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Americans want flight restrictions from Ebola countries. And it’s not close.

PirateMk1 said:
We are already screwed. Especially if we keep getting cases of it. This thing is more contagious than being let on. If they cant stop this soon this will get out of control. This one and two at time if these CDC guys keep ****ing up will break loose then we will be screwed.
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This Zaire strain of the Ebola virus is a fragile virus, and even though it will survive on materials touched by an infected person, it will only survive on most surfaces for a few hours, and it quickly succumbs to UV light and common ordinary household cleaning solutions.

But, it's those 24 hours prior to an infected person experiencing symptoms, when the viral community is sufficient to overload into saliva and other mucous and where the oblivious carrier is touching their face and expectorating saliva fluids when they speak and contaminating doorknobs and towels and desks and chairs and you name it while they go about their business, that we are placed most at risk with regard to Ebola.

Since only 2 of the 76+ healthcare workers who cared for Duncan in the Dallas hospital have contracted the virus, it's pretty darn clear the protective gear they wore was adequate, that the fragile virus didn't penetrate their gear or sneak through an opening or the like .. and that they most likely contracted the virus on Thursday, September 25th, the day Duncan walked into the hospital ER (and was examined and sent home!) or even, as a few nurses in the hospital are alleging, when Duncan was brought in on Sunday, September 28th, by ambulance and was not yet diagnosed with Ebola and remained in open area in the hospital ER prior to diagnosis and subsequent protective isolation, and contaminated the ER at that time.

Though Ebola is most certainly quite deadly and our concerns are most certainly justified, the problem we currently face in the U.S. is that the CDC isn't saying enough about 1) indirect contact that contaminates, and 2) the 24-hours prior to experiencing symptoms when a carrier has begun to spread the virus onto objects, objects that can be touched by another person who can thereby become infected.

If we can just put enough pressure on the CDC and other relevant officials to stop downplaying the huge issue of the aforementioned two problems relevant to this virus, this fragile, easily cleansed virus will kill tens of millions of Americans, and not because it couldn't have been stopped, but because we were too politically ideologically dumbed down to adequately protect ourselves.

The CDC could easily start addressing the two points I presented and address them with the seriousness they deserve, and that would understandably lead to necessary measures of protection such as many are calling for in this thread.

But their "don't panic" policy line and its political ideologically based denial are functioning to create the very epidemic they're supposed to be preventing.

Again, thanks to you, and everyone in this thread who is raising understandable and intelligent concern.

Hopefully the CDC and the powers that be will get the message ..

.. That we'd rather be rightly alarmed today .. than as good as obliviously dead tomorrow.
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
I don't think we have much power to compel Belgium to change its policy of who is allowed to travel in and out of the country.
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Yes we do. Just inform Belgium we are not accepting those people and they will be turned around and returned. Or stop accepting flights from Brussels. Basically if it was me I would stop accepting any flights from countries that are still accepting flights from those countries with a pandemic.
 
PirateMk1 said:
Yes we do. Just inform Belgium we are not accepting those people and they will be turned around and returned. Or stop accepting flights from Brussels. Basically if it was me I would stop accepting any flights from countries that are still accepting flights from those countries with a pandemic.
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Yes.

The world needs to be impressed that this West African area suffering the Ebola epidemic needs to be quarantined, or the deadly virus will spread.

It's really a no-brainer.
 
Ontologuy said:
This Zaire strain of the Ebola virus is a fragile virus, and even though it will survive on materials touched by an infected person, it will only survive on most surfaces for a few hours, and it quickly succumbs to UV light and common ordinary household cleaning solutions.

But, it's those 24 hours prior to an infected person experiencing symptoms, when the viral community is sufficient to overload into saliva and other mucous and where the oblivious carrier is touching their face and expectorating saliva fluids when they speak and contaminating doorknobs and towels and desks and chairs and you name it while they go about their business, that we are placed most at risk with regard to Ebola.

Since only 2 of the 76+ healthcare workers who cared for Duncan in the Dallas hospital have contracted the virus, it's pretty darn clear the protective gear they wore was adequate, that the fragile virus didn't penetrate their gear or sneak through an opening or the like .. and that they most likely contracted the virus on Thursday, September 25th, the day Duncan walked into the hospital ER (and was examined and sent home!) or even, as a few nurses in the hospital are alleging, when Duncan was brought in on Sunday, September 28th, by ambulance and was not yet diagnosed with Ebola and remained in open area in the hospital ER prior to diagnosis and subsequent protective isolation, and contaminated the ER at that time.

