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Walmart Workers Launch Black Friday Strike

Declan said:
How did you get them from cartridge to PC?
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There are plenty of sites online where they've posted the ROMS. Download and play.
 
Declan said:
How did you get them from cartridge to PC?
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Apple IIe was easy as they were on tape or disk. Easy enough to transfer over the years, same with DOS. The console games I did not have to transfer from the cartridge. The cartridge games you just download off the web if you already own the game, it's not illegal as long as you own it. There are a few sites you can download game roms for emulators etc.

PS Also can be obtained at abandonware sites as well.
 
Cephus said:
You mean like the vast majority of fundamentalist Christians on these forums?
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Or like someone who tries to bring up the same lame ass hypocritical anti Christian, crap even though it has nothing to do with the reply? Yea, we know the type.
 
Hatuey said:
Keep trying. Nobody here cares whether you're a heartless bastard or not. It's actually pretty irrelevant. Tell us what they should do? I'll ask one last time before I'm done with this: What do you suggest for people who don't have the option of looking for another job? Are they supposed to allow corporations to abuse them?

Now, if you don't believe they're being abused, that's another matter for you to educate yourself on. Wal-mart and its midlevel management are famous for abusing the rights of employees. How you feel about that is pretty irrelevant. The fact that you consider the abuse a-okay because they agreed to be employed by Wal-mart is laughable. It's no more laughable than saying indentured servants agreed to be mistreated. :shrug:
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All drama, nothing but drama. It is not abuse. Giving them a job is not abuse. Your interpretation is no more than manufactured drama.
 
DVSentinel said:
Mankind is a socialized predator, much like a wolf. Anyone acting like a member of a domesticated flock/herd is not acting human, Thus, I don't view them as human. They are a different species in direct competition for the resources of the planet/universe, thus, they are enemies.

Perhaps it a variation on Neitzsche's master/slave morality. Some people will naturally be masters, some will tend towards natural slavery. What Neitzsche left out was some will tend towards freedom without the need to be masters over anyone but themselves. I hold to the third option, freedom without being a master and I despise and dehumanize anyone who would willing be a slave, the left, and those non-leftist who feel they must be masters over others, the corporatist.
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Or perhaps you just have a repulsive worldview.
 
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Black Dog said:
Apple IIe was easy as they were on tape or disk. Easy enough to transfer over the years, same with DOS. The console games I did not have to transfer from the cartridge. The cartridge games you just download off the web if you already own the game, it's not illegal as long as you own it. There are a few sites you can download game roms for emulators etc.

PS Also can be obtained at abandonware sites as well.
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I love the ability to play ROMs. I had tons of older, classic NES and SNES games in my garage that I couldn't play, because the NES console didn't work anymore. Seeing as how I own the cartridges, I just downloaded the ROMs, and an emulator, and now I can play all my games again. I even play them on my Android phone.
 
NonoBadDog said:
All drama, nothing but drama. It is not abuse. Giving them a job is not abuse. Your interpretation is no more than manufactured drama.
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Still trying?

HOW DOES THE LAW DEFINE ABUSE?

The Pennsylvania State Code defines "abuse" as follows: The occurrence of one or more of the following acts:

(i) The infliction of injury, unreasonable confinement, intimidation or punishment with resulting physical harm, pain or mental anguish.

(ii) The willful deprivation by a caretaker of goods or services, which are necessary to maintain physical or mental health.

(iii) Sexual harassment, rape or abuse as it is defined in the Protection From Abuse Act (35 P. S. § § 10181—10190).
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Forcing someone to work because you know that is their only means to earn a living is abuse. :)
 
Superfly said:
I love the ability to play ROMs. I had tons of older, classic NES and SNES games in my garage that I couldn't play, because the NES console didn't work anymore. Seeing as how I own the cartridges, I just downloaded the ROMs, and an emulator, and now I can play all my games again. I even play them on my Android phone.
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Yea it's so cool to every now and again go back and play the classics.
 
Black Dog said:
Only problem is they are not forcing anyone to take a job. That argument is absurd.
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No more relevant than saying the treatment of indentured servants wasn't abuse because they decided to take those jobs. Would you say the treatment of indentured servants wasn't abuse because they decided to take those jobs? :) Or are we going to start playing the age old conservative game of real vs fake _____________?
 
Black Dog said:
Only problem is they are not forcing anyone to take a job. That argument is absurd.
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Plus the fact that he purposely didn't highlight "unreasonable" from the definition. It is not unreasonable to expect people to do the job for which they have been hired and are being paid.
 
