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Employment Situation Improves in October--Except for African Americans

Aside from you implying Obama had anything to do with the IRS scandal, what does President Obama have to do to explicitly help Black Americans get jobs?

The Private sector is improving, and more jobs becoming available for everyone. To simply blame the President for one ethnic not sharing that economic success. (That ironically shares a similar skin color) is erroneous, and at worst, dishonest.

Where was this narrative before the election?
 
This thread is funny... right wingers playing the race card to prove they are not racists and yet leave out rather critical information that actually goes a long way to prove that they do have a race problem.

Lets look at the states with the highest percentage black populations.

1. Mississippi.. GOP Governors since 2004.
2. Louisiana ... GOP Governors since 1996 with a 4 year break for a Democrat.
3. Georgia.. GOP Governors since 2003
4. Maryland.. Dem Governor since 2007, GOP before that.
5. South Carolina.. GOP Governor since 2003
6. Alabama.. GOP Governor since 2003
7. North Carolina.. Dem Governors

Point is that of the top 10, six of the states have had GOP governors at least the last half a decade, if not much longer. They also happen to be some of the poorest states with worst education standards and so on.

And yet the GOP blames Obama for the poor unemployment numbers among the black community... numbers that were also poor under Bush 2, Bush 1, and Reagan?.. but it is all Obamas fault.. because he is black or/and a Democrat?

Funny how when it comes to the economy, the GOP is all over that Texas and other red states have "great employment" creation because of their policies, and yet these same states in many cases have large black communities that are suffering high unemployment and yet that is Obamas fault, but the great job creation for white unemployed is not Obamas fault??

Then explain this... Texas has an unemployment number of 5.2% according to the numbers, where White unemployment is 3.9%.. but the black community in Texas is hurting with a 9.2% unemployment? Considering Texas has had a GOP governor for 2 decades plus, and the GOP has been calling it the "Texas miracle" and putting all the praise on themselves and their political leaders in Texas.. then why is the black unemployment in Texas almost 3 times the size of the white unemployment? That Obamas fault also?
 
I am not sure what the complaint here is?

Yes, unemployment remains stubbornly high among African Americans. So what do you think is the cause / solution?

1. The problem is systemic racism and thus no one will hire them.

Its obvious there are some racists out there, but I think they represent a pretty small minority of hiring managers.

But I would suggest that there is a bias against unskilled, under educated people who don't have a steady work history. As evidence I point to the fact that people who have been unemployed for longer periods seem to have a more difficult time finding jobs.

2. The problem is illegals / undocumented workers.

Most jobs I have seen obvious illegals working were roofing, day labor construction hands, landscaping, farm hands, and nannies. I don't think any of those jobs excluding farm hands and nannies were disproportionately historically held by blacks.

I don't know that jobs are restricted to certain segments of the population. If people had to work and those jobs were available, not taken by illegals, then they would be taken by those who need them and have a right to them legally.

3. The problem is welfare.

We don't have true welfare anymore. You can get it for a couple of years and your done. If you have children you can draw it longer, but even then its hardly a living. I mean hell if living in government projects with a 300 bucks or a so month in welfare is not an incentive to better yourself, then I don't know what is. Moreover, this whole notion that welfare creates an incentive for having kids they can't afford to take care of is pretty absurd when you consider the fact that having kids you can't take care of is a problem in virtually every third world country and virtually none of them have a welfare system. If welfare is the reason for blacks having kids they can't afford here in the USA, then why are they doing it in the DRC or Haiti??

I don't know where you get that. It may have had some truth during the 90's when there was a concerted effort to put welfare recipients to work but that all changed as one of the first things Pres. Obama did, to reduce or eliminate work requirements for welfare recipients.

I was in a Walmart not too long ago where there were lots of people trying to checkout with not enough clerks. The clerk said that they hire new clerks every week but many never show up for work but use being hired and fired as qualifying for another bout of welfare of some sort. And then there's the growing SSI rolls expanding.

So what is the solution? What are yall bitching about the president not doing about this? Do you want him to issue an executive order telling every unemployed African American to get the f*** to work? I mean really, what do you want to do about it?

