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Reporter Suspended For Defending Evolution Comes Back, Gives Immediate Middle Finger

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And if I still believe the God of the Bible is the Creator, what would you say about my beliefs?

It depends on how those beliefs manifest themselves.

Do I believe that evolution puts the story of creation in Genesis in massive doubt, absolutely.

Does your belief in the god of Abraham force you to deny evolution which is clear and irrefutable fact?

if the answer is yes to that question, then I don't know what to tell you.

It's not gonna kill you, it's not gonna hurt you not to believe in evolution or doubt it's authenticity.

But as a human being, as a curious, knowledge seeking human being, to deny evolution is to deny the universe around you, to deny the very reason why things exist as you see them and if there is a creator, it pushes you farther away from that deity should it exist.

That's why we study physics, that's why we study biology, that's why we study chemistry, it's not to make someone feel bad about their beliefs, it's not to try to force you to believe something that isn't true, it's to get closer to understanding the universe and why it is the way it is.
 
Re: Reporter Suspended For Defending Evolution Comes Back, Gives Immediate Middle Fin

It depends on how those beliefs manifest themselves.

Do I believe that evolution puts the story of creation in Genesis in massive doubt, absolutely.

Does your belief in the god of Abraham force you to deny evolution which is clear and irrefutable fact?

if the answer is yes to that question, then I don't know what to tell you.

It's not gonna kill you, it's not gonna hurt you not to believe in evolution or doubt it's authenticity.

But as a human being, as a curious, knowledge seeking human being, to deny evolution is to deny the universe around you, to deny the very reason why things exist as you see them and if there is a creator, it pushes you farther away from that deity should it exist.

That's why we study physics, that's why we study biology, that's why we study chemistry, it's not to make someone feel bad about their beliefs, it's not to try to force you to believe something that isn't true, it's to get closer to understanding the universe and why it is the way it is.

... Well not in massive doubt... it debunks most of the creation story.

- We know how stars are formed.
- We know how planets are formed.
- We have evidence of the creation story floating around in civilizations from the mediterranean long before the Hebrews got a hold of it.
- We know the sheer genetic diversity in the animal kingdom would have made creating some animals borderline redundant
- We know where human beings came from and we have established our genetic similarities with other species.

Evolution is just one aspect of the puzzle. What people fail to realize is that there are a myriad of other disciplines which have - in a mostly uncoordinated fashion - cracked away at the foundations of books which make sweeping claims about the world's creation. What the religious can now rely on is basic allegory and some of the few parts of their books which are written down accurately. However that still leaves massive holes that can only be covered up through god of the gaps logic and revising the meaning of some events.
 
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I'm trying to think of someone I'd trust least to stand up for Christianity.* Please don't do us any favors. Most Christians do believe that God is the creator and you've just said it yourself, creationist = stupid.

The thing is, if you think believing God is the creator is stupid, what other Christian beliefs must you believe stupid? Any problem with the virgin birth? All the miracles Jesus performed? Walking on water? Calming a storm? The Resurrection?

How many times have I heard Jesus referred to as a zombie? To claim there is no atheist antagonism toward Christianity might be the funniest thing I've seen. I am curious about why you all just don't want to own it. Surely the thoughts and opinions of any believer can't matter to you.

Edit: *ok, Hatuey's in the thread. There is someone I would trust less. :lol:

Post one quote where someone said "there is no atheist antagonism toward Christianity" or just can it and leave the thread already. You've lied in pretty much every post you've made here. What would Jesus say about that?
 
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I'm trying to think of someone I'd trust least to stand up for Christianity.* Please don't do us any favors. Most Christians do believe that God is the creator and you've just said it yourself, creationist = stupid.

The thing is, if you think believing God is the creator is stupid, what other Christian beliefs must you believe stupid? Any problem with the virgin birth? All the miracles Jesus performed? Walking on water? Calming a storm? The Resurrection?

How many times have I heard Jesus referred to as a zombie? To claim there is no atheist antagonism toward Christianity might be the funniest thing I've seen. I am curious about why you all just don't want to own it. Surely the thoughts and opinions of any believer can't matter to you.

