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A third of Fortune 500 companies now cover transgender health care

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A third of Fortune 500 companies now cover transgender health care
[h=1]A third of Fortune 500 companies now cover transgender health care[/h][h=2]A new report highlights dramatic changes in how corporations treat trans employees.The number of Fortune 500 companies willing pay for sex reassignment surgeries has gone from zero in 2002 to 169 this year, according to a new report from the Human Rights Campaign.The report, which ranks corporations on their treatment of gay, lesbian, bisexual and trans employees, also found that more than half of corporations with more than 500 employees that participated in the survey now cover the procedures. That’s 418 firms.Some of the biggest names in corporate America are among those who have signed up to cover the procedures, at up to $75,000 per employee. Facebook Inc., Visa, Starbucks Corp., CVS Health Corp. and Anheuser-Busch Companies Inc. are just some of the firms that decided this year to begin covering the procedures for their workers for the first time.[/h]
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While the vast majority of Fortune 500 companies now have nondiscrimination policies that explicitly protect employees from being fired for their gender identity or orientation, companies have moved much more slowly when it comes to covering transgender health care. The vast majority of health insurance plans explicitly ban the coverage of any transition-related care, grouping those procedures with elective cosmetic surgery. This has slowly begun to change as mainstream medical organizations, including the American Medical Association, have announced new positions in recent years stating that sex reassignment surgery is not elective for some transgender people. (The American Medical Association said in 2008 that “gender dysphoria” is a “serious medical condition” that can result in “suicidality and death” without proper treatment.)

more good news
slowly but surely equality is winning and human beings are getting the treatment they deserve and have a right too.

I still find it amazing that I get to witness these victories first hand, from equal rights on SSM sweeping across the nation with final victories near to most large cities and corporations already protecting the equal rights of sexual orientation. Its sad that it took till 2014 for many of these people and companies to care about equal rights but as along as we are on the road to fix and right this wrong things are looking great!
 
I wonder when they'll stop trying to institute gun control.
 
A third of Fortune 500 companies now cover transgender health care


more good news
slowly but surely equality is winning and human beings are getting the treatment they deserve and have a right too.

I still find it amazing that I get to witness these victories first hand, from equal rights on SSM sweeping across the nation with final victories near to most large cities and corporations already protecting the equal rights of sexual orientation. Its sad that it took till 2014 for many of these people and companies to care about equal rights but as along as we are on the road to fix and right this wrong things are looking great!

What exactly does that package cover that mine would not? A transsexual operation? The hormone pills?
 
What exactly does that package cover that mine would not? A transsexual operation? The hormone pills?

That's right, didn't you know that people have a God-given right to change their sex and have their employer pay for it?
 
I do find it somewhat inconsistent, not necessarily in a bad way, that gays, lesbians, bi-sexuals, etc., who strongly, and rightly in my view, point out that they do not chose their sexual lot in life - they are born who they are - believe everyone should respect and acknowledge that fact. I agree. And yet, the whole point of transgender treatment is to "correct" mistakes of God/nature and to allow individuals to live outwardly, within their bodies, as they feel inwardly, within their minds.

Contrary to this, there's a lot of cynicism and ridicule from these same people of any person who is naturally homosexual yet wants to be straight and strives to seek treatments that will help them live inwardly, in their minds, as they do outwardly, within their bodies.

These comments are not made in a negative way, but as a reflection of my own view that I wish for all individuals a life where they are happy and comfortable with who they are externally and internally and I wish for a society where nobody tries to interfere.
 
What exactly does that package cover that mine would not? A transsexual operation? The hormone pills?

From what I've seen, they cover hormone pills. Not sure about the operations, though.
 
