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101st Airborne Won’t Get Full Protective Hazmat Suits for Ebola Mission in West Afric

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MMC said:
So much for you video tape BS huh or transmsitted by thoughts. "What happened" with the all knowing left BS that tries very hard in not researching **** out. :lol:

Do yous talk.....just to hear sounds coming out from your mouths? :lamo


The report goes on to note that any action which can be taken to “reduce risk” of Ebola exposure should not wait until a “scientific certainty” develops. “The minimum level of protection in high-risk settings should be a respirator with an assigned protection factor greater than 10. A powered air-purifying respirator (PAPR) with a hood or helmet offers many advantages over an N95 filtering facepiece or similar respirator, being more protective, comfortable, and cost-effective in the long run,” the report also adds.

The working theory about Ebola transmission from the CDC and the agency’s director Thomas Frieden, is incorrect and “outmoded” according to the report.“Virus-laden bodily fluids may be aerosolized and inhaled while a person is in proximity to an infectious person and that a wide range of particle sizes can be inhaled and deposited throughout the respiratory tract,” University researchers concluded.

Read more at Ebola Believed To Be Potentially Airborne, Researchers Claim
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Your source is horrifically bad.
 
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mak2 said:
The "reseracher" doesnt even use the correct termnology, but it appears that was intentional.

Airborne vs. Droplet Precautions - pg.2 | allnurses


Droplet --- requires close contact (typically within 3 feet or less) between the source client and a susceptible person.
Use of a standard surgical mask within 3 feet of the client is required.

Respiratory droplets are generated when an infected person coughs, sneezes, or talks, or during procedures such as suctioning, endotracheal intubation, cough induction by chest physiotherapy and cardiopulmonary resuscitation.

Airborne --- microorganisms dispersed over long distances that remain infective over time and distance.
Infectious agents remain active in the air over a long period of time and are dispersed over long distances by air currents, which are inhaled by susceptible individuals.

Preventing the spread of airborne pathogens requires the use of special air handling and ventilation systems wearing respiratory protection with NIOSH-certified N95 or higher level respirator for all health care workers.
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Background information detailing why these experts believes the CDC and WHO are functioning under an outdated mode of thought when it comes to how infectious diseases are transmitted via aerosols is also included in the new report. Medical and infection control professionals have relied for years on a paradigm for aerosol transmission of infectious diseases based on very outmoded research and an overly simplistic interpretation of the data. In the 1940s and 50s, William F. Wells and other ‘aerobiologists’ employed now significantly out-of-date sampling methods (eg, settling plates) and very blunt analytic approaches (eg, cell culturing) to understand the movement of bacterial aerosols in healthcare and other settings. Their work, though groundbreaking at the time, provides a very incomplete picture,” the report said.

According to researchers, early aerobiologists were unable to measure small particles near an infected person and therefore made an assumption that such particles existed on far from the source and airborne transmission could have happened around 3-feet or so from the source.....snip~

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Horrific is not adequate.
Kobie said:
Your source is horrifically bad.
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There is an amazing amount of research in Infection Control. Article intended to be scary.
MMC said:
Background information detailing why these experts believes the CDC and WHO are functioning under an outdated mode of thought when it comes to how infectious diseases are transmitted via aerosols is also included in the new report. Medical and infection control professionals have relied for years on a paradigm for aerosol transmission of infectious diseases based on very outmoded research and an overly simplistic interpretation of the data. In the 1940s and 50s, William F. Wells and other ‘aerobiologists’ employed now significantly out-of-date sampling methods (eg, settling plates) and very blunt analytic approaches (eg, cell culturing) to understand the movement of bacterial aerosols in healthcare and other settings. Their work, though groundbreaking at the time, provides a very incomplete picture,” the report said.

