Public University’s Sex Week Includes ‘Negotiating Successful Threesomes’ Event

sangha · Oct 6, 2014

eohrnberger said:
Gee Whiz Sangha, didn't you read the OP?

Yes, I did

Did you read your own post?

eohrnberger said:
Exactly the point. It's more than that, but why plant all kinds of crazy ideas in kids heads which will only lead them into more trouble.

While discussing these "crazy ideas" you have repeatedly referenced the "Negotiating Threesomes" event but you refuse to specify what "crazy idea" it is promoting.

Gathomas88 · Oct 6, 2014

sangha said:
When a university provides space for actual threesomes, then we'll talk.

Are you aware of many universities which own their own shooting ranges? :screwy

Frankly, even if they did, shooting is a legitimate sport. "Threesomes" are not.

Beyond even that, as I already said, I wouldn't even necessarily be opposed to it if a private sex and sexuality themed club did have rooms on campus where they taught those kinds of techniques. What I'm opposed to are the University's blatant efforts to promote deviant sexual behavior and Leftist sexual ideology.

sangha said:
While discussing these "crazy ideas" you have repeatedly referenced the "Negotiating Threesomes" event but you refuse to specify what "crazy idea" it is promoting.

The entire class is a "crazy idea."

sangha · Oct 6, 2014

Gathomas88 said:
Are you aware of many universities which own shooting their own ranges? :screwy

Plenty of colleges have ranges

Let me google that for you

eohrnberger · Oct 6, 2014

sangha said:
Yes, I did

Did you read your own post?

While discussing these "crazy ideas" you have repeatedly referenced the "Negotiating Threesomes" event but you refuse to specify what "crazy idea" it is promoting.

A threesome is not the most prevalent situation, leads to greater conflict and heart break, and is less stable than a twosome.
So why promote it?
What possible good can come of it?
What probably harm is likely to come of it?

Gathomas88 · Oct 6, 2014

sangha said:
Plenty of colleges have ranges

Let me google that for you

Case in point...

Akron Athletics

In 1919, The University of Akron entered into contract with the United States Army to provide a shooting facility for the purpose of training members of the Army ROTC. Starting in 1919 The University of Akron ROTC started competing in sanctioned rifle matches. The marksmanship program received many national honors under the guidance of the military. In 1967 the Athletic department at The University of Akron fielded its first rifle team supported by the athletic department. The following year, the new shooting facility located in Shrank Hall South was opened. The ten-point, 50-foot, computerized electronic facility was the first of its type in the state of Ohio. After many years of reliable service, the facility has completed several renovations and updates which involved the replacement of the electronic target carriers, the shooting stalls, the ventilation system, target lighting, and the bullet backstop. The facility remains one of the premier shooting facilities in the state. :In addition to the smallbore rifle facility the team has access to a separate 8 point, 10 meter air rifle facility. This allows the team to train and conduct competitions with up to 18 athletes at one time. Thanks to the generous support of H&M Metal Processing in Akron, Ohio, new state of the art Sius electronic scoring systems have been installed and will begin operation for the 2013 rifle season. Rifle matches will now be much more spectator friendly and will be live streamed over the internet. See the rifle schedule to see streaming details.

In 1998, the shooting range was named the "Robert A. Pinn" shooting range. Robert A. Pinn was one of only four African Americans from Ohio to receive the Congressional Medal of Honor. Pinn was born on a Perry Township farm near Massillon, and the sixth of 10 children born to William and Zilphia Penn. He attended school and worked on the farm until he was 18. Pinn joined the Army in Massillon, Ohio, and by September 29, 1864, he was serving as a First Sergeant in Company I of the 5th U.S. Colored Infantry Regiment, also known as the 127th Ohio Volunteer Infantry. On that day, his unit participated in the Battle of Chaffin's Farm in Virginia, and it was for his actions during the battle that he was awarded the Medal of Honor six months later, on April 6, 1865.

