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School's Nation of Islam handout paints Founding Fathers as racists [W:293]

Apdst, you don't get it do you? You defended his position and credentials - which are from a website full of propaganda - in this thread and you were called on it by another member:

http://www.debatepolitics.com/2012-...e-license-plates-texas-25.html#post1059936888

Now the websites he posted on are full of white nationalist propaganda. Does that not seem a bit ironic, that you, who is impervious to propaganda, would be caught up on a website full of their propaganda? Or was that different and not part of any particular brainwashing? I mean - you continue to utter certain white nationalist type of phrases. You've made your hatred of Muslims no secret. You've alluded that Jews too have fallen under the wing of propaganda. You've even gone as far as calling George Soros, who committed no crime - a... Nazi. Yet you, an outstanding fellow, have not fallen under the ruse of any type of propaganda. Isn't that a bit odd to you? Again, what you posted after to redeem yourself is not what's in question here. It's the fact that you posted a link full of propaganda yourself and yet somehow weren't swayed by it. I find it that astonishing.

Why are you insisting Henry Gates is a racist? Do you still believe there were no black slave owners?
 
Why are you insisting Henry Gates is a racist? Do you still believe there were no black slave owners?

Lol, apdst, you're not really understanding what the question here is do you? I asked you about the fact that you cited Robert M. Groom (whose work you seem to be quite familiar with). I didn't ask you about the content you cited. I asked you about the environment it hailed from. The fact that the website hailed from a white nationalist is accidental to the fact that it's from a website full of propaganda. However, if you'd like more evidence that you regularly post from or about websites riddled with propaganda:

Actually, Cain's participation lends alot of credibility to WND.
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Governer, your can of worms,

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And the religion of peaces begins it's campaign to kill Americans. I guess this guy is just in the process of snapping. Must be a long, slow process.

There are 4 examples of you posting from a website which is bombarded with propaganda. Does that type of propaganda not have any type of effect on you? Or is their propaganda not propaganda at all? Remember, you're citing a birther story, stating that disgraced serial sexual molester Herman Cain brings legitimacy to WND and then saying the head of CAIR is telling people to attack others. Does this type of propaganda not affect you at all?
 
Lol, apdst, you're not really understanding what the question here is do you? I asked you about the fact that you cited Robert M. Groom (whose work you seem to be quite familiar with). I didn't ask you about the content you cited. I asked you about the environment it hailed from. The fact that the website hailed from a white nationalist is accidental to the fact that it's from a website full of propaganda. However, if you'd like more evidence that you regularly post from or about websites riddled with propaganda:






There are 4 examples of you posting from a website which is bombarded with propaganda. Does that type of propaganda not have any type of effect on you? Or is their propaganda not propaganda at all? Remember, you're citing a birther story, stating that disgraced serial sexual molester Herman Cain brings legitimacy to WND and then saying the head of CAIR is telling people to attack others. Does this type of propaganda not affect you at all?

You asked for proof of black slave owners. I gave you a crappy source. I gave you better source. What say you, now? Because, like it, or not, the thread isn't about me. Are you ready to admit defeat, yet?
 
You asked for proof of black slave owners.

Nope, I did not. Actually, I wasn't even involved in that conversation at all.

I gave you a crappy source. I gave you better source. What say you, now? Because, like it, or not, the thread isn't about me. Are you ready to admit defeat, yet?

You don't understand yet? Okay, I'll make it easier now:

1. You've demonstrated a pattern of sourcing from websites riddled with propaganda (white nationalists, WNDs, holocaust denial)
2. The question now is: Do you believe you are affected by the propaganda from those websites or does their propaganda not affect you at all?

Please try and keep up.
 
Nope, I did not. Actually, I wasn't even involved in that conversation at all.



You don't understand yet? Okay, I'll make it easier now:

1. You've demonstrated a pattern of sourcing from websites riddled with propaganda (white nationalists, WNDs, holocaust denial)
2. The question now is: Do you believe you are affected by the propaganda from those websites or does their propaganda not affect you at all?

