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Al Franken Explains Net Neutrality To Ted Cruz

Cardinal said:
Wow.

Pop quiz, everyone: how is apdst able to function on the internet? How was he able to connect in the first place? The only answer that makes any conceivable sense is that somebody set all of this up for him.
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A personal attack! I'm shocked! :lamo
 
apdst said:
I have wifi. Must not be all that difficult.
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So somebody set all this up for you then. Okay, everybody, pop quiz #2: if net neutrality does indeed come to an end (permanently, I mean), who will apdst blame for his internet experience turning to crap and he's forced to pay for a hundred additional services?

a)Obama? Or,
b)ISP's lobbying to end net neutrality?
 
Cardinal said:
So somebody set all this up for you then. Okay, everybody, pop quiz #2: if net neutrality does indeed come to an end (permanently, I mean), who will apdst blame for his internet experience turning to crap and he's forced to pay for a hundred additional services?

a)Obama? Or,
b)ISP's lobbying to end net neutrality?
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Is your argument so weak that you have to insult me?
 
apdst said:
Is your argument so weak that you have to insult me?
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It's a fair question. If this really is in fact the end of net neutrality and your internet experience worsens, who will you blame?
 
whysoserious said:
Then answer the questions and debate honestly.
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:doh
iLOL

Answering irrelevant and off topic questions has nothing to do with debate or honesty.
The person not being honest was the other guy by asking such. You might want to speak to him.
 
Deuce said:
No. You still don't get it.

Net neutrality means what I said it means. It does not mean what you said it means. It never meant that. All these other regulations you are talking about? Those are not net neutrality. Net neutrality is not title II regulation. Net neutrality is exactly one thing, and I already told you what that was. Nobody uses the term "net neutrality" the way you are using it. Except you.

If you use a word in a way nobody else in the world uses it, confusion is your problem, not theirs.
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:doh
No. You still don't get it.
What you think it means is irrelevant to this discussion.
Having it declared a utility subjects it to regulation as a utility. Period.
You can not change that.
That is exactly why having it declared such is wrong.

Either you get that or you don't.
 
Kobie said:
Your entire attempt at a response is laughably dumb.
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Wrong again Kobie. Your whole diversion has been.

Cruz did not say that was neutrality, he is saying that is what will happen by making it a utility.
This is nothing more than Cruz being spot [on], as compared to you not knowing what you are talking about.​
 
Cardinal said:
It's a fair question. If this really is in fact the end of net neutrality and your internet experience worsens, who will you blame?
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Ahh, you exckuded the insults, this time. It almost appears that uou want to have a real conversation. Good deal!

What makes you so certain that our internet experience will worsen?
 
apdst said:
Ahh, you exckuded the insults, this time. It almost appears that uou want to have a real conversation. Good deal!

What makes you so certain that our internet experience will worsen?
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The isps paid $742,000 to politicians and successfully sued the FCC last January in order to end net neutrality, so it's clear they wish to behave differently than they have been for the past 25 years. If the result of this is that your internet experience worsens, who will you blame?
 
Cardinal said:
The isps paid $742,000 to politicians and successfully sued the FCC last January in order to end net neutrality, so it's clear they wish to behave differently than they have been for the past 25 years. If the result of this is that your internet experience worsens, who will you blame?
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How will they behave differently? It sounds more like your argument is, "private companies are evil and we need the government to takeover".
 
apdst said:
How will they behave differently? It sounds more like your argument is, "private companies are evil and we need the government to takeover".
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No, I said they will behave differently. The isps spent a lot of money to ensure they will be able to, so if the result of this is that your internet experience worsens, who will you blame? Simple question, apdst.
 
Cardinal said:
No, I said they will behave differently. The isps spent a lot of money to ensure they will be able to, so if the result of this is that your internet experience worsens, who will you blame? Simple question, apdst.
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How about we wait and see what happens before rushing into the arms of the benevolent state?
 
Cardinal said:
The isps paid $742,000 to politicians and successfully sued the FCC last January in order to end net neutrality,
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They sued because the FCC overstepped it's authority.
But I guess you prefer jackbooted thugs instead, huh? :shrug:
 
Cardinal said:
No, I said they will behave differently. The isps spent a lot of money to ensure they will be able to, so if the result of this is that your internet experience worsens, who will you blame? Simple question, apdst.
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The thread isn't about me! :lamo
 
Kobie said:
The unbridled hackery on the part of a few of the conservatives (and one so-called independent) on this thread is absolutely astounding.
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If only George Bush or Rush Limbaugh would come out in favor of this these conservatives like Fletch would change their position quicker than ****.
 
Texmex said:
If only George Bush or Rush Limbaugh would come out in favor of this these conservatives like Fletch would change their position quicker than ****.
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More like, a dann good way to get the Libbos ditch the bill.
 
Texmex said:
If only George Bush or Rush Limbaugh would come out in favor of this these conservatives like Fletch would change their position quicker than ****.
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You would be wrong. But I suspect you are used to that by now.

Is there any liberal left capable of honest debate? If so, please step forward.
 
What you boys seem to be missing is that BO coopted the term net neutrality as it tests well. He may even see about pursuing it but thats.not the point of his iniative.

As usual he is seizing control without congressional authority.

That done, he can do all those things Cruz mentions. So yes its exactly like ocare for the internet.

Of course in concept neutrality is good. But its never good to hand any administration free reign.
 
apdst said:
The thread isn't about me! :lamo
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Okay, so if this is the end of net neutrality and people's internet use worsens as a result, who will be to blame?
 
Fletch said:
How about we wait and see what happens before rushing into the arms of the benevolent state?
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We already were in "the arms of the benevolent state." That's why we had net neutrality up until last January.
 
Cardinal said:
Okay, so if this is the end of net neutrality and people's internet use worsens as a result, who will be to blame?
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If the government takes over the internet and when internet service worsens, who will you blame?

See? I can play that game, too.
 
Cardinal said:
We already were in "the arms of the benevolent state." That's why we had net neutrality up until last January.
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And you can't bear the thought of daddy not holding your hand through life I guess.
 
Fletch said:
You would be wrong. But I suspect you are used to that by now.

Is there any liberal left capable of honest debate? If so, please step forward.
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Pot, meet Kettle. :lamo
 
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