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Senator: White House Simply Doesn't "Want Public to Know" Scope of CIA Torture

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The war-criminal-in-chief doesn't want to cast any light on his own war crimes. He already made it clear that he wants to look back and not look forward. That's complicity to war crimes as clearly detailed by the Nuremburg Principles.

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Senator: White House Simply Doesn't "Want Public to Know" Scope of CIA Torture

Members of Intelligence Committee say White House is stalling release of torture report as high-level disagreement over what American people can know about abuses by CIA reaches boiling point; Transparency advocates tell lawmakers with access to report, 'Just read it into the record.'
by Jon Queally, staff writer

"The public has to know about it. They don’t want the public to know about it."

That's what Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D-W.Va.) told the Huffington Post on Thursday night regarding continued White House stalling over release of a report that catalogs the internal investigation of CIA torture during the Bush years. The comments followed a close-door meeting between Senate Democrats and Obama administration officials that took place just hours before the president gave a much-anticipated speech on another subject, immigration reform.

Rockefeller said the torture report is "being slow-walked to death" by the administration and told the HuffPost, "They’re doing everything they can not to release it."

"[The report] makes a lot of people who did really bad things look really bad," Rockefeller continued, "which is the only way not to repeat those mistakes in the future."

Though the report has been completed for many months, the members of the Senate Intelligence committee have been fighting with the White House, which allowed CIA officials to review its findings, over the scope of redactions to the report's summary before it's made public. Though the full report is not expected to be released to publicly, human rights and transparency advocates have urged members to simply enter the report into the public record, something they have legal authority to do, as a way to inform the American people, and the world, of the full scope of the tactics used by U.S. government agents during the earlier years of the so-called 'war on terror.'

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Senator: White House Simply Doesn't "Want Public to Know" Scope of CIA Torture | Common Dreams | Breaking News & Views for the Progressive Community
 
Bob0627 said:
The war-criminal-in-chief doesn't want to cast any light on his own war crimes. He already made it clear that he wants to look back and not look forward. That's complicity to war crimes as clearly detailed by the Nuremburg Principles.

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Senator: White House Simply Doesn't "Want Public to Know" Scope of CIA Torture

Members of Intelligence Committee say White House is stalling release of torture report as high-level disagreement over what American people can know about abuses by CIA reaches boiling point; Transparency advocates tell lawmakers with access to report, 'Just read it into the record.'
by Jon Queally, staff writer

"The public has to know about it. They don’t want the public to know about it."

That's what Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D-W.Va.) told the Huffington Post on Thursday night regarding continued White House stalling over release of a report that catalogs the internal investigation of CIA torture during the Bush years. The comments followed a close-door meeting between Senate Democrats and Obama administration officials that took place just hours before the president gave a much-anticipated speech on another subject, immigration reform.

Rockefeller said the torture report is "being slow-walked to death" by the administration and told the HuffPost, "They’re doing everything they can not to release it."

"[The report] makes a lot of people who did really bad things look really bad," Rockefeller continued, "which is the only way not to repeat those mistakes in the future."

Though the report has been completed for many months,
the members of the Senate Intelligence committee have been fighting with the White House, which allowed CIA officials to review its findings, over the scope of redactions to the report's summary
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before it's made public. Though the full report is not expected to be released to publicly, human rights and transparency advocates have urged members to simply enter the report into the public record, something they have legal authority to do, as a way to inform the American people, and the world, of the full scope of the tactics used by U.S. government agents during the earlier years of the so-called 'war on terror.'

Read the rest of the article ...

Senator: White House Simply Doesn't "Want Public to Know" Scope of CIA Torture | Common Dreams | Breaking News & Views for the Progressive Community
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If they would just redact the entire report there would be no problem releasing it and we could move on.
 
shrubnose said:
If they would just redact the entire report there would be no problem releasing it and we could move on.
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Yeah, look how well that works for the redacted 28 pages of the 9/11 Commission Report.
 
Bob0627 said:
The war-criminal-in-chief doesn't want to cast any light on his own war crimes. He already made it clear that he wants to look back and not look forward. That's complicity to war crimes as clearly detailed by the Nuremburg Principles.

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Senator: White House Simply Doesn't "Want Public to Know" Scope of CIA Torture

Members of Intelligence Committee say White House is stalling release of torture report as high-level disagreement over what American people can know about abuses by CIA reaches boiling point; Transparency advocates tell lawmakers with access to report, 'Just read it into the record.'
by Jon Queally, staff writer

"The public has to know about it. They don’t want the public to know about it."