Please try and keep up.

You're desperate to counter my arguments, that you jave launch raging personal attacks. It's all any of you Liberals have. What a waste.
 
You're desperate to counter my arguments, that you jave launch raging personal attacks. It's all any of you Liberals have. What a waste.

Apdst, why don't you answer the question? You seem to post from websites riddled with right wing propaganda regularly. Does that no affect you at all? Be honest ;)
 
Apdst, why don't you answer the question? You seem to post from websites riddled with right wing propaganda regularly. Does that no affect you at all? Be honest ;)

If your arguments weren't so weak, you wouldn't have to engage in these attacks.
 
If your arguments weren't so weak, you wouldn't have to engage in these attacks.

Apdst, do you believe questions are a form of attack? Is it because you can't answer them?
 
Apdst, do you believe questions are a form of attack? Is it because you can't answer them?

I'm making a rue, pal. I'm going to have to catch you another time.
 
Smaller government, more freedoms, more jobs? Who wouldn't want that?

And the Republicans have done zero to provide any of those things in the last, oh, my entire lifetime (at least).

The Republicans can crow all they want about "smaller government and more freedoms." And they've proven over the last several decades to be entirely full of ****.
 
Smaller government, more freedoms, more jobs? Who wouldn't want that?

The first part I'm against, the second and third parts come down to perception of progress.
 
And the Republicans have done zero to provide any of those things in the last, oh, my entire lifetime (at least).

The Republicans can crow all they want about "smaller government and more freedoms." And they've proven over the last several decades to be entirely full of ****.

You must think the Democrats are REALLY full of ****, then.
 
You must think the Democrats are REALLY full of ****, then.

I think both parties are full of ****. I've said this repeatedly. I think the Democrats are very bad; I think the Republicans are a goddamn travesty.
 
No, no. We were brainwashed. That makes Republicans feel better about having ****ty candidates. I wonder how Jewish people vote?
Do you believe that Jewish people can't be just as foolish as anyone else?
 
I think both parties are full of ****. I've said this repeatedly. I think the Democrats are very bad; I think the Republicans are a goddamn travesty.

You seem to always come up short when criticizing Democrats.
 
I'm not interested in the Nation of Islam or Louis Farakan, or Your Black Muslim Bakery etc etc. I'm making the point that human history shows that religion creates violence. So if you're going to yell about Muslims then Chrtistians should look in the mirror as well.
You find that there are a lot of Christian terrorists these days? Check out the Muslim reference in the OP and see if there is any connection.
And that crack about the founding fathers is just silly. To that I can say, so, you support slavery and racism then...
In fact it's fair comment, though perhaps unfair to you. Do you feel that atheists would be better at running the world?
 
But...but....that demonstrates that Black people can be just as bad, or as good, as White people. Is that possible?

Notice how that link was ignored?
 
Lol... for one being a known historical revisionist who posts on holocaust denial websites often. We all know how devoid of propaganda those are. The best part is that he's actually been removed from Wikipedia because his "work" is only posted in white supremacists websites. No propaganda there, right? Tell us all about how white supremacist websites you get some of your articles from, aren't full of propaganda. Like... this one:

http://www.resist.com/positions/History.html
DIXIE'S CENSORED SUBJECT Black Slave Owners by Robert M Grooms

No propaganda on those websites? Right apdst? ;)
To demonstrate that is is propaganda, and it may well be, you need to present counter evidence. Do you have that? Your beliefs won't suffice.
 
You asked for proof of black slave owners. I gave you a crappy source. I gave you better source. What say you, now? Because, like it, or not, the thread isn't about me. Are you ready to admit defeat, yet?

He's concerned about the 'environment" on which your facts are based, not the facts themselves.

This abstruse attitude is not uncommon among most environmentalists.
 
I think both parties are full of ****. I've said this repeatedly. I think the Democrats are very bad; I think the Republicans are a goddamn travesty.

Quite the hipster.
 
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