Edit: *ok, Hatuey's in the thread. There is someone I would trust less. :lol:

I am no longer religious, but I grew up Catholic and my wife and I were active members of a local Episcopal parish for years.

The following denominations accept theistic evolution and are not literal creationists:

Roman Catholicism
Orthodox Christianity
Anglicans (including Episcopalians)
Methodists
Presbyterians
Most Lutheran Denominations
Church of Christ
Amercian Baptists
Reformed Christians
Congregationalists

And several others.

The only denominations that are creationists are:

Most Southern Baptist Churches
Missionary Baptists
Primitive Baptists
Most Independent Baptists

The Evangelical Free Churches (non-denominational fundamentalist evangelicals)
Some of the Nazarenes
Pentacostals
Assemby of God

and various fundamentalist / charismatic groups.

These groups all together don't even make up a third of worldwide Christendom.

As to the notion that a there are atheists that are antagonistic to Christianity, sure, of course there are. However, that has nothing to do with modern science being incompatible with fundamentalist religious beliefs.
 
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I don't agree with the one guy being suspended but what, exactly, made Schilling a moron for expressing his views on Twitter (other than that you disagree with him)?

Expressing moron views does tend to out someone as being a moron.
 
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Well, yeah, expressing views that ask questions that have long since been answered. He asked why there are still monkeys... that's a stupid question. He should read about evolution before he opens his damn mouth on the subject.s

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Deuce said:
Literal Young Earth Creationism, as OC puts it, does require stupidity, ignorance, or both. (and I stress that ignorance and stupidity aren't the same thing. some people believe in YEC because they were raised that way and just haven't really been exposed to the reality of the situation)
X Factor said:
With God, all things are possible. Now, tell me how stupid/ignorant you think I am for believing that.
So while Dishonstly Deflecting virtually EVERY question put to you, You answer the the Third Party instead and saying "IF I Believe that do you think I'm crazy/Stupid?".
You never admit you hold these outrageously Ignorant beliefs and do not defend them because you CANNOT and are embarrassed admit you do indeedy hold these Backward creationist /Anti-evolution views.

And saying "with God" (or Tooth-fairy/FSM) "all things are possible" is just admitting you are Suspending reason and now 2+2 can be 34,657.


X Factor to Deuce 2... of many said:
So you gonna call that out as well? You didn't answer that.

Look, according to Genesis, God created Adam from dust and Eve from Adam's rib.

You'd find anyone who believed that Stupid/ignorant, right?
I really just want you to say what you want to say.
Just let the words fall out.
Honestly, I want to see you be brave.
Here you do it again.
You NEVER admit you hold this wacky ANTI-evolution view, but Infer it and want someone to Insult you for it to take offense or even coax a Violation.

In my response to you on pg 1 where I Bust you Bogus quote, you have NO real response to Being Caught with said quote, NOR to Conklin's actual view I quoted.

Then, for another among Many More (ALL in fact), Donald explains to you evolution IS settled/a fact and you DISHONESTLY duck answering directly again! !
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donsutherland said:
With all the evidence from fossils to insights from DNA analysis--not just for humans but all living organisms--the case for evolution is so overwhelming that it is essentially a settled matter in science. Not every detail along the path of evolution is known, but the notion that humans evolved into their present species (and are still evolving today with certain genes under selection) is overwhelmingly supported by scientific evidence. It is also improbable that humans would have been the single static life form that never evolved (refuted by the reality that they continue to evolve based on genes under selection).
Do you think believing in a creator makes one a Moron?

So instead of debating THE issue, you DISHONESTLY and Emptily KEEP trying to get people to call you a Moron/insult you and get-Offended-and walk-away, or even infract others out.

But everyone gets your EMPTY game and no one has done it.. while you Dishonestly can't even touch evolution,
or even elucidate Your own view!
It's been a Transparent and outrageously Obtuse/Juvenile game.
 
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All I can say is, if you think this is a Museum of Natural History, then you are indeed an idiot.