According to researchers, early aerobiologists were unable to measure small particles near an infected person and therefore made an assumption that such particles existed on far from the source and airborne transmission could have happened around 3-feet or so from the source.....snip~

Read more at Ebola Believed To Be Potentially Airborne, Researchers Claim
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Kobie said:
Your source is horrifically bad.
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Yeah.....I figure you or someone from the left would go with the usual easy excuses first. Next will be spelling huh?


Doctor: 'Reliable Evidence' Ebola Can Go Airborne.....


Despite the government’s denials, there is reliable evidence that the Ebola virus may be airborne, retired neurosurgeon and author Dr. Russell Blaylock said Tuesday on Newsmax TV's “America’s Forum.” “It's a viral organism and at first it was only spread by fluid, body fluids,” he said. “So you had to come in contact with the body or get some of the fluids, serum or blood, in order to contract it. It was not airborne. "There's evidence now from a Canadian study that in fact it may be airborne and what they do is they separate animals and they infect one group of animals and see if it will spread to the isolated other ones that are exposed to the air, and it did spread," Blaylock said. "Now the U.S. doctors are saying that they don't believe that, but the Canadian study was very well done and it's sort of irrefutable evidence.”

“When we first had Ebola appear in Africa, they did a pretty good job of quarantining and it didn't really spread,” he said. “But this time, unfortunately, they let it get out. Families were invading areas that they were told not to go into because they wanted to see their loved ones the last time, and they underestimated the virus itself because they were wearing these HazMat suits and protective gear, but the virus still spread to them.”.....snip~


Read Latest Breaking News from Newsmax.com Doctor: 'Reliable Evidence' Ebola Can Go Airborne
 
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mak2 said:
There is an amazing amount of research in Infection Control. Article intended to be scary.
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It's like a big part of conservative America is TRYING to kickstart a panic.
 
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MMC said:
Yeah.....I figure you or someone from the left would go with the usual easy excuses first. Next will be spelling huh?


Doctor: 'Reliable Evidence' Ebola Can Go Airborne.....


Despite the government’s denials, there is reliable evidence that the Ebola virus may be airborne, retired neurosurgeon and author Dr. Russell Blaylock said Tuesday on Newsmax TV's “America’s Forum.” “It's a viral organism and at first it was only spread by fluid, body fluids,” he said. “So you had to come in contact with the body or get some of the fluids, serum or blood, in order to contract it. It was not airborne. "There's evidence now from a Canadian study that in fact it may be airborne and what they do is they separate animals and they infect one group of animals and see if it will spread to the isolated other ones that are exposed to the air, and it did spread," Blaylock said. "Now the U.S. doctors are saying that they don't believe that, but the Canadian study was very well done and it's sort of irrefutable evidence.”

“When we first had Ebola appear in Africa, they did a pretty good job of quarantining and it didn't really spread,” he said. “But this time, unfortunately, they let it get out. Families were invading areas that they were told not to go into because they wanted to see their loved ones the last time, and they underestimated the virus itself because they were wearing these HazMat suits and protective gear, but the virus still spread to them.”.....snip~


Read Latest Breaking News from Newsmax.com Doctor: 'Reliable Evidence' Ebola Can Go Airborne
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That's nice.

Newsmax is to legitimate information as Twinkies are to nutrition. It's a right-wing slander box.

According to Google, Dr. Russell Blaylock also believes in chemtrails. He's a frequent Alex Jones guest. He's a crackpot.
 
