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Schools propose: Let boys into girls locker rooms[W:169]

Re: Schools propose: Let boys into girls locker rooms

So girls would find it unnatural to be sharing with a lesbian? How do you ban them too?
Once the odd balls take over completely. We can eliminate all showers and locker rooms.
Kinda like they eliminated all references to religion to Fredrick MD schools.
 
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Well not exactly the way "we did", but they still know when something's F-d up, and dude wearing a dress to school is F'd up, brah.

Tim-

Kids only see it that way if they are taught to see it that way. We are not born with any innate knowledge of gender social norms like wearing a dress.
 
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Schools propose: Let boys into girls locker rooms

The world keeps spinning around and keeps getting crazy. After one of the schools allowed a transgender teen (who hasn’t had the surgery yet) to use girl’s toilet, now in Minnesota they consider a possibility of allowing transgenders to use the shower together with the sex they identify themselves.
And while boys might even welcome such changes, I’m not sure that girls or their parents would be extremely glad to see a boy in the girl’s locker.
Seriously, why some doubtful need of one or two people is prevailing over the needs and rights of other people? Give them their own locker, everybody would be happy.



Stupid, stupid, stupid...

They are destroying children! FFS< don't they know it was much more fun and rewarding to sneak in?

Damn, they have taken the fun out of being young.
 
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In the other thread on this same subject I posted the law on this. OSHA requires separate sex bathrooms.

Pretty sure the suggestion is to make a third bathroom choice, which does not violate OSHA rules.

Not to mention OSHA rules can be changed.
 
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It's not as if the girls will ever meet a lesbian in the locker room, right?

A lesbian who just happens to have a penis... And going through puberty...
 
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Pretty sure the suggestion is to make a third bathroom choice, which does not violate OSHA rules.

Not to mention OSHA rules can be changed.

Yes, the federal LAW can be changed, but there are state laws that say the same things. And no, schools having to spend that money that otherwise is needed desperately for you know, education, on one or two students is absolutely absurd.
 
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How much does it cost to put panelling around individual showers, like there is in most public places with showers (eg campsites), or unisex toilets/changing rooms? It wouldn't even require much in terms of construction time...

I would have liked that when I took gym. I just didn't shower, which wasn't good for people who sat next to me in later classes....

Why do we make people all shower in one big group?
 
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There's nothing in the article that says anyone from the Minnesota State High School League wants to allow transgender boys to use the girls locker room. That was just made up by the author, Alex Newman, and an organization called Child Protection League for scare-mongering ads.
It's a loada crap.

Darn you. Going with actually reading the article and seeing what's going on instead of just jumping to the hype? Didn't think that was allowed on message boards....

(thanks for your post!)
 
Re: Schools propose: Let boys into girls locker rooms

In the other thread on this same subject I posted the law on this. OSHA requires separate sex bathrooms.

How is OSHA involved. OSHA is occupational saftey... What osha laws have over students?
The Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) is a federal agency, a division of the Department of Labor. The Occupational Health and Safety Act, the law that founded OSHA in 1970, guarantees Americans their right to working environments free of hazards that may affect their well-being

OSHA Laws for Restrooms in the Workplace | Chron.com
 
Re: Schools propose: Let boys into girls locker rooms

Once the odd balls take over completely. We can eliminate all showers and locker rooms.
Kinda like they eliminated all references to religion to Fredrick MD schools.

I haven't heard of this and didn't see anyone from a quick google, do you have a link?
 
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Kids only see it that way if they are taught to see it that way. We are not born with any innate knowledge of gender social norms like wearing a dress.

Bull****.. Maybe not wearing a dress to "identify" a girl, but come on man? Boys and girls don't need to be "taught" anything about gender. We figure it out all by ourselves.

Tim-
 
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I would have liked that when I took gym. I just didn't shower, which wasn't good for people who sat next to me in later classes....

Why do we make people all shower in one big group?

Space, construction costs, team building, ability to easily supervise, a number of reasons. Btw, converting to individual showers would be very expensive.
 