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Of course, blocking everyone who disagrees with you is a perfectly reasonable and classy response

Curt Schilling Stunned By "Anger, Hatred" From "Atheists/Liberals"

He needn't have bothered. Facebook's algorithms* learn from your likes and dislikes, and who you block, and eventually prevents updates from anyone with differing political and religious views from appearing on your main feed.




*Please don't ask me what an "algorithm" is. I saw Social Network a couple years ago and learned that Facebook runs on microscopic robots called "algorithms."
 
Re: Reporter Suspended For Defending Evolution Comes Back, Gives Immediate Middle Fin

He needn't have bothered. Facebook's algorithms* learn from your likes and dislikes, and who you block, and eventually prevents updates from anyone with differing political and religious views from appearing on your main feed.




*Please don't ask me what an "algorithm" is. I saw Social Network a couple years ago and learned that Facebook runs on microscopic robots called "algorithms."

I get plenty of opposing views in my feed. I like it that way.
 
Re: Reporter Suspended For Defending Evolution Comes Back, Gives Immediate Middle Fin

What does what you wrote have to do with anything?

Trust me, no one is hurt by anything you do...LOL

You are the one bragging about your diplomas, and if you are a creationist, then those diplomas aren't worth the breakfast cereal boxes they were printed on.

What? You can't seem to get that this event had nothing whatsoever to do with creation v evolution. Just one idiot too full of himself and putting down another coworker on a public forum. That is why the moron got suspended.

Try to get it through your skull, I'm not supporting what Schilling said. Just pointing out the moron's suspension had nothing to do with that. It was entirely down to his behavior, which was that of your standard dick.

Did I post anything pro or con about creation or evolution? But hey, why would I expect you to comprehend what you read.
 
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And if I still believe the God of the Bible is the Creator, what would you say about my beliefs?

If you believe the earth is only about 6000 years old, you believe something that is factually inaccurate.

Evolution isn't incompatible with religion. Evolution is incompatible with some peoples' interpretation of some religions.

You keep lashing out at any perceived sleight, but let's turn this flashlight back on you. What do you think? If someone believes the earth is flat because God says it's flat in the bible, do you think they are dumb?
 
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i hate the fact that i'm forced to buy ESPN as part of my cable package. there is no channel on the dial that i have less use for. it's enough to make me seriously consider cutting the cord.
 
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i hate the fact that i'm forced to buy ESPN as part of my cable package. there is no channel on the dial that i have less use for. it's enough to make me seriously consider cutting the cord.

In addition to the wire cutters, make sure you actually call the cable company and tell them, so that they stop sending you bills.
 
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What? You can't seem to get that this event had nothing whatsoever to do with creation v evolution. Just one idiot too full of himself and putting down another coworker on a public forum. That is why the moron got suspended.

Try to get it through your skull, I'm not supporting what Schilling said. Just pointing out the moron's suspension had nothing to do with that. It was entirely down to his behavior, which was that of your standard dick.

Did I post anything pro or con about creation or evolution? But hey, why would I expect you to comprehend what you read.

I get it. But creationists need to be called out, there is enough stupidity in this country.

Yes, I comprehend what I read, no need to make a personal attack.
 
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In addition to the wire cutters, make sure you actually call the cable company and tell them, so that they stop sending you bills.

i watch so few cable programs that it probably isn't even worth having. i'm basically paying a **** ton of money to watch CNN.
 
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I'm trying to think of someone I'd trust least to stand up for Christianity.* Please don't do us any favors. Most Christians do believe that God is the creator and you've just said it yourself, creationist = stupid.

The thing is, if you think believing God is the creator is stupid, what other Christian beliefs must you believe stupid? Any problem with the virgin birth? All the miracles Jesus performed? Walking on water? Calming a storm? The Resurrection?

How many times have I heard Jesus referred to as a zombie? To claim there is no atheist antagonism toward Christianity might be the funniest thing I've seen. I am curious about why you all just don't want to own it. Surely the thoughts and opinions of any believer can't matter to you.