Though Ebola is most certainly quite deadly and our concerns are most certainly justified, the problem we currently face in the U.S. is that the CDC isn't saying enough about 1) indirect contact that contaminates, and 2) the 24-hours prior to experiencing symptoms when a carrier has begun to spread the virus onto objects, objects that can be touched by another person who can thereby become infected.

If we can just put enough pressure on the CDC and other relevant officials to stop downplaying the huge issue of the aforementioned two problems relevant to this virus, this fragile, easily cleansed virus will kill tens of millions of Americans, and not because it couldn't have been stopped, but because we were too politically ideologically dumbed down to adequately protect ourselves.

The CDC could easily start addressing the two points I presented and address them with the seriousness they deserve, and that would understandably lead to necessary measures of protection such as many are calling for in this thread.

But their "don't panic" policy line and its political ideologically based denial are functioning to create the very epidemic they're supposed to be preventing.

Again, thanks to you, and everyone in this thread who is raising understandable and intelligent concern.

Hopefully the CDC and the powers that be will get the message ..

.. That we'd rather be rightly alarmed today .. than as good as obliviously dead tomorrow.
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I just heard that 21 day window is actually a 42 day window vis a vis information from WHO.

Underscoring the importance of the 42-day rule, the WHO document openly states that a 42-day observation period with no new outbreaks is required before declaring the outbreak is under control. In the WHO's own words:

WHO is therefore confident that detection of no new cases, with active surveillance in place, throughout this 42-day period means that an Ebola outbreak is indeed over. [1]


Learn more: Shock W.H.O. report: Ebola has 42-day incubation period, not 21 days! - NaturalNews.com

95% of confirmed cases have an incubation period in the range of 1 to 21 days; 98% have an incubation period that falls within the 1 to 42 day interval. [1]

Unless the sentence structure is somehow misleading, this passage appears to indicate the following:

• 95% of Ebola incubations occur from 1 - 21 days
• 3% of Ebola incubations occur from 21 - 42 days
• 2% of Ebola incubations are not explained (why?)

If this interpretation of the WHO's statistics are correct, it would mean that:

• 1 in 20 Ebola infections may result in incubations lasting significantly longer than 21 days

• The 21-day quarantine currently being enforced by the CDC is entirely insufficient to halt an outbreak

• People who are released from observation or self-quarantine after 21 days may still become full-blown Ebola patients in the subsequent three weeks, even if they have shown no symptoms of infection during the first 21 days. (Yes, read that again...)


Learn more: Shock W.H.O. report: Ebola has 42-day incubation period, not 21 days! - NaturalNews.com


Shock W.H.O. report: Ebola has 42-day incubation period, not 21 days! - NaturalNews.com

Can I sanitize visa vi UV light and how intense does it have to be?
 
I also heard that RW nutbag Ted Cruz signed that letter to ban in/out going flights to select African countries. Man that guy is wacko!! :lamo
 
It continues.
Lets hope Tests are Negative (well know soon), BUT this is ridiculous.
Obumble&co Must ban Commercial Flights and Passengers originating from the Infected countries, if not all of West Africa.
Only Special precaution Charter flights (with quarantines in Africa) should be making the transit.


Yale Student Hospitalized with Ebola-Like Symptoms
Thursday, Oct 16, 2014 • Updated at 3:07 PM EDT
Yale Student Hospitalized with Ebola-Like Symptoms | NBC Connecticut
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A Yale University doctoral student who recently returned from Liberia has been admitted to Yale-New Haven Hospital, where he is in isolation and being evaluated for Ebola-like symptoms.

Two Yale students who had been conducting research in the West African country where Ebola is widespread returned on Saturday, Oct. 11 and have been kept in voluntary sequestration, Laurence Grothier, Director of Communication for Mayor Toni Harp, said this morning.

A patient was admitted to Yale-New Haven Hospital Wednesday night after showing symptoms of Ebola.
The student who was admitted to the hospital had no symptoms when he left Liberia and preliminary test results are expected back from a Massachusetts lab within 24 hours, hospital officials said.

