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Public University’s Sex Week Includes ‘Negotiating Successful Threesomes’ Event

Wrong. This has been studied extensively and they have found that people who are able to communicate with their sexual partner in bed have better sex lives, are happier in their sexual activities, practice safer sex, are in healthier sexual relationships, and much more. And this is throughout their lives....

NOPE.

I'm stopping you right there.

This is exactly what I've been talking about all along.

Keep your bullshit perverted ideology to yourself. I don't want any of it.

I don't accept its conclusions as being valid. I don't accept its underlying premises. In a word, I don't care.

Again, I don't know who the Hell you people think you are, but you don't own sex. Sex and relationships are not a science.

They never have been and never will be. What you have posted above are opinons, and ideologically derived opinions at that; nothing more.

I mean... Really. The sheer arrogance on display here is simply staggering.

This isn't about "safe sex" and it isn't about "healthy relationships." That's been my problem with it all along.

It's about you, and people like you, promoting your "free love" ideology. You do this because you believe it like a dogma, and think the rest of us peons need to need to have it forced upon us whether we want it or not, so that we can sooner get in line and conform with your particular view of the world.

I'm sorry, but the simple fact of the matter is that you're overstepping your bounds, and people are going to let you know it.
 
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NOPE.

I'm stopping you right there.

This is exactly what I've been talking about all along.

Keep your bullshit perverted ideology to yourself. I don't want any of it.

I don't accept its conclusions as being valid. I don't accept its underlying premises. In a word, I don't care.

Again, I don't know who the Hell you people think you are, but you don't own sex. Sex and relationships are not a science.

They never have been and never will be.

I mean... Really. The sheer arrogance on display here is simply staggering.

This isn't about "safe sex" and it isn't about "healthy relationships." That's been my problem with it all along.

It's about you, and people like you, promoting your "freed love" ideology. You do this because you believe it like a dogma, and think the rest of us peons need to need to have it forced upon us whether we want it or not, so that we can sooner get in line and conform with your particular view of the world.

I'm sorry, but the simple fact of the matter is that you're overstepping your bounds, and people are going to let you know it.

This argument is about you not wanting to recognize that it is important to communicate about sex, before, during and after, and that this is the main goal of these seminars, teaching college age students how to effectively communicate about sex in order to build healthier relationships.

You are free to ignore the information all you like, but that is what this is about. Your denial doesn't change that fact.
 
This argument is about you not wanting to recognize that it is important to communicate about sex,

It's not "communication" I object too. I object to your version of it.

No, it is not "fact." It is ideology, that ideologues are trying to push as fact, in order to further their own cultural agenda.
 
It's not "communication" I object too. I object to your version of it.

No, it is not "fact." It is ideology, that ideologues are trying to push as fact, in order to further their own cultural agenda.

You don't even know what kind of "communication" is being discussed in these seminars. You are making nothing but assumptions based on your personal bias about them. The guy in charge has said that the main goal here is to encourage communication when it comes to sex, including teaching how to have more pleasurable sex along with discussing it during sex.

These are established facts that communicating about sex, before, during, and after are important for building healthy and safe sexual relationships.
 
You don't even know what kind of "communication" is being discussed in these seminars.

If they're teaching horny single young men how to more easily "get laid" outside of relationships, teaching horny single young women how to better give blow jobs to please them, and encouraging both parties to actively seek out threesomes, I can guess what kind of "communication" they have in mind. :roll:

Again, the position which holds it as being valuable is one of ideology, not "fact."
 
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If they're teaching horny single young men how to more easily "get laid," teaching horny single young women how to better give blow jobs to please them, and encouraging both parties to actively seek out threesomes, I can guess what kind of "communication" they have in mind. :roll:

Again, the position which holds it as being valuable is one of ideology, not "fact."

What's wrong with guys having sex, or girls learning how to better please their partners? What's wrong with threesomes between consenting adults who do it responsibly?
 
What's wrong with guys having sex, or girls learning how to better please their partners? What's wrong with threesomes between consenting adults who do it responsibly?

In a sense that affects me personally? Nothing... So long as you keep it to yourself, where it belongs.

The same goes for binge drinking, smoking, recreational drug usage, and whatever else you might happen to be into.

The simple fact of the matter is that there is no reason whatsoever to teach that kind of vice in institutions of higher learning. It serves no purpose.

