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NAACP Releases Statement On 2014 Elections, But No Mention Of Mia Love Or Tim Scott

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TurtleDude said:
I think what you are saying is that black leaders are better served by Democrat politicians than Republican ones
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I don't know about 'better served' but black leaders do seem to lean democrat.
 
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ecofarm said:
Why isn't your argument that the bottom 20% of acceptances are lowering the standards? Why specify just the blacks of that group?
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nice dodge-is the 15th fastest sprinter more qualified to get one of the three olympic spots over men with faster times

is a black with a 3.2 average and a 85th percentile LSAT score more qualified for the last seat at Michigan Law school over 400 whites with 3.7 GPAs and 98th percentile LSAT scores?

does a school that has an average successful applicant of 3.2 and an 85th LSAT percentile have lower standards compared to one where the average successful applicant has a 3.7 GPA and a 98th percentile score?
 
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Moot said:
I don't know about 'better served' but black leaders do seem to lean democrat.
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of course they do-keeping their flock dependent on government and blaming black failures on "racism" gives them more power
 
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TurtleDude said:
LOL that is a complete lie

the standards for blacks gaining acceptance at major league law schools under affirmative action were generally

.5 points lower on the GPA meaning a black with a 3.2 was treated the same as a white or asian with a 3.7

and back in the day of the 800 LSAT score, 130 points on the LSAT meaning a black with a 645 was treated the same as someone like me who had a 785 score

those are lowered standards.
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So what you're saying is that there is a possibility that Tim Scott and Mia Love are the products of affirmative action?
 
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TurtleDude said:
nice dodge-
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It's not a dodge, it's a fact. Instead of claiming the bottom 20% are lowering the standards, you specify only blacks within that group.

There will always be acceptances at the lower end of standards. Claiming that people let in at the lower end of standards are lowering the standards is dishonest. The standard is not lowered, it is met.

And, while we're looking at this honestly, let's remember that there are qualifications other than gpa and sat which add to those.
 
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Hatuey said:
So what you're saying is that there is a possibility that Tim Scott and Mia Love are the products of affirmative action?
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in voting I don't think it comes into play as much since there is no real objective standards. what makes someone objectively qualified or more qualified to be elected? the one who gets the most votes
 
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ecofarm said:
It's not a dodge, it's a fact. Instead of claiming the bottom 20% are lowering the standards, you specify only blacks within that group.

The standard is not lowered, it is met. And there will always be acceptances at the lower end of those standards. Claiming that people let in at the lower end of standards are lowering those standards is dishonest.
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saying letting someone jump past people with higher credentials does not lower standards is a flat out lie

there is no other way to put it
 
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This does not surprise, sadly. The NAACP is just a outbranch of this country's major socialist party.
 
Re: NAACP Releases Statement On 2014 Elections, But No Mention Of Mia Love Or Tim Sco

Now why would they? Love and Scott are Republicans. The NAACP is a black Democratic Organization. It was not always that way, not under its original leadership, but it has become just another Democratic Party Organization much like NOW has.

I do not blame them, but I am more curious if the Congressional Black Caucus will allow Love and Scott to join. The CBC told J.C. Watts when he won, he could join but not attend their meetings. The CBC is another Democratic Party Organization.

Now there is nothing wrong with being a Democratic Party Organization, both parties have them. But I think the three I mention should own up to it. But that is me.
 
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Moot said:
The intent of the NAACP is to lobby for black causes and Democrats are more receptive than Republicans. You may not like it...but Blacks are allowed to organize in this country
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:lol: yeah. that's why they support school choice, eh? Blacks overwhelmingly want it and so obviously the NAACP is all about it, right?
 
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Perotista said:
Now why would they? Love and Scott are Republicans. The NAACP is a black Democratic Organization. It was not always that way, not under its original leadership, but it has become just another Democratic Party Organization much like NOW has.

I do not blame them, but I am more curious if the Congressional Black Caucus will allow Love and Scott to join. The CBC told J.C. Watts when he won, he could join but not attend their meetings. The CBC is another Democratic Party Organization.

Now there is nothing wrong with being a Democratic Party Organization, both parties have them. But I think the three I mention should own up to it. But that is me.
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Democrat presumption of ownership is sad, but not nearly so sad as their enablers :(
 
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Tim Scott and Mia Love were elected by whites to represent their values....not blacks or the NAACPs.


So why aren't Scott and Love supporting the NAACP?
 
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Moot said:
Tim Scott and Mia Love were elected by whites to represent their values....not blacks or the NAACPs.


So why aren't Scott and Love supporting the NAACP?
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So what are "White Values" and what are "black values"? Can one be a black person and not support the NAACP or is that taboo?
 
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TurtleDude said:
saying letting someone jump past people with higher credentials does not lower standards is a flat out lie

there is no other way to put it
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But they have higher credentials, because universities value diversity and addressing systemic privilege to provide opportunity to those deserving but held back by systemic privilege.

