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Americans want flight restrictions from Ebola countries. And it’s not close.

Unitedwestand13 said:
I don't think we have much power to compel Belgium to change its policy of who is allowed to travel in and out of the country.
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You don't know just how things work do you regarding passports?
If we aren't accepting passports from a given country, then Belgium wouldn't allow him on board because that's the way things roll with passports.
 
Meister said:
No it's not impractical, you have your agenda so there isn't anything that can be said that would change your mind. We reject passports every single day 365 days a year.
If the person is in quarantine, just how is he going to contract the disease? Tell me what you think his chances are of contracting it under those circumstances?
Why are you against protecting the people of this country from a disease that has no known cure nor a vaccine at this time?
Do you hate America?
Why are you against a prudent solution to a serious problem?
Why do you want someone who could be infected to enter our country?
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The best way to fight the ebola epidemic is to confront it at its source.
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
I don't think we have much power to compel Belgium to change its policy of who is allowed to travel in and out of the country.
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Then you think incorrectly. If the US refuses to allow a country of origin to travel to it via flights it can and will. The FAA can simply state the US will not allow flights if a member of country _X_ is listed on board. The US does not have to let anyone it deems a potential threat onto US soil. Of course we have the power to do that. Can you cite a law or ruling citing the US MUST let everyone into our country?
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
The best way to fight the ebola epidemic is to confront it at its source.
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You didn't give me the respect to answer the questions I asked of you. I respected you enough to answer yours.
I didn't ask you what is the best way to fight the ebola epidemic.
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
The best way to fight the ebola epidemic is to confront it at its source.
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AND...
OBVIOUSLY to ISOLATE it to it's Source instead of having many SourceS.

For which you still have NO Answer, just excuses.
What Ridiculous posts you make.
 
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PirateMk1 said:
My question to the twit is why didn't that happen with the current and previous patients. They all should have been sent to an isolation ward.
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Heya Pirate. :2wave:Yeah and now he admits they should have sent a response team to Dallas.....although now they say they have a response team ready. Also the Atlanta hospital sent 2 nurses to the Dallas hospital to help.
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
The best way to fight the ebola epidemic is to confront it at its source.
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Difficult to do when infected people are allowed to spread the disease to the US, unless you think Dallas is considered the source.
 
Ockham said:
Again, no. Ban any passenger from the hot spot countries from traveling to the US, regardless of the country the flight originated. In Duncan's case, he flew to Brussels first, then to Dallas TX. In Brussels, were the ban in place, Duncan would not have been permitted to board the flight to the U.S.

It's really not that difficult at a concept level so I'm not sure why you're having trouble with this. :shrug:
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Heya Ockham :2wave: here was what they were showing that leaves those countries by air.

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maps of ebola ready hospitals in the US - Bing Images
 
MMC said:
Heya Ockham :2wave: here was what they were showing that leaves those countries by air.

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It doesn't look to be that difficult for direct flights - but I'd like to see connecting flights ban people from hot spots in West Africa as well. If they have a Guinea, Sierra Leone, Liberia or Nigeria passport/visa - no entry. Of course this would be temporary until the Ebola outbreak is contained and controlled.
 
Ockham said:
It doesn't look to be that difficult for direct flights - but I'd like to see connecting flights ban people from hot spots in West Africa as well. If they have a Guinea, Sierra Leone, Liberia or Nigeria passport/visa - no entry. Of course this would be temporary until the Ebola outbreak is contained and controlled.
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Looks like the map of the globe at the end of Planet of the Apes.
 
USViking said:
I thought I did. Will try again.



I saw that. Ebola is not new. Do WHO and UNICEF have a history of inept reporting on Ebola?
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I wouldn't know if their reporting was inept.....but the World Health Organization has been putting out reports long before the MS media here was picking it up on every channel and with most news agencies.
 
MMC said:
I wouldn't know if their reporting was inept.....but the World Health Organization has been putting out reports long before the MS media here was picking it up on every channel and with most news agencies.
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MMC, the Dallas woman visited Akron, Ohio!

PM sent
 
MMC said:
Heya Pirate. :2wave:Yeah and now he admits they should have sent a response team to Dallas.....although now they say they have a response team ready. Also the Atlanta hospital sent 2 nurses to the Dallas hospital to help.
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How that guy at the CDC got in charge I have no idea but god, he is just plain stupid. I know for a fact they have at Ft. Dietrich plans for controlling outbreaks, if the CDC doesn't have their own which I doubt highly. Why they are not being executed I have no idea. You don't play games with this kind of **** and the people that developed the serum from the tobacco plants needs to have the full resources of the US government available to speed up the research development and deployment.
 
From Ed Morrissey. ;)

To Contain Ebola, Obama Must Impose a West-African Travel Ban.....

The last thing this administration needed was another crisis. In an election cycle that features few issues other than Obama’s own policies – as the President himself helpfully admitted last week – another bungled response would only make the leadership deficit more acute. The emergence of Ebola in Dallas, Texas, and the CDC’s failure to control the situation, has added yet another brick to the load weighing down Democrats in this cycle.

