer says it in the video, man.
 
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The officer says it in the video, man.

Yeah.

But I still have concerns when the source is a "newspaper" that has sections such as "Police State" and "Activism". http://pontiactribune.com/police-detain-man-for-walking-with-hands-in-pockets/

When the sole article in their "Economy" section is The Revolution Starts Within You - Pontiac Tribune and their "Politics" section includes a 9/11 truther article I really, really have to take anything they present with a grain or two of salt.
 
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The officer says it in the video, man.

Yeah.

But I still have concerns when the source is a "newspaper" that has sections such as "Police State" and "Activism". Police Detain Michigan Man on Thanksgiving for ‘Walking with Hands in Pockets’ [Video] - Pontiac Tribune

When the sole article in their "Economy" section is The Revolution Starts Within You - Pontiac Tribune and their "Politics" section includes a 9/11 truther article I really, really have to take anything they present with a grain or two of salt.
 
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Yeah.

But I still have concerns when the source is a "newspaper" that has sections such as "Police State" and "Activism". Police Detain Michigan Man on Thanksgiving for ‘Walking with Hands in Pockets’ [Video] - Pontiac Tribune

When the sole article in their "Economy" section is The Revolution Starts Within You - Pontiac Tribune and their "Politics" section includes a 9/11 truther article I really, really have to take anything they present with a grain or two of salt.

Do you think they edited the video or something?
 
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Is there more to this? I mean...from what i gather, there was a call from dispatch to check out a complaint, the officer checked it out...and....the end? Cop did his job, politely, respectfully...and life goes on.

If anything maybe there should be upset at whoever called the cops.

Now...if there was in fact no call...then that is a completely different circumstance.
 
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I walk every day where I live, even if it is -40 outside. I've done cold weather training, so I don't mind it. Last winter I was stopped 6 times when I was walking with Bosco (R.I.P. Bubba) by the local and state police.
I used to get stopped almost weekly when I was in the military. Working graves, there was no place to eat at night so invariably between 1-3 AM you would have to drive off base to find someplace. Coincidentally, 1-3 AM is the busiest time for cops to pull people over DUI. It was annoying, but it was routine. Get pulled over, have the cop put his face in front of your face to check for alcohol, give some warning on some bull**** reason for pulling you over in the first place, and carry on.
 
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I used to get stopped almost weekly when I was in the military. Working graves, there was no place to eat at night so invariably between 1-3 AM you would have to drive off base to find someplace. Coincidentally, 1-3 AM is the busiest time for cops to pull people over DUI. It was annoying, but it was routine. Get pulled over, have the cop put his face in front of your face to check for alcohol, give some warning on some bull**** reason for pulling you over in the first place, and carry on.

Yeah, pretty much the same for me, minus the DUI checking, that is. They just ask me, "What are you doing?" as I'm holding the leash to my GSD no less :lol:
 
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I would agree. People like the person who made the video are only looking for a reaction from the police. This was obviously staged...

Why do you post stupid **** like this. It only makes you look like a dumbass.
 
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Police Detain Michigan Man on Thanksgiving for ‘Walking with Hands in Pockets’

Pontiac version of Stop and Frisk minus the Frisk.
Somebody posted in another thread a graphic with all the so-called black organisations like the NAACP that exist and asking why there are none for whites.
Maybe the person asking the questions should try to live in a black person's skin for a day.




Simply stupid.

A stupid, moronic response by a single digit IQ with a gun to a complaint by paranoid folk that shouldn't have even drawn a response. This says more about the people of Pontiac than the state of policing.

And, again, it is not said but we all know Pontiac is predominantly upper middle class white people, and this man, it would seem from his accent, is African-American. I know no one there would call the cops if it were me walking with my hands in pockets....on a hot day.
 
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To me...it looks like an add for the iPhone.....
 
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Do you think they edited the video or something?

I don't have any reason to believe that the video is edited but the clip shown lacks additional context. For example, we don't know if the cop came up and said "Excuse me sir. I'd like to ask you a question" or whether he said "Get on your knees mother****er or I'm going to blow your head off!"
 
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Do you think they edited the video or something?

No, but they fail to recognize that the video doesn't tell the whole story here. That officer was responding to suspicious person complaints in the area, an area it's suggested there are a lot of home robberies. Was the officer supposed to refuse the call?
 
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No, but they fail to recognize that the video doesn't tell the whole story here. That officer was responding to suspicious person complaints in the area, an area it's suggested there are a lot of home robberies. Was the officer supposed to refuse the call?

The officer said he was responding to calls of worry about the man walking with his hands in his pockets. End of story.
 
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I don't have any reason to believe that the video is edited but the clip shown lacks additional context. For example, we don't know if the cop came up and said "Excuse me sir. I'd like to ask you a question" or whether he said "Get on your knees mother****er or I'm going to blow your head off!"