The socio-cultural Left simply happens to have a raging hard on for spreading its sexual ideology, and is deluded enough to think it is doing the world some kind of favor in doing so. :roll:
 
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In a sense that affects me personally? Nothing... So long as you keep it to yourself, where it belongs.

The same goes for drinking, recreational drug usage, and whatever else you might happen to be into.

The simple fact of the matter is that there is no reason whatsoever to teach that kind of vice in institutions of higher learning. It serves no purpose.

Plenty of schools have social clubs surrounding drinking (wine/scotch/beer clubs) and recreational drug use (cigars).
 
Plenty of schools have social clubs surrounding drinking (wine/scotch/beer clubs) and recreational drug use (cigars).

And if this were simply about some kind of freaky "sex club" on campus, I wouldn't have any issue with it.

To the contrary, what has happened here is that the school itself has taken a de facto stance on sexual behavior on an official, institutional, basis. Not only that, but they have taken it upon themselves to spread that view to their student body through the use school funded programs.

I'm sorry, but that is simply inappropriate.
 
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If you think good sex is merely an matter of following a set of instructions, you're doing it wrong.

Exactly the point. It's more than that, but why plant all kinds of crazy ideas in kids heads which will only lead them into more trouble.


There's a lot more to that particular story than just the headline. Why not read the article before you cite it, when it does nothing for your position, or the assertion you made about it?

If you don't know how to communicate about sex with your partner, you are not going to do it in all likelihood. We know this from studying people and what they say about sex and how they communicate with their partners or how their partners communicate with them.

And there is nothing wrong with laying out how to make sex more pleasurable in a "how to" fashion, through instructions, so long as it includes communicating with your spouse whether or not that is actually pleasurable for you. If you know how to do something, at least something, going into a relationship, it can help to make the relationship better. That doesn't mean that you need to know every single way to make that other person happy during sex, nor every way that they can make you happy during sex, but rather some knowledge can help to build the relationship stronger to work toward that exploration for more knowledge.

There's a phone app out there, called Tinder, or so I've been told. It's nothing more than a hook up app. People register, find each other, and have zip less, emotionless, commitment less sex partners on demand.

Yeah, a friend of my daughter's been hooking up with the help of Tinder, and now has chlamydia.

Of course, that's just fine, normal and healthy then? In your opinion?

So where do you think this person has gotten this stupid idea in their head from then? The lack of reinforcement of self restraint perhaps? Or perhaps it was a college endorsed class or seminar where this type of sex was portrayed as being acceptable?

Princeton Professor: Cultural Elite Can No Longer Tolerate Christians
“Christians, and those rejecting the me-generation liberal dogma of ‘if it feels good do it,’ are no longer tolerable by the intellectual and cultural elite,” says George, 59, director of the James Madison program at Princeton University. Citing the political witch hunt that forced Brendan Eich’s departure as CEO of Mozilla for a small contribution to a conservative political cause, George said politically correct mobs “threaten us with consequences if we refuse to call what is good evil, and what is evil, good. They command us to confirm our thinking to their orthodoxy, or else say nothing at all.”
Princeton Professor: Cultural Elite Can No Longer Tolerate Christians | The Daily Caller

Well, academia, of course. 'if it feels good do it'. Yeah, feels really good to hook up using Tinder. Too bad the consequences don't feel all that good.

How far have the Western societies gone with sexual promiscuity and permissiveness which previously would have been deemed as degenerate?

Laws banning incest between brothers and sisters in Germany could be scraped after a government ethics committee said the they were an unacceptable intrusion into the right to sexual self-determination.
“Criminal law is not the appropriate means to preserve a social taboo,” the German Ethics Council said in a statement. “The fundamental right of adult siblings to sexual self-determination is to be weighed more heavily than the abstract idea of protection of the family.”
Incest a 'fundamental right', German committee says - Telegraph

One can only wonder how long it will take before sex between parent and child will be added to the list. We already know NAMBLA is a long standing activist for legalizing pedophilia.

How far is all this going to go? How much damage to how many people is going to be allowed to happen before some sort of self restraint is the emphasis instead of 'if it feels good do it'?
 
Exactly the point. It's more than that, but why plant all kinds of crazy ideas in kids heads which will only lead them into more trouble.