Edit: *ok, Hatuey's in the thread. There is someone I would trust less. :lol:

I have no problem with you wanting to believe all that.

Problem is.....science is about facts, not beliefs.

And there is no room for your dogma, or anyone's dogma in a science classroom.

Virgin birth, miracles, etc.... All you have is a belief that they happened, that may be enough for you, but I need proof, scientific testing, etc.
 
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i watch so few cable programs that it probably isn't even worth having. i'm basically paying a **** ton of money to watch CNN.

Paying any amount of money to watch CNN is a poor decision. They seem to spend half their time relaying what CivicDriver1978 has to say on Twitter or Facebook about current events. If I wanted some dip**** on Twitter's opinion, I'd open my web browser and go to Twitter. You people are reporters. You learn about the thing, and then you tell me about the thing. That's how this is supposed to go. I want to hear what you think about the thing, because you allegedly know more about the thing than I currently do.

Then Fox News tries to one-up them with the entire room full of enormous, unwieldy touchscreens that still only display four twitter posts at a time none of which I wanted to hear about in the first place. Stop outsourcing your ****ing jobs to social media, you ****s. Giant-ass tablets for some high-tech newsroom? Great! How about you use those things to show me some news.

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WHICH MORON AT YOUR COMPANY GREENLIT THIS?
 
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Do you think believing in a creator makes one a moron?

I kinda believe that. No offense.

But I also think that anyone who thinks they are smart enough to rule out a "creator," or some kind of supreme being(s,) is a bigger moron.

So I make popcorn instead.
 
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I kinda believe that. No offense.

But I also think that anyone who thinks they are smart enough to rule out a "creator," or some kind of supreme being(s,) is a bigger moron.

So I make popcorn instead.

No offense taken, I actually appreciate the straight reply. What's funny is people saying, "not all Christians are idiots, just the ones who believe God is the creator."
 
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No offense taken, I actually appreciate the straight reply. What's funny is people saying, "not all Christians are idiots, just the ones who believe God is the creator."

Can you point me to a post that said this?

Because, once again, you are misunderstanding what people say. I'll help you:

Not all Christians are idiots, just the ones who believe in a literal interpretation of Genesis. You can believe God is the creator and also believe that Genesis is metaphorical. Maybe that's the part you're missing: You can't conceive of the idea that the bible isn't literal.
 
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Paying any amount of money to watch CNN is a poor decision. They seem to spend half their time relaying what CivicDriver1978 has to say on Twitter or Facebook about current events. If I wanted some dip**** on Twitter's opinion, I'd open my web browser and go to Twitter. You people are reporters. You learn about the thing, and then you tell me about the thing. That's how this is supposed to go. I want to hear what you think about the thing, because you allegedly know more about the thing than I currently do.

Then Fox News tries to one-up them with the entire room full of enormous, unwieldy touchscreens that still only display four twitter posts at a time none of which I wanted to hear about in the first place. Stop outsourcing your ****ing jobs to social media, you ****s. Giant-ass tablets for some high-tech newsroom? Great! How about you use those things to show me some news.

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WHICH MORON AT YOUR COMPANY GREENLIT THIS?

no kidding. CNN ****ing wasted time on some stupid holographic teleporter during the 2008 presidential race. who ****ing needs that? just tell me who the **** is winning.

i mostly keep it for live coverage of breaking events and election. i would miss having it during election night. it would just be nice if they'd let me choose the ****ing channels i want. i don't want fox, sportsball, shopping channels, or other idiocy.
 
Re: Reporter Suspended For Defending Evolution Comes Back, Gives Immediate Middle Fin

If you believe the earth is only about 6000 years old, you believe something that is factually inaccurate.

Evolution isn't incompatible with religion. Evolution is incompatible with some peoples' interpretation of some religions.

You keep lashing out at any perceived sleight, but let's turn this flashlight back on you. What do you think? If someone believes the earth is flat because God says it's flat in the bible, do you think they are dumb?

Actually no. I don't think someone is a moron or unintelligent for their religious beliefs. Obviously I understand taking things on faith.
 
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