The solution is more demand for jobs and less people who don't have to work jobs they may not want.
 
This thread is funny... right wingers playing the race card to prove they are not racists and yet leave out rather critical information that actually goes a long way to prove that they do have a race problem.

Lets look at the states with the highest percentage black populations.

1. Mississippi.. GOP Governors since 2004.
2. Louisiana ... GOP Governors since 1996 with a 4 year break for a Democrat.
3. Georgia.. GOP Governors since 2003
4. Maryland.. Dem Governor since 2007, GOP before that.
5. South Carolina.. GOP Governor since 2003
6. Alabama.. GOP Governor since 2003
7. North Carolina.. Dem Governors

Point is that of the top 10, six of the states have had GOP governors at least the last half a decade, if not much longer. They also happen to be some of the poorest states with worst education standards and so on.

And yet the GOP blames Obama for the poor unemployment numbers among the black community... numbers that were also poor under Bush 2, Bush 1, and Reagan?.. but it is all Obamas fault.. because he is black or/and a Democrat?

Funny how when it comes to the economy, the GOP is all over that Texas and other red states have "great employment" creation because of their policies, and yet these same states in many cases have large black communities that are suffering high unemployment and yet that is Obamas fault, but the great job creation for white unemployed is not Obamas fault??

Then explain this... Texas has an unemployment number of 5.2% according to the numbers, where White unemployment is 3.9%.. but the black community in Texas is hurting with a 9.2% unemployment? Considering Texas has had a GOP governor for 2 decades plus, and the GOP has been calling it the "Texas miracle" and putting all the praise on themselves and their political leaders in Texas.. then why is the black unemployment in Texas almost 3 times the size of the white unemployment? That Obamas fault also?

Yea. Texas. I guess it proves what happens when the President of the United States and his party welcome millions of foreign invaders to come and take jobs from Blacks.

Can't wait to see what the Black Community has to say should the President grant them all amnesty. My hope is they finally throw off the chains the liberal/progressive race baiting machine has had them shackled with for decades, and they seek their own future without them being told they can't have one.

Of course I could also throw in California, a single party state firmly in the hands of liberal/progressives for many many years. Highest poverty rate in the Nation, and unemployment in the Black communities in the double digits. I guess that would be your model?
 
The central problem for higher levels of unemployment and poverty in the inner city is kids having kids. This leads to absentee fathers, less education, higher crime, and just lower levels of opportunity in the community.

Yet the social conservatives, the ones right now complaining about Obama when it comes to high levels of black unemployment, have fought every attempt to reduce this:

Comprehensive Sex Education in school, they fight it, they only want Abstinence only Education.
Providing Contraceptives in Schools, they fight it with the absurd argument that kids won't have sex if you don't give them condoms.

Until you want to get with the program on actually reducing unplanned pregnancies and teen pregnancies in inner city communities, quite bitching about high levels of unemployment in those same communities.
 
Aside from you implying Obama had anything to do with the IRS scandal, what does President Obama have to do to explicitly help Black Americans get jobs?

The Private sector is improving, and more jobs becoming available for everyone. To simply blame the President for one ethnic not sharing that economic success. (That ironically shares a similar skin color) is erroneous, and at worst, dishonest.


Actually, the private sector is still struggling with a economy thats still on life support.

Why are interest rates still so low if the economy is improving dramatically ?

New part time jobs that aren't even keeping up with population and median income levels still below 2007 levels with Higher poverty and a record low labor participation rate is a far better indicator than the lefts assertions that we're in the Middle of a strong recovery.

Wait until the Business mandates of Obama Care kick in. Thaat will snuff out what little lifes left in the worst recovery since WWII.
 
The central problem for higher levels of unemployment and poverty in the inner city is kids having kids. This leads to absentee fathers, less education, higher crime, and just lower levels of opportunity in the community.

Yet the social conservatives, the ones right now complaining about Obama when it comes to high levels of black unemployment, have fought every attempt to reduce this:

Comprehensive Sex Education in school, they fight it, they only want Abstinence only Education.
Providing Contraceptives in Schools, they fight it with the absurd argument that kids won't have sex if you don't give them condoms.