That's what Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D-W.Va.) told the Huffington Post on Thursday night regarding continued White House stalling over release of a report that catalogs the internal investigation of CIA torture during the Bush years. The comments followed a close-door meeting between Senate Democrats and Obama administration officials that took place just hours before the president gave a much-anticipated speech on another subject, immigration reform.

Rockefeller said the torture report is "being slow-walked to death" by the administration and told the HuffPost, "They’re doing everything they can not to release it."

"[The report] makes a lot of people who did really bad things look really bad," Rockefeller continued, "which is the only way not to repeat those mistakes in the future."

Though the report has been completed for many months, the members of the Senate Intelligence committee have been fighting with the White House, which allowed CIA officials to review its findings, over the scope of redactions to the report's summary before it's made public. Though the full report is not expected to be released to publicly, human rights and transparency advocates have urged members to simply enter the report into the public record, something they have legal authority to do, as a way to inform the American people, and the world, of the full scope of the tactics used by U.S. government agents during the earlier years of the so-called 'war on terror.'

Read the rest of the article ...

Senator: White House Simply Doesn't "Want Public to Know" Scope of CIA Torture | Common Dreams | Breaking News & Views for the Progressive Community
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Why wouldn't the administration want the public to know about CIA torture during the past administration? I thought Obama was all for blaming Bush for every problem coming out of Pandora's box?

or is that just a mantra repeated by the opposition?
 
Dittohead not! said:
Why wouldn't the administration want the public to know about CIA torture during the past administration? I thought Obama was all for blaming Bush for every problem coming out of Pandora's box?

or is that just a mantra repeated by the opposition?
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I think the first sentence I wrote might yield a clue.
 
Dittohead not! said:
In other words, like the rest of the Bush policies, our "hope and change" president hasn't really changed anything.
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Well it's arguable whether he didn't change anything (policy-wise) or just made what was really bad, much worse. I vote for the latter.
 
Bob0627 said:
Well it's arguable whether he didn't change anything (policy-wise) or just made what was really bad, much worse. I vote for the latter.
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Right off hand, I can't think of much that he didn't either continue or double down on.
 
Dittohead not! said:
Why wouldn't the administration want the public to know about CIA torture during the past administration? I thought Obama was all for blaming Bush for every problem coming out of Pandora's box?

or is that just a mantra repeated by the opposition?
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That is just a mantra repeated by the opposition to fool the gullible. The gullible being those who really cannot grasp the fact that people behind the scenes, The Powers That Be, actually control the government, and that pretty much every POTUS in the last few decades do the bidding of TPTB.

The last POTUS to "not play the game" took a bullet in the head in Dallas.
 
Henry David said:
That is just a mantra repeated by the opposition to fool the gullible. The gullible being those who really cannot grasp the fact that people behind the scenes, The Powers That Be, actually control the government, and that pretty much every POTUS in the last few decades do the bidding of TPTB.

The last POTUS to "not play the game" took a bullet in the head in Dallas.
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If every president is forced to cover for the the last one with something more nefarious and grand ahead.... Imagine how huge that serpents head would grow after a few.
 
Bob0627 said:
I think the first sentence I wrote might yield a clue.
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LOL So he is giving Bush a pass because he has war crimes too? If Obama wanted to pursue the previous administrations war crimes he would have to turn GW over to the Hague. Is that what you want? Obama clearly does not. It would reflect badly on the Presidency and the nation. As much as I would like to see GW rotting in jail, I have to agree.
 
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iguanaman said:
LOL So he is giving Bush a pass because he has war crimes too?
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Yes, absolutely, no matter how amusing you think that is.

If Obama wanted to pursue the previous administrations war crimes he would have to turn GW over to the Hague.
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Why is that? There are federal laws that cover war crimes. I would think that he would be prosecuted under federal law, which likely encompass violations of international law. Personally, I would like to see him tried in an international court, preferably one that takes the Nuremburg Principles into account. He wouldn't get a fair trial in the US. Reality is that no US court would prosecute a President for war crimes.

Is that what you want?
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Hell yeah, the guy is a ****ing war criminal, responsible for the death of hundreds of thousands of innocent people, 1/3 of these were children.

Obama clearly does not.
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Of course not, for the reason I stated. He committed similar war crimes, give or take. And he's still committing them because Bush hasn't been charged.

It would reflect badly on the Presidency and the nation.
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That's irrelevant, criminals need to be prosecuted. Otherwise the crimes are repeated by future administrations who would act under the premise that they can get away with genocide. These war criminals reflect badly on the nation and the Presidency without being charged of any crimes.

As much as I would like to see GW rotting in jail, I have to agree.
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That's your prerogative, I don't believe in letting war criminals off the hook, for any reason.
 
The politicians protect their own.
 
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