Yea... Not quite the same thing as a university sanctioned f*ck fest pushing "free love" ideology, now is it?

Besides, as I already said...

Gathomas88 said:
I wouldn't even necessarily be opposed to it if a private sex and sexuality themed club did have rooms on campus where they taught those kinds of techniques. What I'm opposed to are the University's blatant efforts to promote deviant sexual behavior and Left sexual ideology.

sangha · Oct 6, 2014

eohrnberger said:
A threesome is not the most prevalent situation,

Irrelevant

leads to greater conflict and heart break, and is less stable than a twosome.

I asked for you to support your claim that it is "crazy" and not for evidence that it is less than your idea of perfect.

So why promote it?

I also asked for evidence that they were promoting threesomes.

sangha · Oct 6, 2014

Gathomas88 said:
Case in point...

Akron Athletics

Yea... Not quite the same thing as a university sanctioned f*ck fest pushing "free love" ideology, now is it?

Did you not read the sentence immediately after the part you bolded?

In 1967 the Athletic department at The University of Akron fielded its first rifle team supported by the athletic department.

Gathomas88 · Oct 6, 2014

sangha said:
I also asked for evidence that they were promoting threesomes.

The class promotes threesomes by the simple act of existing in the first place. :roll:

sangha said:
Did you not read the sentence immediately after the part you bolded?

Did you not read the rest of my post after the initial sentence you quoted?

Gathomas88 said:
Shooting is a legitimate sport. "Threesomes" are not.

Beyond even that, as I already said, I wouldn't even necessarily be opposed to it if a private sex and sexuality themed club did have rooms on campus where they taught those kinds of techniques. What I'm opposed to are the University's blatant efforts to promote deviant sexual behavior and Leftist sexual ideology.

Not only are the situations inherently different, but I'm not even necessarily opposed to sex clubs doing some of the same things as a shooting club anyway.

sangha · Oct 6, 2014

Gathomas88 said:
The class promotes threesomes by the simple act of existing in the first place. :roll:

No it doesn't

Did you not read the rest of my post after the initial sentence you quoted?

Not only are the situations inherently different, but I'm not even necessarily opposed to sex clubs doing some of the same things as a shooting club anyway.

Threesomes are as legitimate twosomes.

Gathomas88 · Oct 6, 2014

sangha said:
No it doesn't

Yes, it does.

Unless you want to suggest that a course about "Negotiating Threesomes" exists for some purpose besides, well... "Negotiating Threesomes." :roll:

Threesomes are as legitimate twosomes.

First off, that is just your opinion, and not one supported by much of anything factual at that. Threesomes turn out badly quite a bit more often than twosomes, in point of fact.

Secondly, what on Earth does this have to do with anything?

We were discussing sex clubs vs sport clubs. :lol:

eohrnberger · Oct 6, 2014

sangha said:
Irrelevant

I asked for you to support your claim that it is "crazy" and not for evidence that it is less than your idea of perfect.

I also asked for evidence that they were promoting threesomes.

So now I remember why I put you on ignore.

sangha · Oct 6, 2014

Gathomas88 said:
Yes, it does.

No, it doesn't

First off, that is just your opinion,

No, it is fact

Gathomas88 · Oct 6, 2014

sangha said:
No, it doesn't

No, it is fact

Yes, it does.

No, it is your opinion.

sangha · Oct 6, 2014

eohrnberger said:
So now I remember why I put you on ignore.

So you can continue to post claims about the university promoting crazy ideas without identifying what is crazy or how the university is promoting them

You can put me on ignore, but that will only mean I can point out how crazy your claims are and you will be unable to respond

polgara · Oct 6, 2014

Gathomas88 said:
Case in point...

Akron Athletics

Yea... Not quite the same thing as a university sanctioned f*ck fest pushing "free love" ideology, now is it?

Besides, as I already said...

