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Illegal drunk drivers, sex abusers, drug dealers, gun offenders, no problem.

AlbqOwl

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If the Washington Examiner has it right in this news story, President Obama's newly ordered immigration policy will give top priority to deporting illegals who are involved in terrorism. Really? You mean that wasn't a priority before?

What the new immigration policy won't do is consider illegals who are convicted of drunk driving, sex abuse, drug dealing, and gun offenses as justification for immediate deportation. The offender apparently must be convicted of a lot of these kinds of crimes before he will be considered unworthy to remain in this country.

So if I'm reading this right, the illegals are no longer required to obey many of our laws in order to remain here. All they have to do is agree to pay their fair share of taxes, which of course most won't have to do as they will be immediately eligible for all manner of public assistance at our expense.

I think I'll denounce my citizenship, move somewhere else, and come back as an illegal. Seems to be a better deal, yes?

The Department of Homeland Security has just released new "Policies for the Apprehension, Detention, and Removal of Undocumented Immigrants." Designed to fill in the details after President Obama's announcement that at least four million currently illegal immigrants will be given work permits, Social Security numbers and protection from deportation, the DHS guidelines are instructions for the nation's immigration and border security officers as they administer the president's directive.

The new priorities are striking. On the tough side, the president wants U.S. immigration authorities to go after terrorists, felons, and new illegal border crossers. On the not-so-tough side, the administration views convicted drunk drivers, sex abusers, drug dealers, and gun offenders as second-level enforcement priorities. An illegal immigrant could spend up to a year in prison for a violent crime and still not be a top removal priority for the Obama administration. . . .

New DHS immigration rules: Drunk drivers, sex abusers, drug dealers, gun offenders not top deportation priorities | WashingtonExaminer.com
 
Uhhhh...

"Aliens described in this priority , who are also not described in Priority 1, represent
the second-highest priority for apprehension and removal. Resources should be dedicated
accordingly to the removal of the following:
(a) aliens convicted of three or more misdemeanor offenses, other than minor
traffic offenses or state or local offenses for which an essential element
3was the alien's immigration status, provided the offenses arise out of
three separate incidents;
(b) aliens convicted of a "significant misdemeanor," which for these purposes
is an offense of domestic violence ;
1
sexual abuse or exploitation;
burglary; un lawful possession or use of a firearm; drug distribution or
trafficking; or driving under the influence; or if not an offense listed
above, one for which the individual was sentenced to time in custody of
90 days or more (the sentence must involve time to be served in custody,
and does not include a suspended sentence);
(c) aliens apprehended anywhere in the United States after unlawfully
entering or re-entering the United States and who cannot establish to the
satisfaction of an immigration officer that they have been physically
present in the United States continuously since January 1, 2014 ; and
(d) aliens who, in the judgment of an ICE Field Office Director, USCIS
District Director, or USCIS Service Center Director, have significantly
abused the visa orvisa waiver programs."
 
Just simple math would indicate that deporting "the worst of the worst", even at a rate of 400K/year, would take decades to exhaust the remaining (estimated) 15 million illegals already here even if we assumed no more will come (or stay) in the country. One tiny problem is that a smart country may simply deny (re)entry to those "worst of the worst" that we seek to deport. Expect a boom in the business of "community organizers" generating proof of residency receipts to help illegals become legal.
 
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If the Washington Examiner has it right in this news story, President Obama's newly ordered immigration policy will give top priority to deporting illegals who are involved in terrorism. Really? You mean that wasn't a priority before?

What the new immigration policy won't do is consider illegals who are convicted of drunk driving, sex abuse, drug dealing, and gun offenses as justification for immediate deportation. The offender apparently must be convicted of a lot of these kinds of crimes before he will be considered unworthy to remain in this country.

So if I'm reading this right, the illegals are no longer required to obey many of our laws in order to remain here. All they have to do is agree to pay their fair share of taxes, which of course most won't have to do as they will be immediately eligible for all manner of public assistance at our expense.

I think I'll denounce my citizenship, move somewhere else, and come back as an illegal. Seems to be a better deal, yes?
The Department of Homeland Security has just released new "Policies for the Apprehension, Detention, and Removal of Undocumented Immigrants." Designed to fill in the details after President Obama's announcement that at least four million currently illegal immigrants will be given work permits, Social Security numbers and protection from deportation, the DHS guidelines are instructions for the nation's immigration and border security officers as they administer the president's directive.

The new priorities are striking. On the tough side, the president wants U.S. immigration authorities to go after terrorists, felons, and new illegal border crossers. On the not-so-tough side, the administration views convicted drunk drivers, sex abusers, drug dealers, and gun offenders as second-level enforcement priorities. An illegal immigrant could spend up to a year in prison for a violent crime and still not be a top removal priority for the Obama administration. . . .

New DHS immigration rules: Drunk drivers, sex abusers, drug dealers, gun offenders not top deportation priorities | WashingtonExaminer.com

You contention is that deporting "Drunk drivers, sex abusers, drug dealers, gun offenders" is more important than deporting terrorists and felons?

Why shouldn't "misdemeanants" be in the #2 spot behind terrorists and felons?

Should "misdemeanants" be in the #1 spot or the #3 spot?

Or would you just lump all of the various groups together and call that "prioritizing"?
 
You contention is that deporting "Drunk drivers, sex abusers, drug dealers, gun offenders" is more important than deporting terrorists?
Why shouldn't "misdemeanants" be in the #2 spot behind terrorists?
Should "misdemeanants" be in the #1 spot or the #3 spot?