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It is not "like" they are. They definately are. I listened to Rush while mowing my lawn last week. He does everything but say it is airborne, then he does that stupid "hummmmm" so he can say he isnt really saying it, but the dittoheads know. Very very irresponsible use of the airwaves. I live in a very conservobot area, fox is on in most bars along with ESPN, and anytime I hear Rush talk about something it is going arond that night. I spend a little time at the local legion too and I bet I have had a dozen people ask me what they can do about ebola. I tell them to get their flu shots, cause that is a thousand times (at least) more likely to kill them than ebola. More than one have actually gotten mad at me, telling me how I dont know what I am talking about.
Kobie said:
It's like a big part of conservative America is TRYING to kickstart a panic.
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mak2 said:
It is not "like" they are. They definately are. I listened to Rush while mowing my lawn last week. He does everything but say it is airborne, then he does that stupid "hummmmm" so he can say he isnt really saying it, but the dittoheads know. Very very irresponsible use of the airwaves. I live in a very conservobot area, fox is on in most bars along with ESPN, and anytime I hear Rush talk about something it is going arond that night. I spend a little time at the local legion too and I bet I have had a dozen people ask me what they can do about ebola. I tell them to get their flu shots, cause that is a thousand times (at least) more likely to kill them than ebola. More than one have actually gotten mad at me, telling me how I dont know what I am talking about.
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Lol I know man. It's fully intentional.

No right-winger here will ever admit they listen to Rush.
 
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Yea, I have said on other fourms, or maybe this one I dont remember, it seems to me Rush makes those bizillions of dollars becaue I listen to him. I am the only one that admits it.
Kobie said:
Lol I know man. It's fully intentional.

No right-winger here will ever admit they listen to Rush.
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mak2 said:
Yea, I have said on other fourms, or maybe this one I dont remember, it seems to me Rush makes those bizillions of dollars becaue I listen to him. I am the only one that admits it.
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You're a more patient man than I.
 
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Kobie said:
It's like a big part of conservative America is TRYING to kickstart a panic.
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Obozo is doing that all by his lonesome.
 
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CRUE CAB said:
Any excuse to apologize for Obama.
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Any excuse to freak out over a nonexistent threat.
 
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Kobie said:
That's nice.

Newsmax is to legitimate information as Twinkies are to nutrition. It's a right-wing slander box.

According to Google, Dr. Russell Blaylock also believes in chemtrails. He's a frequent Alex Jones guest. He's a crackpot.
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Yeah he is a frequent guest on a lot of health shows to.....so what, he is just citing what others knew about the Canadian study. Why does the MS Media give him interviews if he was a crackpot. Seems that lame ass excuse you always USE ABOUT SOURCES just wont be acceptable......now!


Top Doctors: Ebola May Become Airborne … And May ALREADY Be Transmissible Via Aerosols.....


Michael T. Osterholm – director of the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy at the University of Minnesota – wrote in the New York Times last month:


Viruses like Ebola are notoriously sloppy in replicating, meaning the virus entering one person may be genetically different from the virus entering the next. The current Ebola virus’s hyper-evolution is unprecedented; there has been more human-to-human transmission in the past four months than most likely occurred in the last 500 to 1,000 years. Each new infection represents trillions of throws of the genetic dice. If certain mutations occurred, it would mean that just breathing would put one at risk of contracting Ebola. Infections could spread quickly to every part of the globe, as the H1N1 influenza virus did in 2009, after its birth in Mexico. Why are public officials afraid to discuss this? They don’t want to be accused of screaming “Fire!” in a crowded theater — as I’m sure some will accuse me of doing. But the risk is real, and until we consider it, the world will not be prepared to do what is necessary to end the epidemic.

In 2012, a team of Canadian researchers proved that Ebola Zaire, the same virus that is causing the West Africa outbreak, could be transmitted by the respiratory route from pigs to monkeys, both of whose lungs are very similar to those of humans. Richard Preston’s 1994 best seller “The Hot Zone” chronicled a 1989 outbreak of a different strain, Ebola Reston virus, among monkeys at a quarantine station near Washington. The virus was transmitted through breathing, and the outbreak ended only when all the monkeys were euthanized. We must consider that such transmissions could happen between humans, if the virus mutates.....snip~

Top Doctors: Ebola May Become Airborne ? And May ALREADY Be Transmissible Via Aerosols
 
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mak2 said:
It is not "like" they are. They definately are. I listened to Rush while mowing my lawn last week. He does everything but say it is airborne, then he does that stupid "hummmmm" so he can say he isnt really saying it, but the dittoheads know. Very very irresponsible use of the airwaves. I live in a very conservobot area, fox is on in most bars along with ESPN, and anytime I hear Rush talk about something it is going arond that night. I spend a little time at the local legion too and I bet I have had a dozen people ask me what they can do about ebola. I tell them to get their flu shots, cause that is a thousand times (at least) more likely to kill them than ebola. More than one have actually gotten mad at me, telling me how I dont know what I am talking about.
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So how ya doing the with former CIDRAP who is at the University of Minnesota? Did you hear him talking to Rush Limbaugh in your dreams too?