Greetings, Gathomas88. :2wave:

I'm also proud, as an Ohioan, to state that we were one of the first states to use the charter school concept in education, and it's been hugely successful for getting children out of failing school systems and into a new proven learning environment, regardless of race or ethnic backgrounds. It works for us, and I haven't heard any complaints from the parents whose children benefited from this. They approve!

Erod · Oct 6, 2014

I knew this thread would be telling. Sadly telling.

What in God's name has become of us?

roguenuke · Oct 6, 2014

eohrnberger said:
True, they can and do exist, however, the far greater norm is a twosome rather than the threesome. Also, I believe that a threesome is probably less stable than a twosome.

I'm not in favor of banning it, or anything else, as the government has no purview over what goes on behind closed bedroom doors among consenting adults. However, it's quite a different matter to promote all these alternative sex situations to young adults.

Doesn't really matter what you think, how stable their relationships may or may not be, nor whether they make up any sort of majority. All that matters is that the seminar about this subject claims to be for building better relationships, with better communication and that are healthier overall.

eohrnberger · Oct 6, 2014

roguenuke said:
Doesn't really matter what you think, how stable their relationships may or may not be, nor whether they make up any sort of majority. All that matters is that the seminar about this subject claims to be for building better relationships, with better communication and that are healthier overall.

Better relationships through better communication, fine.

The University of New Mexico has launched its first-ever “Sex Week” observance this week with a controversial agenda that includes workshops such as “How to be a Gentleman and Still Get Laid,” “Negotiating Successful Threesomes,” “O-Face Oral” and “BJs and Beyond” – seminars that have prompted concern from some conservative students on campus.

Public University’s Sex Week Includes ‘Negotiating Successful Threesomes’ Event

“Sex Week”, with “Negotiating Successful Threesomes”, “O-Face Oral”, and “BJs and Beyond”, seems to be just going a bit too far.

Have we learned nothing from history? The Roman's, their hedonism, and their fall?

Never mind that this university is probably doing this with public money.

sangha · Oct 6, 2014

eohrnberger said:
Better relationships through better communication, fine.

Public University’s Sex Week Includes ‘Negotiating Successful Threesomes’ Event

“Sex Week”, with “Negotiating Successful Threesomes”, “O-Face Oral”, and “BJs and Beyond”, seems to be just going a bit too far.

Have we learned nothing from history? The Roman's, their hedonism, and their fall?

Never mind that this university is probably doing this with public money.

When you read a newspaper, do you just read the headlines and skip past the article?

“Whether it’s how to use lube and condoms to enhance the safety and pleasure of a blow job or how to have … a ‘Safe Sex Elevator Speech’ so you can have a safe and healthy threesome, all of my classes, no matter how outrageous, provocative, or explicit the titles may be teach adults better communication and intimacy skills, offer accurate sexual health information, and do so in a non-fear based and ‘edutaining’ environment,” he said.

eohrnberger · Oct 6, 2014

sangha said:
When you read a newspaper, do you just read the headlines and skip past the article?

As a public exposition to an intended audience, what does the intended audience have to say about it?

One example:

“It’s gross … and offensive,” said 21-year-old junior Sade Patterson in an interview Monday with The College Fix. Patterson is vice president of Students for Life UNM, and she and her group recently penned letters voicing concern about the events to the dean of students and the campus newspaper.

And again:

Jordan Alter I also disagree with sex week, but only because it's still focused in objectifying women as prizes to be won instead of human beings with the right to say no. I don't have a problem with being educated on sex, it's actually an important part of being "enlightened" in my opinion. I've seen doctors post about how women don't understand that sex leads to pregnancy, and that's because their parents don't ever explain to them what happens when you decide to have a baby. Those same parents who refuse to educate their daughters about sex and encourage contraception if they won't be abstinent are the same ones who end up with a daughter who had an abortion because she got rid of the baby after she found out she was pregnant. It's an endless circle and while I don't support abortion, if we want to reduce the numbers of women having them, we have to educate them on their bodies and teach them how to prevent diseases at the very least. So no, I don't agree with the sex week topics, they're rude and don't teach anything. But refusing to teach about sex and what it does to your body is seriously dumb. Let your child make an informed decision to have a baby, don't force them into a bad situation because they don't understand how their own body works.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?...34348022.79259.100002650463256&type=1&theater

It's not about sex-ed. It's about celebrating sex, that does not sound safe or responsible.