Let's face it, you're just trying to claim blacks harm the university system. And you do so very dishonestly. Let's look at some of the obvious ways that your claim of blacks harming society are false:


1. The standards are met, not lowered.
2. Whites make up the majority of the bottom 20%, but you only claim the blacks are lowering standards.
3. Diversity is valuable to a university, it increases the quality of the product.
4. Addressing systemic privilege is valuable to a university, it provides opportunities for those held back by systemic privilege.
5. Things other than gpa and sat establish the creds of an applicant.


So, let's stop singling out blacks from among the bottom 20% and let's stop pretending that meeting the standards is lowering the standards.
 
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Moot said:
NAACP gives Senator Tim Scott a failing grade - WCIV-TV | ABC News 4 - Charleston News, Sports, Weather
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There is a vast difference between opposing everything that we stand for and not supporting a desired agenda (checklist of desired legislative changes).

"I think only a couple of times maybe one or two, he voted with what the organization perceived as in line with the organization's agenda," said Darby.
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It seems to me that being a demorat is somewhat of a requirement for passing that NAACP "agenda" test. In other words, if you are not for our agenda then you are against us.
 
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ecofarm said:
But they have higher credentials, because universities value diversity and addressing systemic privilege to provide opportunity to those deserving but held back by systemic privilege.

Let's face it, you're just trying to claim blacks harm the university system. And you do so very dishonestly. Let's look at some of the obvious ways that your claim of blacks harming society are false:


1. The standards are met, not lowered.
2. Whites make up the majority of the bottom 20%, but you only claim the blacks are lowering standards.
3. Diversity is valuable to a university, it increases the quality of the product.
4. Addressing systemic privilege is valuable to a university, it provides opportunities for those held back by systemic privilege.
5. Things other than gpa and sat establish the creds of an applicant.


So, let's stop singling out blacks from among the bottom 20% and let's stop pretending that meeting the standards is lowering the standards.
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I merely said they had lower objective standards

nothing more noting less and you cannot get around your silly claim that accepting B students with lower boards ahead of A students with higher boards does not LOWER standards.

Diversity is not an objective value btw

the fact is=blacks get into schools with lower scores than whites. they have lower admission standards

and that is not subject to any dispute

later
 
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TurtleDude said:
in voting I don't think it comes into play as much since there is no real objective standards. what makes someone objectively qualified or more qualified to be elected? the one who gets the most votes
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I should have specified. Do you believe Mia Love and Tim Scott could have benefited from affirmative action in their academic careers?
 
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TurtleDude said:
I merely said they had lower objective standards
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Your "objective" standards are not. Systemic privilege exists, and that skews the scores of minorities.

Anyway, why do you only specify blacks among the bottom 20% of acceptances when they are a small minority of it? Shouldn't we be talking about how whites "lower" the standards, since they are the majority of the bottom 20%?
 
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ecofarm said:
Your "objective" standards are not. Systemic privilege exists, and that skews the scores of minorities.

Anyway, why do you only specify blacks among the bottom 20% when they are a small minority of it?
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Is this the "tests are too white" argument?
 
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Hatuey said:
I should have specified. Do you believe Mia Love and Tim Scott could have benefited from affirmative action in their academic careers?
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That only counts if one is a democrat.

How often have we heard that Obama is merely a product of AA. But we sure don't hear that about republican blacks.
 
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ReverendHellh0und said:
Is this the "tests are too white" argument?
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It's the "systemic privilege exists" argument.
 
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ecofarm said:
But they have higher credentials, because universities value diversity and addressing systemic privilege to provide opportunity to those deserving but held back by systemic privilege.

Let's face it, you're just trying to claim blacks harm the university system. And you do so very dishonestly. Let's look at some of the obvious ways that your claim of blacks harming society are false:


1. The standards are met, not lowered.
2. Whites make up the majority of the bottom 20%, but you only claim the blacks are lowering standards.
3. Diversity is valuable to a university, it increases the quality of the product.
4. Addressing systemic privilege is valuable to a university, it provides opportunities for those held back by systemic privilege.
5. Things other than gpa and sat establish the creds of an applicant.


So, let's stop singling out blacks from among the bottom 20% and let's stop pretending that meeting the standards is lowering the standards.
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That (bolded above) must explain the constant push for left/right, liberal/conservative diversity at these fine institutions - proven to be so by the make-up of their own staff. Let us not judge (diversity?) by the content of one's character but by the color of their skin. ;)
 
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ttwtt78640 said:
That (bolded above) must explain the constant push for left/right, liberal/conservative diversity at these fine institutions - proven to be so by the make-up of their own staff. Let us not judge (diversity?) by the content of one's character but by the color of their skin. ;)
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You have no idea how diversity is valuable to a university and its students, do you.
 
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ecofarm said:
It's the "systemic privilege exists" argument.
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You just suggested that tests are more geared for whites. did I misunderstand you?
 
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ReverendHellh0und said:
You just suggested that tests are more geared for whites. did I misunderstand you?
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Do you not understand what systemic privilege means, or do you deny the existence of it.
 
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