It truly surprises me that these people can be so naive as to think WalMart gives a crap about their demands.

These people are incredibly replaceable, they have little bargaining power.

Unless they have TOTAL solidarity and the public refuses to cross the picket lines to take their jobs, they will get nothing but token gestures from WalMart, IMO.
 
Black Dog said:
I still play my original Sega Genesis and Apple IIe games with the appropriate emulator. I even play old Dos games with "DOSBox." So I have a massive library of games no console can touch.

Intel Core i7 4770k @ 4.2GHz water cooled. 16GB DDR3 & AMD R 280X 5BG DDR5.


As for Walmart, who cares at this point? People can accept what they are paying and the hours or not. That simple. You want better? Go to school.
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Curious, why such a conservative OC? I clock my 3770K to 5.06 full time. I use a Corsair CWCH90 liquid cooler, and it's rock solid.
 
WallStreetVixen said:
There has been economic studies confirming that Walmart provides the most savings for lower income earners and other wage earners than any other super centre or department store.

I can provide you an example of that study if you'd like, but I'd doubt that you'd read it.
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there have also been several studies done that show the economic savings brought to a community by walmart are more than offset by the economic cost walmart brings by depressing wages in the area. basically what happens it that yes, prices in a new walmart's region decrease, but wages decrease more than the prices do so it bring a net economic harm to the community (mostly to the community's poor).
 
bg85 said:
there have also been several studies done that show the economic savings brought to a community by walmart are more than offset by the economic cost walmart brings by depressing wages in the area. basically what happens it that yes, prices in a new walmart's region decrease, but wages decrease more than the prices do so it bring a net economic harm to the community (mostly to the community's poor).
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And the authors of said study are?
 
WallStreetVixen said:
And the authors of said study are?
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here's one:

http://www.econstor.eu/bitstream/10419/33811/1/541733907.pdf

"The employment results indicate that a Wal-Mart store opening reduces county-level retail employment by about 150 workers, implying that each Wal-Mart worker replaces approximately 1.4 retail workers. This represents a 2.7 percent reduction in average retail employment. The payroll results indicate that Wal-Mart store openings lead to declines in county-level retail earnings of about $1.2 million, or 1.3 percent. Of course, these effects occurred against a backdrop of rising retail employment, and only imply lower retail employment growth than would have occurred absent the effects of Wal-Mart."

looks like this one was written by a some a german dude and some non-german dudes.
 
Hatuey said:
No more relevant than saying the treatment of indentured servants wasn't abuse because they decided to take those jobs. Would you say the treatment of indentured servants wasn't abuse because they decided to take those jobs? :) Or are we going to start playing the age old conservative game of real vs fake _____________?
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An indentured servant could not just leave and go elsewhere. An employee has a choice to work for a company or not within the bounds of a legal contract.

Again your argument is absurd.
 
Uncensored2008 said:
Curious, why such a conservative OC? I clock my 3770K to 5.06 full time. I use a Corsair CWCH90 liquid cooler, and it's rock solid.
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Why? As far as returns go it's not really worth it as it is not a bottleneck even at stock speeds. On top of that I would have to modify the heat spreader on the processor as the 4770 is not soldered. Then there is all the tweaking of the ram etc that I am not interested in doing just for the sake of doing it.

It's a waist of time and effort for something I can't even use or need. I would rather be playing video games.
 
Black Dog said:
An indentured servant could not just leave and go elsewhere.
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They agreed to that in their contracts. Does that make their punishment justified or not?

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C'man man, you're better than this.

An employee has a choice to work for a company or not within the bounds of a legal contract.

Again your argument is absurd.
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This depends on choice. How much work is available? Is Walmart the only real employer within a reasonable traveling distance? Again, this argument of just leaving the workplace only works if you know all the factors to the person's living conditions. If you don't, it's mostly wishful thinking and theorizing.
 
Hatuey said:
They agreed to that in their contracts. Does that make their punishment justified or not?

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C'man man, you're better than this.
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Again you are trying to compare and illegal act to a legal one as in Employee in 2014 vs an indentured servant circa the 1800's. Your argument is just so stupid and lacks in even basic common sense.

Hatuey said:
This depends on choice. How much work is available? Is Walmart the only real employer within a reasonable traveling distance?
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Then go someplace else, it's your choice as a free individual. The government is not responsible for your life circumstance. Hell I drove 2500 miles to CA because I did not like where I was. Lived in my car for a month while I saved to get a place working 3 jobs. So if you have the drive, you can do what you want. So you have a choice no matter your circumstance in the US.