What exactly does that package cover that mine would not? A transsexual operation? The hormone pills?

as the article states and my qoute state

" The vast majority of health insurance plans explicitly ban the coverage of any transition-related care, grouping those procedures with elective cosmetic surgery. This has slowly begun to change as mainstream medical organizations, including the American Medical Association, have announced new positions in recent years stating that sex reassignment surgery is not elective for some transgender people. (The American Medical Association said in 2008 that “gender dysphoria” is a “serious medical condition” that can result in “suicidality and death” without proper treatment.)"

more education and discover as gotten the insurance companies to understand that its not "elective cosmetic surgery"

so the transition is now covered or at least partial covered in certain way by certain plans

also
"Eight states have banned insurance companies from explicitly excluding surgeries for transgender people, and a handful of states even offer coverage for the procedures through Medicaid."

which is also big. Be nice if insurance actually listened to the medical community (more) and didnt make up thier own policies. But we are making progress.
 
1.)I do find it somewhat inconsistent, not necessarily in a bad way, that gays, lesbians, bi-sexuals, etc., who strongly, and rightly in my view, point out that they do not chose their sexual lot in life - they are born who they are - believe everyone should respect and acknowledge that fact. I agree. And yet, the whole point of transgender treatment is to "correct" mistakes of God/nature and to allow individuals to live outwardly, within their bodies, as they feel inwardly, within their minds.

2.) Contrary to this, there's a lot of cynicism and ridicule from these same people of any person who is naturally homosexual yet wants to be straight and strives to seek treatments that will help them live inwardly, in their minds, as they do outwardly, within their bodies.

3.) These comments are not made in a negative way, but as a reflection of my own view that I wish for all individuals a life where they are happy and comfortable with who they are externally and internally and I wish for a society where nobody tries to interfere.

1.) you find it inconsistent because you are mixing two things that are factually not the same. Being gay and having gender dysphoria or sexual identity issues etc (some terms old and new) are not the same.

2.) again you are confusing two things that are not the same, im not even sure what your example is trying to say but a person who has a homosexual orientation that simply wants to have a heterosexual orientation is not the same thing as being gay or having gender dysphoria in general. These things are much deeper or in some cases not. The majority of gay people are just find with themselves, they are different things.

3.) thats good you wish that, your confusion can be cleared up by studding/learning the difference and riding yourself of misinformation, assumption and ignorance on the subject (not meant in a bad way). There is much on this subject (the science and medical community info) that I myself do not know.
 
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That's right, didn't you know that people have a God-given right to change their sex and have their employer pay for it?

No one is claiming it as a right. Employer provided health insurance is part of a benefits package. Where you really confused by that?
 
No one is claiming it as a right. Employer provided health insurance is part of a benefits package. Where you really confused by that?

Not confused at all, the implication was blaming the healthcare for not providing for the transition. This is the same situation where that bitch complained because her birth control wasn't paid for. Gender changes are not common, so it shouldn't be a surprise that they wouldn't be covered. There is no requirement to cover everything in a health plan.
 
Hint: not every thread is ****ing about guns...

Look at the OPs avatar, he seems to be on a constant crusade when it comes to sexual issues. I was wondering when he was going to do something for his pro-gun stance.
 
Look at the OPs avatar, he seems to be on a constant crusade when it comes to sexual issues. I was wondering when he was going to do something for his pro-gun stance.

reeeeeeally?
like what?
participate in pro gun issue in my state? drum support for the castle laws that were changed in my state a couple years ago in my state?

or make posts like this (that were liked by 3 of the biggest guns rights people i know here)
http://www.debatepolitics.com/gun-c...nybody-oppose-safe-act-18.html#post1063992412

or threads like these?
http://www.debatepolitics.com/off-t...uns-guns-handgun-shotgun-semi-auto-rifle.html
http://www.debatepolitics.com/gun-control/150319-gun-control-independent.html
http://www.debatepolitics.com/gun-c...es-guns-protect-us-and-dont-also-harm-us.html

ooooooops, looks like now that you explained your random "seemingly" meaningless misplaced post its even more of a failure, you should of left it unexplained so it was less of a failure


of course i dont have as many gun posts/threads as equal rights posts/threads but thats based on the times. My gun and my guns rights are hugely much more safe and more protected than the equal rights denied many gay americans. ALso since most of the posts i make about equal rights are in "breaking news" theres not much to post on my already received gun rights.
 