None of this instills confidence in this administration’s ability to deal with one single outbreak point. What happens when more come? The Washington Post/ABC News poll shows that two-thirds of Americans want a ban on travel from Ebola-linked countries until the outbreak subsides, and it’s not difficult to understand why. With just one case, we have two transmissions and potentially over 200 more, thanks to a slow response from the healthcare center and the CDC’s inability to keep a monitored high-risk case from boarding a commercial flight to Cleveland and back. The White House insisted yesterday that no such travel ban would be forthcoming, but the crisis has rattled Obama enough to cancel a fundraising trip and stick around for a Cabinet meeting. Right now, the crisis is still very manageable, but only as long as they can contain the Dallas outbreak and hope another plane with visitors from western Africa does not bring another Patient Zero to America. Obama and his advisers should consider a travel ban as a necessary first step to prevent that – and perhaps to restore a little bit of confidence in their leadership......snip~

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/contain-ebola-obama-must-impose-094500403.html
 
MMC said:
From Ed Morrissey. ;)

To Contain Ebola, Obama Must Impose a West-African Travel Ban.....

The last thing this administration needed was another crisis. In an election cycle that features few issues other than Obama’s own policies – as the President himself helpfully admitted last week – another bungled response would only make the leadership deficit more acute. The emergence of Ebola in Dallas, Texas, and the CDC’s failure to control the situation, has added yet another brick to the load weighing down Democrats in this cycle.

None of this instills confidence in this administration’s ability to deal with one single outbreak point. What happens when more come? The Washington Post/ABC News poll shows that two-thirds of Americans want a ban on travel from Ebola-linked countries until the outbreak subsides, and it’s not difficult to understand why. With just one case, we have two transmissions and potentially over 200 more, thanks to a slow response from the healthcare center and the CDC’s inability to keep a monitored high-risk case from boarding a commercial flight to Cleveland and back. The White House insisted yesterday that no such travel ban would be forthcoming, but the crisis has rattled Obama enough to cancel a fundraising trip and stick around for a Cabinet meeting. Right now, the crisis is still very manageable, but only as long as they can contain the Dallas outbreak and hope another plane with visitors from western Africa does not bring another Patient Zero to America. Obama and his advisers should consider a travel ban as a necessary first step to prevent that – and perhaps to restore a little bit of confidence in their leadership......snip~

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/contain-ebola-obama-must-impose-094500403.html
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I'm sure there are multiple petitions going on - here's one of them but it needs 100,000 sign ups by the end of the month. So far their only 1/3 of the way there. What's amazing is that such a common sense and simple act to protect Americans temporarily is a political football. Truly our nation is polarized to the point of paralysis.

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/pe...icken-countries-until-ebola-outbreak/FFJHH9yX
 
Ockham said:
I'm sure there are multiple petitions going on - here's one of them but it needs 100,000 sign ups by the end of the month. So far their only 1/3 of the way there. What's amazing is that such a common sense and simple act to protect Americans temporarily is a political football. Truly our nation is polarized to the point of paralysis.

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/pe...icken-countries-until-ebola-outbreak/FFJHH9yX
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Mornin Ockham. :2wave: Yeah and Rep Democrat Alan Grayson sent a letter directly to BO. Asking him to ban travel from those infected countries.


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http://finance.yahoo.com/news/contain-ebola-obama-must-impose-094500403.html
 
Any national leader with any love or feelings for his nation would have banned flights from Ebola-plagued countries long ago.

However, Obama is, like his Attorney General, first and foremost, a Black man. In other words, a Black Supremacist. Obama refuses to stop the illegal immigration of millions of Hispanics, and he certainly won't stop the legal and illegal influx of Sub-Sahanan Africans---His people.

As Liberia and Sierra Leone are the most corrupt and criminalized of all nations on the earth, there are also shady political deals and transactions going on that further compel BO keep this area open for travel.
 
This problem is going to get worse, even untenable, unless commercial flights to infected African states are stopped.
Flu season is upon us and even non-ebola Fever/shakes/Scares are going to subject passengers to undue/unbelievable stress.
There is NO pressing need for people from these countries to be flying freely into USA/EU and spreading the Virus to other points globally. It's already cost Tens of Billions: add another Zero (or two) if you include Stock Market losses.

Air France Flight Grounded in Madrid Over Suspected Ebola Virus Case
Passenger on the Flight Showed Symptoms of Ebola, Including Shaking, an Official Said
By CHRISTOPHER BJORK And JEANNETTE NEUMANN CONNECT
Updated Oct. 16, 2014 8:55 a.m. ET
Air France Flight Grounded in Madrid Over Suspected Ebola Virus Case - WSJ
MADRID—An Air France aircraft flying from Paris was grounded at its Madrid destination Thursday over concerns that one of the passengers showed potential symptoms of Ebola.

Officials for the French airline, the Spanish government and the Madrid airport said the passenger had fallen ill during the flight and would be tested for the virus.

The person in question on Air France flight 1300—with 156 passengers on board, as well as two pilots and five crew members—showed symptoms of Ebola, including shaking, said a spokeswoman for Air France in Madrid.

It wasn’t clear what, if any, other symptoms the passenger showed. And those passengers were likely to be given the go ahead to disembark Thursday afternoon Madrid time, the spokeswoman said.

Spain’s state-owned broadcaster RTVE said the passenger was of Nigerian origin and had started the journey in Lagos.

The aircraft, an Airbus A321, left Paris’ Charles de Gaulle airport at 0735 GMT and arrived in Madrid Barajas airport at 0940 GMT, the spokeswoman said.
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I have just given a bunch of likes to the brave people in this thread who are saying do something! to prevent an epidemic .. and I could have given a bunch more.

Thanks to all who are understandably and intelligently admonishing our trusted officials that it would benefit us all to be better extra-effort safe than deadly epidemic sorry.
 
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