These are adults, not kids.

Yeah, a friend of my daughter's been hooking up with the help of Tinder, and now has chlamydia.

Of course, that's just fine, normal and healthy then? In your opinion?


Your daughter's friend didn't have protected sex.
 
These are adults, not kids.



Your daughter's friend didn't have protected sex.[/FONT][/COLOR]

That's obviously true. But where would this idea come from that this commitment less sex is acceptable and healthy (physically and emotionally)?

From my view, it's some very wrong headed thinking, and I don't see where a college class or seminar supporting the idea of threesomes as being the same is really doing any favors for, much less having the best interests at heart, for the young adults they are presenting it to.
 
That's obviously true. But where would this idea come from that this commitment less sex is acceptable and healthy (physically and emotionally)?

From my view, it's some very wrong headed thinking, and I don't see where a college class or seminar supporting the idea of threesomes as being the same is really doing any favors for, much less having the best interests at heart, for the young adults they are presenting it to.

What's wrong with commitmentless sex provided it's done by consenting adults in a responsible manner?
 
What's wrong with commitmentless sex provided it's done by consenting adults in a responsible manner?

I'm not sure that commitment less sex can be responsible. Isn't sex part of the human pair-bonding, which is the foundation of family?
 
So all sex out of wedlock is irresponsible? lol

Commitment generally comes before the wedding. Sometimes it doesn't make to to the wedding, but the commitment is still there.

Well it's clearly not limited to it, given that exists.

Whether it exists or not, and yes it does exist, is independent of the fact that sex is a significant part of the human pair bonding relationship. That doesn't mean that commitment less sex is healthy or good for people.
 
This argument is about you not wanting to recognize that it is important to communicate about sex, before, during and after, and that this is the main goal of these seminars, teaching college age students how to effectively communicate about sex in order to build healthier relationships.

You are free to ignore the information all you like, but that is what this is about. Your denial doesn't change that fact.

It's an example of the all too familiar "Facts must be wrong if they conflict with my beliefs"
 
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Exactly the point. It's more than that, but why plant all kinds of crazy ideas in kids heads which will only lead them into more trouble.

There are no "crazy ideas" being planted in anyone's head by these presentations unless you consider using a condom or being a gentleman is a crazy idea. Also, this is college so the presentations aren't being given to children.
 
I'm not sure that commitment less sex can be responsible. Isn't sex part of the human pair-bonding, which is the foundation of family?

I'm no longer a fan of casual sex but sex has benefits other than encouraging human pair bonding and the formation of families
 
That's obviously true. But where would this idea come from that this commitment less sex is acceptable and healthy (physically and emotionally)?

From my view, it's some very wrong headed thinking, and I don't see where a college class or seminar supporting the idea of threesomes as being the same is really doing any favors for, much less having the best interests at heart, for the young adults they are presenting it to.

The idea that hookups with strangers is a good thing did not come from these seminars. It comes from our culture. These seminars work to counter that culture in a way that isn't going to be completely ignored and makes relationships at least a little bit better, safer, and healthier.
 
I'm not sure that commitment less sex can be responsible. Isn't sex part of the human pair-bonding, which is the foundation of family?

No. Sex is not just about human pairbonding or building families. Sex can be just about pleasure. Not every human thinks the same or feels the same about sex or families or commitment, men and women.
 
If you don't like it, don't participate. This is college, not middle school. You don't have to do anything you don't want to. Grow a pair and recognize that some people might enjoy sex.
 
There are no "crazy ideas" being planted in anyone's head by these presentations unless you consider using a condom or being a gentleman is a crazy idea. Also, this is college so the presentations aren't being given to children.

I have no problems with those ideas being reenforced. However, what of the 'how to negotiate a three some' meme?
Lord only knows what other ideas this is going to push.
 
The idea that hookups with strangers is a good thing did not come from these seminars. It comes from our culture. These seminars work to counter that culture in a way that isn't going to be completely ignored and makes relationships at least a little bit better, safer, and healthier.

Other than the 'How to negotiate a three some' topic?
 
No. Sex is not just about human pairbonding or building families. Sex can be just about pleasure. Not every human thinks the same or feels the same about sex or families or commitment, men and women.

True. Sex is not just about pair bonding. But seems best kept to a committed relationship though.
 
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