Just why again was the UN WHO director saying if it Ebola was not checked FAST Enough......that it could go Airborne.


Why would he said if not brought under control.....Fast Enough? Did that part about fast enough.....not click on that little light so that ya don't keep hearing Rush Limbaugh?
 
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It is also possible for AIDS to become airborne in hte same way and just as likely. Why not all the stupid hysteria over airborne aids over the last 30 or 40 years? The soruce is pitiful and intended merely to cause hysterics.
MMC said:
Yeah he is a frequent guest on a lot of health shows to.....so what, he is just citing what others knew about the Canadian study. Why does the MS Media give him interviews if he was a crackpot. Seems that lame ass excuse you always USE ABOUT SOURCES just wont be acceptable......now!


Top Doctors: Ebola May Become Airborne … And May ALREADY Be Transmissible Via Aerosols.....


Michael T. Osterholm – director of the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy at the University of Minnesota – wrote in the New York Times last month:


Viruses like Ebola are notoriously sloppy in replicating, meaning the virus entering one person may be genetically different from the virus entering the next. The current Ebola virus’s hyper-evolution is unprecedented; there has been more human-to-human transmission in the past four months than most likely occurred in the last 500 to 1,000 years. Each new infection represents trillions of throws of the genetic dice. If certain mutations occurred, it would mean that just breathing would put one at risk of contracting Ebola. Infections could spread quickly to every part of the globe, as the H1N1 influenza virus did in 2009, after its birth in Mexico. Why are public officials afraid to discuss this? They don’t want to be accused of screaming “Fire!” in a crowded theater — as I’m sure some will accuse me of doing. But the risk is real, and until we consider it, the world will not be prepared to do what is necessary to end the epidemic.

In 2012, a team of Canadian researchers proved that Ebola Zaire, the same virus that is causing the West Africa outbreak, could be transmitted by the respiratory route from pigs to monkeys, both of whose lungs are very similar to those of humans. Richard Preston’s 1994 best seller “The Hot Zone” chronicled a 1989 outbreak of a different strain, Ebola Reston virus, among monkeys at a quarantine station near Washington. The virus was transmitted through breathing, and the outbreak ended only when all the monkeys were euthanized. We must consider that such transmissions could happen between humans, if the virus mutates.....snip~

Top Doctors: Ebola May Become Airborne ? And May ALREADY Be Transmissible Via Aerosols
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MMC said:
Yeah he is a frequent guest on a lot of health shows to.....so what, he is just citing what others knew about the Canadian study. Why does the MS Media give him interviews if he was a crackpot. Seems that lame ass excuse you always USE ABOUT SOURCES just wont be acceptable......now!


Top Doctors: Ebola May Become Airborne … And May ALREADY Be Transmissible Via Aerosols.....


Michael T. Osterholm – director of the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy at the University of Minnesota – wrote in the New York Times last month:


Viruses like Ebola are notoriously sloppy in replicating, meaning the virus entering one person may be genetically different from the virus entering the next. The current Ebola virus’s hyper-evolution is unprecedented; there has been more human-to-human transmission in the past four months than most likely occurred in the last 500 to 1,000 years. Each new infection represents trillions of throws of the genetic dice. If certain mutations occurred, it would mean that just breathing would put one at risk of contracting Ebola. Infections could spread quickly to every part of the globe, as the H1N1 influenza virus did in 2009, after its birth in Mexico. Why are public officials afraid to discuss this? They don’t want to be accused of screaming “Fire!” in a crowded theater — as I’m sure some will accuse me of doing. But the risk is real, and until we consider it, the world will not be prepared to do what is necessary to end the epidemic.