Hatuey said:
Again, this argument of just leaving the workplace only works if you know all the factors to the person's living conditions. If you don't, it's mostly wishful thinking and theorizing.
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You still don't get it. Their circumstance is irrelevant. You can, no matter what your circumstances are, leave if you don't like the job.
 
Black Dog said:
Again you are trying to compare and illegal act to a legal one as in Employee in 2014 vs an indentured servant circa the 1800's.
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There was nothing illegal about indentured servitude or the contracts which were made to validate them. So I'll ask one last time: Were their punishments okay because they agreed to it?

Your argument is just so stupid and lacks in even basic common sense.
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Your rapid degeneration into ad-homs tells me different. Are you aggravated that holes have been poked in your argument?

Then go someplace else, it's your choice as a free individual. The government is not responsible for your life circumstance. Hell I drove 2500 miles to CA because I did not like where I was. Lived in my car for a month while I saved to get a place working 3 jobs. So if you have the drive, you can do what you want. So you have a choice no matter your circumstance in the US.

You still don't get it. Their circumstance is irrelevant. You can, no matter what your circumstances are, leave if you don't like the job.
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What about people who do not have these options. I've already asked you: What is your solution for them? Say you have a single mother of 3 who lives 10 minutes from a town whose only real stable employment is Walmart. Is she supposed to quit her job, and go somewhere else for a job? What if she simply can't risk going 2 weeks without a paycheck?
 
Hatuey said:
There was nothing illegal about indentured servitude or the contracts which were made to validate them. So I'll ask one last time: Were their punishments okay because they agreed to it?
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They are illegal NOW. What part of that would I need to explain for you to understand this is not the 1800's? It is 2014 last time I looked.

Hatuey said:
Your rapid degeneration into ad-homs tells me different. Are you aggravated that holes have been poked in your argument?
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No. I am not aggravated either. I am just dumbfounded you think that the absurd drivel in your posts are an argument.

Hatuey said:
What about people who do not have these options. I've already asked you: What is your solution for them?
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Their circumstance is irrelevant, period. Go find a different job if you don't want to do the job you were hired for.

Hatuey said:
Say you have a single mother of 3 who lives 10 minutes from a town whose only real stable employment is Walmart. Is she supposed to quit her job, and go somewhere else for a job? What if she simply can't risk going 2 weeks without a paycheck?
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I don't care if she can't go one day, she is free to choose her own course. If she does not want to do the job she was hired for.... leave. She is well within her rights to do so.
 
Deuce said:
Everyone working at WalMart "screwed up their own lives?" :lamo

I love these guys and their magical fairy tale universe where everything is fair and everyone gets everything they deserve, and deserves everything they get.
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It is easier than caring about others. That opens up a whole can of worms for the free market worshipper.
 
Black Dog said:
They are illegal NOW.
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Nobody questioned whether they're illegal now. Well.. technically, they're illegal in the United States. They're still very much legal in some countries as the UN Declaration of HRs didn't actually make it illegal. Only national legislation can do that. I asked you whether treating them badly was justified because they signed their contracts. Yes or no answer.

No. I am not aggravated either. I am just dumbfounded you think that the absurd drivel in your posts are an argument.
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Still ad-homin'? Doesn't change the facts yo.

Their circumstance is irrelevant, period. Go find a different job if you don't want to do the job you were hired for.

I don't care if she can't go one day, she is free to choose her own course. If she does not want to do the job she was hired for.... leave. She is well within her rights to do so.
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Still unable to answer my question? Fine. I'll make it simpler for you: If a person does not have the means to move on to another job, should they resign themselves to mistreatment?
 
WallStreetVixen said:
...Retail use to be a good industry? How did you arrive at that conclusion? Were adults always taking retail jobs in the States? As far as I know, those jobs only went to teens to gain marketable skills. What a backwards country this is... As far as I'm concerned, it's not a real job. It requires the bare minimum skills (probably less than that) with hardly no educational background at all. All associates do is take my money while pretending to be nice or care about me and everything they sell on the shelfs contributes to your ballooning trade deficit.

Yeah, it's not much of a real job.
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I have been all over the USA, portions of Canada and Mexico and a good chunk of Europe. At least 95% of the people I saw working in retail were adults. I remember when most of the larger stores were unionized as were most other blue collar jobs for larger companies. Back then, taxpayers didn't have to subsidize the pay of people who worked full-time, the workers could afford basic food, shelter, transportation and clothing on their wages.

Where is this place where only teens worked in retail?
 
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