A third of Fortune 500 companies now cover transgender health care


more good news
slowly but surely equality is winning and human beings are getting the treatment they deserve and have a right too.

I still find it amazing that I get to witness these victories first hand, from equal rights on SSM sweeping across the nation with final victories near to most large cities and corporations already protecting the equal rights of sexual orientation. Its sad that it took till 2014 for many of these people and companies to care about equal rights but as along as we are on the road to fix and right this wrong things are looking great!

I will have to add CVS to my list of companies never to do business with.
 
No one is claiming it as a right. Employer provided health insurance is part of a benefits package. Where you really confused by that?

Companies should be paying for mental healthcare that works to help these people, not for changes to their sex.

Or just toss the crazy idiots out the door.
 
People are making way too much of this issue. Even going so far as to suggest whom they will do business with exclusively because of this.
 
I will have to add CVS to my list of companies never to do business with.

Thats your right to not support companies that support equality, the medical and science communities and health care. :shrug: I have no problem with your decision.
 
reeeeeeally?
like what?
participate in pro gun issue in my state? drum support for the castle laws that were changed in my state a couple years ago in my state?

or make posts like this (that were liked by 3 of the biggest guns rights people i know here)
http://www.debatepolitics.com/gun-c...nybody-oppose-safe-act-18.html#post1063992412

or threads like these?
http://www.debatepolitics.com/off-t...uns-guns-handgun-shotgun-semi-auto-rifle.html
http://www.debatepolitics.com/gun-control/150319-gun-control-independent.html
http://www.debatepolitics.com/gun-c...es-guns-protect-us-and-dont-also-harm-us.html

ooooooops, looks like now that you explained your random "seemingly" meaningless misplaced post its even more of a failure, you should of left it unexplained so it was less of a failure


of course i dont have as many gun posts/threads as equal rights posts/threads but thats based on the times. My gun and my guns rights are hugely much more safe and more protected than the equal rights denied many gay americans. ALso since most of the posts i make about equal rights are in "breaking news" theres not much to post on my already received gun rights.

One post (yesterday) in almost two years. Congrats. :thumbs: I stand so corrected. :yawn:
 
1.)Companies should be paying for mental healthcare that works to help these people, not for changes to their sex.
2.)Or just toss the crazy idiots out the door.

1.) well you just proved you are severely uneducated about the issue.
2.) are you implying that people with gender dysphoria are "crazy idiots"
 
One post (yesterday) in almost two years. Congrats. :thumbs: I stand so corrected. :yawn:

nope just the most recent one that was easy to find but you are right, as usual you do stand corrected, your post failed and they make us yawn cause they are transparent and easily defeated.

you also conveniently ignored what was said about "breaking news" and already protected rights oooooops, more failure from your posts.
 
nope just the most recent one that was easy to find but you are right, as usual you do stand corrected, your post failed and they make us yawn cause they are transparent and easily defeated.

you also conveniently ignored what was said about "breaking news" and already protected rights oooooops, more failure from your posts.

That's not my problem, it's yours. You tried to prove something, which you really didn't. I'll see you in the gun control forum, maybe.
 
That's not my problem, it's yours. You tried to prove something, which you really didn't. I'll see you in the gun control forum, maybe.

"i" didnt try to prove anything, facts prove i have made and make gun posts and threads, one as recent as yesterday proving your claims wrong and making your post a failure. :shrug:
 
"i" didnt try to prove anything, facts prove i have made and make gun posts and threads, one as recent as yesterday proving your claims wrong and making your post a failure. :shrug:

My point stands. There's plenty going on in the gun control debate, but you are hardly seen there. Why? One post in two years isnt' participation. It's an important topic, just as important as SSM.
 
Companies should be paying for mental healthcare that works to help these people, not for changes to their sex.

Or just toss the crazy idiots out the door.

I did not know you where a trained expert in mental health. What is your degree?
 
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