Sadé M Patterson Joe and Jordan, thank you for sharing your opinions on the topic. Let me clarify that I find it vitally important to have sex education within schools, especially high school. I don't see enough in New Mexico public schools. Let's be honest though, this isn't a week about sex-ed. It's about celebrating sex, that does not sound safe or responsible. This event is making sex as a way to objectify the people having it. I will address you first Joe. Our group will not be protesting at all, but rather providing pregnant and parenting resources because having irresponsible sex, often results in unplanned pregnancies. The reason I sent this complaint is because it is offensive and like you said, "sketchy". I would not have an issue with a sexual education workshop; this is completely different than that. Being a gentleman is not about "getting laid" but it's about accepting responsibilities, like being a father if you are going to make irresponsible decisions.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?...34348022.79259.100002650463256&type=1&theater

The debate about it from the students themselves continues. Some pro-mostly guys, and some against, mostly girls. Most interesting was the objectifying women, which, last I heard, wasn't really being fair to the fairest sex. At least not how I was raised. Your mileage may vary.

sangha · Oct 6, 2014

eohrnberger said:
As a public exposition to an intended audience, what does the intended audience have to say about it?

One example:

And again:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?...34348022.79259.100002650463256&type=1&theater

It's not about sex-ed. It's about celebrating sex, that does not sound safe or responsible.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?...34348022.79259.100002650463256&type=1&theater

The debate about it from the students themselves continues. Some pro-mostly guys, and some against, mostly girls. Most interesting was the objectifying women, which, last I heard, wasn't really being fair to the fairest sex. At least not how I was raised. Your mileage may vary.

Wow, there are people who, like you, haven't seen or heard any of the presentations but already know what they're going to say

Since some people agree with you, you must be right!!!

“Whether it’s how to use lube and condoms to enhance the safety and pleasure of a blow job or how to have … a ‘Safe Sex Elevator Speech’ so you can have a safe and healthy threesome, all of my classes, no matter how outrageous, provocative, or explicit the titles may be teach adults better communication and intimacy skills, offer accurate sexual health information, and do so in a non-fear based and ‘edutaining’ environment,” he said.

Gathomas88 · Oct 6, 2014

roguenuke said:
Doesn't really matter what you think, how stable their relationships may or may not be, nor whether they make up any sort of majority. All that matters is that the seminar about this subject claims to be for building better relationships, with better communication and that are healthier overall.

sangha said:
When you read a newspaper, do you just read the headlines and skip past the article?

Just because the whack-jobs responsible for this nonsense think it will serve to promote "better communication" and "healthier relationships" doesn't mean that it actually will. Quite frankly, I question whether any person who would unironically frame such discussion within the context of "how to get laid," "how to negotiate a threesome," or how to give "'O face' oral sex," has any idea what either of those phrases actually mean in the first place.

It would appear, at the very least, to be abundantly clear that they are not working off of the same definition of either concept shared by the majority of the population (student body or otherwise), but their own.

Again, this leads us back to the very heart of the problem. What they're teaching here isn't anything objective. They are only speaking from the wholly subjective perspective of their own, Left Wing, "Sex Positive," personal ideology.

If you support that ideology, fine. You have that right. You do not, however, have the right to use public funds and public institutions to foist that ideology upon everyone else regardless of whether they want it or not.

Keep it to yourself, where it belongs.