Re: Schools propose: Let boys into girls locker rooms

There's nothing in the article that says anyone from the Minnesota State High School League wants to allow transgender boys to use the girls locker room. That was just made up by the author, Alex Newman, and an organization called Child Protection League for scare-mongering ads.
It's a loada crap.

I don't know what transgendered kids where to school, but that is not the issue here.

It is whether transgendered boy will be allowed to play on girl teams... Not if they have to shower together, or share looker rooms, or pee infornt of each other, or get to wear dresses to school...ect.


As you both say, the real issue here is whether to allow a transgendered kid to play on the other sex's sports team. All this talk of locker rooms, bathroom, etc., is nothing but hysteria intended to cloud the issue.

Myself, I think the real issue is a valid one. Let's say, for example, a 6'4", 220lb. transgendered boy wants to play on the girl's basketball team. First of all, wouldn't that give an unfair advantage to that team over other girl's teams that don't have a similar big boy on their team? And what about the basketball loving girl who gets bumped off the team by the transgender? Is it fair to her?

I think it's a bad idea.
 
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It's time in America when all teens sleep with their parents.
 
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I haven't heard of this and didn't see anyone from a quick google, do you have a link?


montgomery county maryland has eliminated all references to christian holidays

so now there will be winter break, not christmas break

spring break, not easter break

and the muslims are the ones being blamed since they wanted their holiday also marked on the calendar

No religious holidays on Maryland district's calendar - CNN.com
 
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montgomery county maryland has eliminated all references to christian holidays

so now there will be winter break, not christmas break

spring break, not easter break

and the muslims are the ones being blamed since they wanted their holiday also marked on the calendar

No religious holidays on Maryland district's calendar - CNN.com

while it's off-topic on this thread, I agree with the school holidays being renamed, instead of having religious names. I think it's a shame they did this just because Muslims asked for their holiday to be on the calendar, but I think all public schools should do this.
 
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Really? You think high school boys are going to declare to their whole school that they are girls?

Did..did you go to high school?

Uhhhh ya I would of, no thinking would be required, at least with the brain on the shoulders anyhow. Helllllllloo nurse.:cool:
 
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while it's off-topic on this thread, I agree with the school holidays being renamed, instead of having religious names. I think it's a shame they did this just because Muslims asked for their holiday to be on the calendar, but I think all public schools should do this.

And we/they should eliminate all sports or groups that refer to gender. Get rid of all showers, training rooms, teams. Same concept.
In fact to take it one step farther, have all students wear robes like Obama was wearing in China.
Complete gender equality and neutrality.
 
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And we/they should eliminate all sports or groups that refer to gender. Get rid of all showers, training rooms, teams. Same concept.
In fact to take it one step farther, have all students wear robes like Obama was wearing in China.
Complete gender equality and neutrality.


This is literally the inmate running the asylum. Transgender disorder is a mental disease, yet, we are letting them tell all the normal folks how to behave.. It's insanity.. :)


Tim-
 
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You said "massive upsurge."

Because, for some reason, you think telling their peers they are transgender is something teenage boys would like to do.
Of course. They'll all know he's just saying he's transgender so he can take showers with the cheerleaders.
 
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montgomery county maryland has eliminated all references to christian holidays

so now there will be winter break, not christmas break

spring break, not easter break

and the muslims are the ones being blamed since they wanted their holiday also marked on the calendar

No religious holidays on Maryland district's calendar - CNN.com

I get the "spring break" thing, but the "christmas break" one always gets me.

Christmas is a Federally Recognized holiday. It's actually probably the best analog we have to the whole "marriage" debate". In modern society there is absolutely two seperate entities known as "Christmas"; the religious holiday Christmas, and the secular holiday Christmas. But that's probably starting a bit too far off the main conversation.

....also, I had a nice laugh at people getting offended by my south park reference.

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I definitely think the scare tactics tone of the article is off base, but I also think there's a legitimate argument that we're going way overboard in an attempt to accomodate an incredibly small minority in order to make them not feel uncomfortable, despite it potentially making others feel uncomfortable.
 
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