Until you want to get with the program on actually reducing unplanned pregnancies and teen pregnancies in inner city communities, quite bitching about high levels of unemployment in those same communities.

Amazing.
 

So you are disputing the fact that unwed mothers and teen pregnancies are quite possibly the central cause of poverty in the inner cities?

The only serious conservative attempt to address the problem was the Bush Admin had a program of marriage education classes for low income families. Of course, it failed.

http://www.npr.org/2012/09/13/161017580/can-marriage-save-single-mothers-from-poverty

The problem is you can't put together a successful marriage when the parents are in their teens and a in many cases a grandparent is raising the kids. You have to promote planned pregnancies and delaying having kids until you have an education. Its a brutal cycle. Poverty leads to teen pregnancies and unwed mothers which then leads to more poverty. It didn't start with Obama. In fact it was as bad if not worse when the guy on your avatar was in office too.
 
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So you are disputing the fact that unwed mothers and teen pregnancies are quite possibly the central cause of poverty in the inner cities?

The only serious conservative attempt to address the problem was the Bush Admin had a program of marriage education classes for low income families. Of course, it failed.

Can Marriage Save Single Mothers From Poverty? : NPR

The problem is you can't put together a successful marriage when the parents are in their teens and a in many cases a grandparent is raising the kids. You have to promote planned pregnancies and delaying having kids until you have an education. Its a brutal cycle. Poverty leads to teen pregnancies and unwed mothers which then leads to more poverty. It didn't start with Obama. In fact it was as bad if not worse when the guy on your avatar was in office too.

Its almost like kids just randomly pop up, who's responsible? Is it a good idea to pretend all thats missing is another govt program and handout?
 
Wow, for a progressive that's pretty harsh.

Since when do "progressives" believe that the private sector can or will create jobs, that it's the sole domain of a benevolent government?

Here's a news flash, me and a lot of people have created a **** load of jobs for a lot of workers, but I have never, never will create a job for a black person, or any other minority progressives claim they care for. What you pukes do is buy votes with other people's money. The only jobs you create are glorified community organizers who never have to make payroll, hire or fire, and never have to look into the eyes of a worker and friend and tell him there is no more work because some progressive asshole has decided his job has to go to a black, or that it's going to be a bleak winter because some other progressive asshole has ****ed up the economy..again.

You seem nice.
 
One reason black unemployment is so bad is because it's very hard to get a job once you've been released from prison, and blacks have been disproportionately incarcerated (and quite often given harsher sentences for the same crimes as whites) for decades.
 
Yup, it's all Obama's fault. :roll:
 
One reason black unemployment is so bad is because it's very hard to get a job once you've been released from prison, and blacks have been disproportionately incarcerated (and quite often given harsher sentences for the same crimes as whites) for decades.

Kobie, many of the drug laws that hit minority communities the hardest were passed by black politicians. Party of the problem is that liberalism hurts the people they "claim" to help the most.
 
Kobie, many of the drug laws that hit minority communities the hardest were passed by black politicians. Party of the problem is that liberalism hurts the people they "claim" to help the most.

Any evidence at all that this statement is actually true?
 
, many of the drug laws that hit minority communities the hardest were passed by black politicians. Party of the problem is that liberalism hurts the people they "claim" to help the most.

That statement shows a fundamental lack of knowledge regarding drug prohibition and how it came to fruition. Seriously.
 
Kobie, there are numerous examples, just google it. Im sure your are going to get right on that.

You made the claim.

There is quite literally nothing you won't try to handwave away as All Liberals' Fault.
 
Because its not requested for any actual insight, Kobie has wasted my time in the past. He's been a time burglar.

LOL. Yes, asking that you back up your incredibly specious claims is "wasting your time."
 
Ive stated a fact that is readily verifiable. However, I wont spoon feed.

So you want me to do your work for you? Christ, you're lazy -- both intellectually and otherwise, apparently.
 
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