In 2012, a team of Canadian researchers proved that Ebola Zaire, the same virus that is causing the West Africa outbreak, could be transmitted by the respiratory route from pigs to monkeys, both of whose lungs are very similar to those of humans. Richard Preston’s 1994 best seller “The Hot Zone” chronicled a 1989 outbreak of a different strain, Ebola Reston virus, among monkeys at a quarantine station near Washington. The virus was transmitted through breathing, and the outbreak ended only when all the monkeys were euthanized. We must consider that such transmissions could happen between humans, if the virus mutates.....snip~

Top Doctors: Ebola May Become Airborne ? And May ALREADY Be Transmissible Via Aerosols
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Link's broken.
 
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Rush had a Vet from Purdue on talking about the same topic. I think he was also a Fox News contributor. He is indeed yelling fire in a crowded theatre.
MMC said:
So how ya doing the with former CIDRAP who is at the University of Minnesota? Did you hear him talking to Rush Limbaugh in your dreams too?
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mak2 said:
Rush had a Vet from Purdue on talking about the same topic. I think he was also a Fox News contributor. He is indeed yelling fire in a crowded theatre.
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So what does that have to do with the UN WHO director......yelling fire if things aren't done fast enough?

Or these two?


Two Infectious Disease Experts Say Ebola In Its CURRENT Form Is ALREADY Spread By Aerosols

But perhaps most challenging to the mainstream assumption that Ebola can only be spread through physical contact with a person who is showing symptoms of infection is the following explanation by two national experts on infectious disease transmission, both professors in the School of Public Health, Division of Environmental and Occupational Health Sciences, at the University of Illinois at Chicago (footnotes omitted): We believe there is scientific and epidemiologic evidence that Ebola virus has the potential to be transmitted via infectious aerosol particles both near and at a distance from infected patients, which means that healthcare workers should be wearing respirators, not facemasks. [Aerosols are liquids or small particles suspended in air. An example is sea spray: seawater suspended in air bubbles, created by the force of the surf mixing water with air.] The important points are that virus-laden bodily fluids may be aerosolized and inhaled while a person is in proximity to an infectious person and that a wide range of particle sizes can be inhaled and deposited throughout the respiratory tract. Being at first skeptical that Ebola virus could be an aerosol-transmissible disease, we are now persuaded by a review of experimental and epidemiologic data that this might be an important feature of disease transmission, particularly in healthcare settings.

Many body fluids, such as vomit, diarrhea, blood, and saliva, are capable of creating inhalable aerosol particles in the immediate vicinity of an infected person. Cough was identified among some cases in a 1995 outbreak in Kikwit, Democratic Republic of the Congo, and coughs are known to emit viruses in respirable particles. The act of vomiting produces an aerosol and has been implicated in airborne transmission of gastrointestinal viruses. Regarding diarrhea, even when contained by toilets, toilet flushing emits a pathogen-laden aerosol that disperses in the air. There is also some experimental evidence that Ebola and other filoviruses can be transmitted by the aerosol route. Jaax et alreported the unexpected death of two rhesus monkeys housed approximately 3 meters from monkeys infected with Ebola virus, concluding that respiratory or eye exposure to aerosols was the only possible explanation - Zaire Ebola viruses have also been transmitted in the absence of direct contact among pigs and from pigs to non-human primates, which experienced lung involvement in infection. Persons with no known direct contact with Ebola virus disease patients or their bodily fluids have become infected.....snip~

http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-pers...ers-need-optimal-respiratory-protection-ebola
 
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Manc Skipper said:
Non-existent. So long as they keep it in their pants.
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This is our military you are talking about. Whom without you would probably not exist.
 
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