You wouldn't want a couple of NRA spokesmen hijacking a college campus for "Gun Love Week" and teaching classes like "How to Shoot an M60 like Rambo," or "How to Open Carry Without Getting Arrested." I'm pretty sure you wouldn't want a couple of Anheuser-Busch and Jack Daniels corporate reps taking over campus for a week to teach "Avoiding Hangovers While Binge Drinking 101" or "How to Perform a Proper Keg Stand" either.

Why is it so hard for you people to fathom that what is essentially "celebrate deviant sex week" raises more than a few eyebrows?

Are you really this clueless? Are you really this blindly enamored with your cause? :roll:

Safe sex is fine. Communication in relationships is fine. A variety of applicable techniques for both can and should be taught in the appropriate way and context, if people want to learn them.

I'm sorry, but the fact of the matter is that this is neither.

eohrnberger · Oct 6, 2014

Gathomas88 said:
Just because the whack-jobs responsible for this nonsense think it will serve to promote "better communication" and "healthier relationships" doesn't mean that it actually will. Quite frankly, I question whether any person who would unironically frame such discussion within the context of "how to get laid," "how to negotiate a threesome," or how to give "'O face' oral sex," has any idea what either of those phrases actually mean in the first place.

It would appear, at the very least, to be abundantly clear that they are not working off of the same definition of either concept shared by the majority of the population (student body or otherwise), but their own.

Again, this leads us back to the very heart of the problem. What they're teaching here isn't anything objective. They are only speaking from the wholly subjective perspective of their own, Left Wing, "Sex Positive," personal ideology.

If you support that ideology, fine. You have that right. You do not, however, have the right to use public funds and public institutions to force that ideology upon everyone else regardless of whether they want it or not.

Keep it to yourself, where it belongs.

You wouldn't want a couple of NRA spokesmen hijacking a college campus for "Gun Love Week" and teaching classes like "How to Shoot an M60 like Rambo," or "How to Open Carry Without Getting Arrested." I'm pretty sure you wouldn't want a couple of Anheuser-Busch and Jack Daniels corporate reps taking over campus for a week to teach "Avoiding Hangovers While Binge Drinking 101" or "How to Perform a Proper Keg Stand" either.

Why is it so hard for you people to fathom that what is essentially "celebrate deviant sex week" raises more than a few eyebrows?

Are you really that clueless? Are you really that blindly enamored with your cause? :roll:

Safe sex is fine. Communication in relationships is fine. Applicable techniques for both should be taught in the appropriate way and context, if people want to learn them.

I'm sorry, but the fact of the matter is that this is neither.

Indeed. Well said.

sangha · Oct 6, 2014

Gathomas88 said:
Just because the whack-jobs responsible for this nonsense think it will serve to promote "better communication" and "healthier relationships" doesn't mean that it actually will.

Just because some wack jobs on the internet think it's going to promote promiscuity doesn't mean that it actually will.

Gathomas88 · Oct 7, 2014

sangha said:
Just because some wack jobs on the internet think it's going to promote promiscuity doesn't mean that it actually will.

Oh, please. :roll:

You not only believe that these programs can and will promote promiscuity, but you're basically hoping that they will. That's basically the whole reason they exist in the first place.

At the end of the day, Left Wing ideology has no more use for monogamy than it does marriage, gender, heteronormity, objective morality, parenthood, nuclear families, religion, (arguably life itself, to a certain extent) or anything else viewed as being in the same general category. The sooner they're all dead, buried, and replaced with the consequence, commitment, and morality free "free love" utopia you all envision (coupled with the all-encompassing and all-powerful nanny state required to make any of the above goals even remotely workable in the first place), the better, as far as you're all concerned.

Frankly, I find it absolutely hilarious that you people even try to deny it. Not only did Marx spell all of these aims out in exacting detail more than a century and a half ago for the entire world to see, but it's blatantly obvious in everything you argue. :lol:

You and your ilk basically won't be satisfied until you've torn every remnant of the old world down, and remade it in your own perverse and dysfunctional image. Every inch you gain in moving towards that goal is just another step closer to oblivion for all the rest of us.