Or would you just lump all of the various groups together and call that "prioritizing"?

I would use the fact that they are in custody and convicted to prioritize their removal. Why use resources to catch them instead of to deport them?
 
I would use the fact that they are in custody and convicted to prioritize their removal. Why use resources to catch them instead of to deport them?
You're in the make them all #1 priority camp.
 
What good is deporting bad guys if they simply come right back across our porous boarder. I think the guy that killed those two cops in California had been deported 3 times.
 
You're in the make them all #1 priority camp.

Actually, more in the let the states decide camp and also feel that the EAD card should be job specific but transferable with an employer sponsor.
 
What good is deporting bad guys if they simply come right back across our porous boarder. I think the guy that killed those two cops in California had been deported 3 times.

Maybe because Mexico has some objections to its neighbor building fortified walls on its border
 
If the Washington Examiner has it right in this news story, President Obama's newly ordered immigration policy will give top priority to deporting illegals who are involved in terrorism. Really? You mean that wasn't a priority before?

What the new immigration policy won't do is consider illegals who are convicted of drunk driving, sex abuse, drug dealing, and gun offenses as justification for immediate deportation. The offender apparently must be convicted of a lot of these kinds of crimes before he will be considered unworthy to remain in this country.

So if I'm reading this right, the illegals are no longer required to obey many of our laws in order to remain here. All they have to do is agree to pay their fair share of taxes, which of course most won't have to do as they will be immediately eligible for all manner of public assistance at our expense.

I think I'll denounce my citizenship, move somewhere else, and come back as an illegal. Seems to be a better deal, yes?

The Department of Homeland Security has just released new "Policies for the Apprehension, Detention, and Removal of Undocumented Immigrants." Designed to fill in the details after President Obama's announcement that at least four million currently illegal immigrants will be given work permits, Social Security numbers and protection from deportation, the DHS guidelines are instructions for the nation's immigration and border security officers as they administer the president's directive.

The new priorities are striking. On the tough side, the president wants U.S. immigration authorities to go after terrorists, felons, and new illegal border crossers. On the not-so-tough side, the administration views convicted drunk drivers, sex abusers, drug dealers, and gun offenders as second-level enforcement priorities. An illegal immigrant could spend up to a year in prison for a violent crime and still not be a top removal priority for the Obama administration. . . .

New DHS immigration rules: Drunk drivers, sex abusers, drug dealers, gun offenders not top deportation priorities | WashingtonExaminer.com
A couple points...

1) I think you are indeed not reading it right. As I take it, while past offenses may be overlooked, there is nothing that says they get a "get out of jail free" card from here on out.

2) Of all the crimes listed, drunk driving is hardly one that is prone to be habitual. Many people actually do learn their lesson and never get another one.

I also do NOT approve of the Presidents actions, but sheesh, take a Valium. The sky is not falling, either.
 
Maybe because Mexico has some objections to its neighbor building fortified walls on its border
And maybe not. Who cares what Mexico wants. We do what is in our interests not what is in theirs.
 
You contention is that deporting "Drunk drivers, sex abusers, drug dealers, gun offenders" is more important than deporting terrorists and felons?

Now I didn't say that did I.

Why shouldn't "misdemeanants" be in the #2 spot behind terrorists and felons?

Should "misdemeanants" be in the #1 spot or the #3 spot?

Or would you just lump all of the various groups together and call that "prioritizing"?

If the administration is just now making apprehension of terrorists and felons their number one priority, frankly I think the administration should be deported.

But there should be no give in the law in any circumstance. It might be okay to overlook a parking or jay walking ticket, but ALL anti-social crimes--those with the potential of harming others, committed by somebody who is here uninvited to begin with, should make that person subject to deportation immediately upon serving whatever sentence is imposed.
 
Now I didn't say that did I.



If the administration is just now making apprehension of terrorists and felons their number one priority, frankly I think the administration should be deported.

But there should be no give in the law in any circumstance. It might be okay to overlook a parking or jay walking ticket, but ALL anti-social crimes--those with the potential of harming others, committed by somebody who is here uninvited to begin with, should make that person subject to deportation immediately upon serving whatever sentence is imposed.


Prosecutorial discretion.

http://www.ice.gov/doclib/secure-communities/pdf/prosecutorial-discretion-memo.pdf
 
We share a border so ownership is 50-50
So we build a wall and not worry about what they think. Chances are they like our borders open so that their criminals can come up here and cause havoc.
 
You contention is that deporting "Drunk drivers, sex abusers, drug dealers, gun offenders" is more important than deporting terrorists and felons?

Why shouldn't "misdemeanants" be in the #2 spot behind terrorists and felons?

Should "misdemeanants" be in the #1 spot or the #3 spot?

Or would you just lump all of the various groups together and call that "prioritizing"?

They should be part of the same priority and not given any sort of deportation stay.
 
Maybe because Mexico has some objections to its neighbor building fortified walls on its border

The wall isn't built on their side of the border. Who gives a rip what Mexico thinks of it?
 
Maybe because Mexico has some objections to its neighbor building fortified walls on its border

**** Mexico. I would have a fricken moat with allgators with lasers on their heads and mines and all the border patrol with orders to kill anything that moved on the border not at a proper entry point.
 
**** Mexico. I would have a fricken moat with allgators with lasers on their heads and mines and all the border patrol with orders to kill anything that moved on the border not at a proper entry point.

I bet that every deportation will challenged by lawyers.
 
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