Judging by the video, it clearly was not the latter.
 
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Judging by the video, it clearly was not the latter.

No, it wasn't. However, if one only looks at the response of the detainee it may as well have been.
 
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Why do you post stupid **** like this. It only makes you look like a dumbass.

How about trying to actually make a reasonable argument against what I said. Nope, don't have the ability to do that, so then just call me a dumbass. The last time I called someone a dumbass I got a warning from the mods.. But I guess since you are not me, you will probably get away with it.
 
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How about trying to actually make a reasonable argument against what I said. Nope, don't have the ability to do that, so then just call me a dumbass. The last time I called someone a dumbass I got a warning from the mods.. But I guess since you are not me, you will probably get away with it.

I did not call you anything. I said your comment is something I would expect a dumbass to say, not someone like you who is able to express himself. I know because I have read many of your postings; you are much smarter than this.
 
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I don't have any reason to believe that the video is edited but the clip shown lacks additional context.
OK then, look for the context.

A business owner claims that an individual was repeatedly walking past his store at 4:30 PM on Thanksgiving, looking in the windows, etc. His business was frequently robbed numerous times. The cop told a white lie about the reason for the stop.

911 call: Firm owner feared man in Pontiac police stop


For example, we don't know if the cop came up and said "Excuse me sir. I'd like to ask you a question" or whether he said "Get on your knees mother****er or I'm going to blow your head off!"
Errrrr... wha?!?

It seems pretty clear that the cop in this video was being polite, and was not being aggressive or hostile. In fact, I'd say he was very calm, given how the citizen was obviously upset over being stopped. The encounter ended with a high-five. There's no real reason to criticize the officer.

The citizen wasn't accusing the officer of misconduct. He was outraged that someone called the cops, and that the reason for suspicion was that he was "walking around with his hands in his pockets." That's an absurd reason. At least "we got a 911 call about a suspicious person casing a store" makes sense.
 
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OK then, look for the context.

A business owner claims that an individual was repeatedly walking past his store at 4:30 PM on Thanksgiving, looking in the windows, etc. His business was frequently robbed numerous times. The cop told a white lie about the reason for the stop.

911 call: Firm owner feared man in Pontiac police stop



Errrrr... wha?!?

It seems pretty clear that the cop in this video was being polite, and was not being aggressive or hostile. In fact, I'd say he was very calm, given how the citizen was obviously upset over being stopped. The encounter ended with a high-five. There's no real reason to criticize the officer.

The citizen wasn't accusing the officer of misconduct. He was outraged that someone called the cops, and that the reason for suspicion was that he was "walking around with his hands in his pockets." That's an absurd reason. At least "we got a 911 call about a suspicious person casing a store" makes sense.

And it also makes sense that the cop wouldn't say anything about that due to the possibility of retribution by the suspect.

It was a good stop and the suspect made it into something it wasn't by posting his video. The media and social media then exploded the situation by judging the situation on incomplete information presented in a way SPECIFICALLY to "prove" bias.

On the whole this seems to be nothing more than a black "activist" stirring up **** just to get his youtube video to go viral. It's no different than the guy walking down the street with an AK slung across his chest then claiming to be "harassed" by the cops.
 
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And it also makes sense that the cop wouldn't say anything about that due to the possibility of retribution by the suspect.
I don't know actual police policy or the psychology of these kinds of situations. What I can say is that I am not surprised by the citizen's subsequent reaction.


It was a good stop and the suspect made it into something it wasn't by posting his video.
Did he? Really?

He's not a mind reader, and apparently he wasn't walking around with a police scanner. The only thing he had to go on was what the officer told him, and "having your hands in your pockets" is an absurd reason to suspect anyone.


The media and social media then exploded the situation by judging the situation on incomplete information presented in a way SPECIFICALLY to "prove" bias.
Amusingly enough, the police also used social media to give a fuller background.

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=892284980805860

Numerous media reports have also given the PD's side of things.


On the whole this seems to be nothing more than a black "activist" stirring up **** just to get his youtube video to go viral.
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C'mon, man. The guy was doing nothing, got stopped by the police, found the reason for the stop to be absurd, and posted it on Youtube.

Video cameras are all but ubiquitous, and more people are filming their encounters with the police. When they do something improper -- or just absurd -- they're going to get called on it. IMO this is a good thing, as it is likely to curb police abuse, without actually preventing them from doing their jobs.


It's no different than the guy walking down the street with an AK slung across his chest then claiming to be "harassed" by the cops.
?!?!?

The guy wasn't walking around with an AK-47. He wasn't armed. No one had any reason to think he was armed. He was just walking around, with his hands in his pockets.

If walking around on a cold day with your hands in your pockets is a valid reason for suspicion, then I should've been stopped by the police at least twice a day, every day, for the past month. Care to guess if that's the case...?
 
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