While hospital officials said it could take a day for results to come back, Gov. Dannel Malloy said during a news conference at 2 p.m. that the preliminary tests could be back in an hour to an hour and a half.
Last week, Malloy declared a public health emergency in the state as a precaution, which granted the commissioner of the state Department of Public Health the authority to quarantine and isolate people whom she "reasonably believes has been exposed to the Ebola virus."

Now, he has taken additional steps for the state to be prepared, including assembling a unified command team, led by the public health commissioner, and he has asked all hospitals to perform a drill within the next week to be sure that their procedures are up to standards.​
 
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Unitedwestand13 said:
The logistics would be gargantuan.
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The logistics to shut down inbound travel compared to the spread of Ebola in the US would be miniscule. A few hundred Ebola cases would bring the US healthcare system to it's knees.
 
Ockham said:
The logistics to shut down inbound travel compared to the spread of Ebola in the US would be miniscule. A few hundred Ebola cases would bring the US healthcare system to it's knees.
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It is harder to stop it from spreading if people are desperate enough to escape infection by travailing by land or boat.
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
Special flights are not enough to supply the areas affected by ebola. The best way to protect Americans from ebola is to help the people of west Africa combat the virus.
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Nobody is calling for restriction to outbound flights to Ebolaland but restricting incoming flights.

The Obama's administration State Department in the name of political correctness are still issuing 100 visas per day to Africans in Ebolaland.

US Embassies in Ebola-Stricken Countries Are Still Processing Visas for Non-US Citizens

U.S. Embassies in West Africa Are Still Processing Visas


Thank's Obama, glad to see your on top of everything. Nothing to worry about.
 
There is so much fear and paranoia in this thread. With all of the BOLD text, links to right-wing blogs/news it really confirms that the right are a paranoid bunch.

Im sure many of you have seen this video already

 
APACHERAT said:
The Obama's administration State Department in the name of political correctness are still issuing 100 visas per day to Africans in Ebolaland.

US Embassies in Ebola-Stricken Countries Are Still Processing Visas for Non-US Citizens

U.S. Embassies in West Africa Are Still Processing Visas


Thank's Obama, glad to see your on top of everything. Nothing to worry about.
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Obama is intent on destroying the United States in any way possible.
 
Roadvirus said:
Obama is intent on destroying the United States in any way possible.
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The Obama administration/Democrat Party look at all of these visas being issued to Africans from West Africa as possible "undocumented Democrats." That's why Duncan was allowed into America knowing that he was very likely a visa overstay soon to be an illegal alien soon to be awarded amnesty by Obama. That's why the State Department keeps issuing visas every day in West Africa and why no inbound flight restrictions.

Dallas Ebola Patient Was Another Visa Mistake

>" Look up "likely visa overstay" in the dictionary, and you should find a picture of Thomas Eric Duncan, the Liberian man who is the first Ebola case diagnosed within the United States, and who is now being treated in a Dallas hospital.

This looks like another good case for the consular officers training manual of a non-immigrant visa that never should have been issued, but which could have serious public health consequences, not to mention monetary costs.

According to his Facebook page and other reports, Duncan is a 40-something, single, unemployed Liberian who applied sometime in the last year for a visa to visit his sister in the United States.

That is five strikes against his application:

Single
Unemployed
Liberian (5th highest overstay rate of any country in the world)
Has recently resided outside of his country of citizenship, displaying weak ties there
Sister living in the United States.
Together, all these factors should have weighed very heavily against the issuance of a visitor's visa to Duncan. He clearly appears unqualified.

In 2013, more than 3,500 non-immigrant visas were issued to Liberians. This number has grown steadily since 2009, when just over 1,300 were issued. Most are issued to tourists and business travelers. A relatively high percentage do not return, but settle here illegally to join a well-established Liberian community (many of whom have won green cards in the visa lottery).

The federal government has yet to disclose the details of Duncan's immigration history, but it is fair to ask why he was issued a visa in the first place? More importantly, what steps are being taken to prevent others who may be infected from entering the country?..."<

continue -> Dallas Ebola Patient Was Another Visa Mistake | Center for Immigration Studies
 
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