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Man Beheaded Co-Worker in Moore, Oklahoma, Workplace Attack: Police

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Man Beheaded Co-Worker in Moore, Oklahoma, Workplace Attack: Police - NBC News


A fired Oklahoma food processing plant employee who proselytized for Islam beheaded a co-worker and seriously injured another before the owner of the plant shot and wounded him, police said Friday. Moments after Alton Nolen, 30, was let go from Vaughan Foods in Moore, he drove to another part of the facility and walked into a front office where he attacked 54-year-old Colleen Hufford,police said.


He used a "standard" knife — similar to the ones found at the facility — to allegedly behead Hufford. Then, he used the same knife to repeatedly stab Traci Johnson, 43, who suffered numerous wounds and remained in stable condition Friday, police said. "He obviously was trying to kill her, too," Moore police Sgt. Jeremy Lewis said at a news conference. He added that Nolen had no relationship with either victim, who were simply in his way when he flew into a rage.


Mark Vaughan, who is both the company's president and chief operating officer and a reserve deputy with the Oklahoma County Sheriff's Office, shot Nolen as he attacked the second victim. Nolen was taken to the hospital, where he is expected to survive. Police say that once he becomes coherent he will be interviewed and charged.
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Absolutely ****ing horrible. I really don't know what else to say - I'm in shock after hearing about this.

Prayers for the families of the victims.
 
This can be deleted - two of us posted the same story at the same time.
 
Has there been any reports stating this guy to be a lone wolf.....that he took up ISIS's call?
 
Will the MS media attempt to downplay any Lone Wolf attacks by ISIS Sympathizers.....here in the US and try to pass it off as something domestic and to do with crime?
 
I'm waiting for this type of response but with regard to American mosques -

"He is described as a recent Muslim convert.

I had to look through quite a few British news sites until I found it mentioned as most routinely scrub that sort of relevant information from their reporting due to what they call "community sensitivities".

What the hell is being taught in British Mosques, anyway? In an age when London is a worldwide terrorist epicenter and those beheading journalists speak with a British accent, I would think a few more Brits might want to stand up and take notice."

http://www.debatepolitics.com/break...broad-daylight-london-garden-w-335-480-a.html
 
Infinite Chaos said:
I'm waiting for this type of response but with regard to American mosques -

"He is described as a recent Muslim convert.

I had to look through quite a few British news sites until I found it mentioned as most routinely scrub that sort of relevant information from their reporting due to what they call "community sensitivities".

What the hell is being taught in British Mosques, anyway? In an age when London is a worldwide terrorist epicenter and those beheading journalists speak with a British accent, I would think a few more Brits might want to stand up and take notice."

http://www.debatepolitics.com/break...broad-daylight-london-garden-w-335-480-a.html
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A recently converted to Muslim person? What was he before?
 
DDD said:
Similarities attract.

ISIS terrorists and the previous criminal Alton Alexander Nolen.
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He got fired and went back to the workplace and murdered a former coworker. ISIS is not the first thing that comes to mind.
 
Deuce said:
He got fired and went back to the workplace and murdered a former coworker. ISIS is not the first thing that comes to mind.
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Th OP said he had no relationship with the two women he attacked.

You are bending over backwards to deflect the Muslim angle.
 
Mason66 said:
Th OP said he had no relationship with the two women he attacked.

You are bending over backwards to deflect the Muslim angle.
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*sigh*

No, he clearly had religious issues. What you don't seem to understand is that Muslim and Terrorist are not synonyms, nor are Muslim and ISIS.
 
Mason66 said:
Th OP said he had no relationship with the two women he attacked.

You are bending over backwards to deflect the Muslim angle.
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The guy was apparently recently fired, in a complete rage, and had an extensive criminal background. But no, it was Islam that all of a sudden turned him into a killer.
 
Deuce said:
*sigh*

No, he clearly had religious issues. What you don't seem to understand is that Muslim and Terrorist are not synonyms, nor are Muslim and ISIS.
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So the beheading idea was his alone and not to imitate the terrorist group?

Can you really make that stretch?
 
Mason66 said:
So the beheading idea was his alone and not to imitate the terrorist group?

Can you really make that stretch?
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So any and all decapitations that occur anywhere in the world are imitations of ISIS? Did ISIS invent beheading?
 
Kobie said:
So any and all decapitations that occur anywhere in the world are imitations of ISIS? Did ISIS invent beheading?
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Your blindness in this case can be cured by thinking a little.

Put the elements of the case together and see what you come up with.

You might be right if the beheading was by itself, which is an extremely rare way to kill somebody.

Then add the recent conversion to Islam.

Then add his rejection by his co-workers of Islam.

Then add his attack on 2 women.

What does that all add up to?

Any of those elements alone don't mean much, but together paints a picture.
 
Mason66 said:
Your blindness in this case can be cured by thinking a little.

Put the elements of the case together and see what you come up with.

You might be right if the beheading was by itself, which is an extremely rare way to kill somebody.

Then add the recent conversion to Islam.

Then add his rejection by his co-workers of Islam.

Then add his attack on 2 women.

What does that all add up to?

Any of those elements alone don't mean much, but together paints a picture.
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Yes, of a severely disturbed person who had an extensive criminal background, including assault on a police officer.

The strain of Islam that many inmates (mostly black inmates) convert to in prison is a far cry from the brand of Islam that ISIS practices, which is largely Wahabbist in nature. Unless you think Louis Farrakhan is going to start running around lopping off people's heads, then we might want to rethink this "ZOMG ISIS" nonsense.
 
Work place violence, just like man made disasters, anything to make the "man" look good in the eyes of his entitlement class.


MMC said:
Will the MS media attempt to downplay any Lone Wolf attacks by ISIS Sympathizers.....here in the US and try to pass it off as something domestic and to do with crime?
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Deuce said:
He got fired and went back to the workplace and murdered a former coworker. ISIS is not the first thing that comes to mind.
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They're labeling this as "workplace violence". Kinda makes sense since the beheading appears to have been an after thought. I wouldn't label it as such, but I can see why it would be. Still, I really hope ISIS doesn't try to use this in their recruiting effort. That's all we need is any hint suggesting that their terror campaign has hit U.S. soil so quickly and promote similar style attacks.
 
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Mason66 said:
So the beheading idea was his alone and not to imitate the terrorist group?

Can you really make that stretch?
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Would he have beheaded the woman had the idea not been planted in his head by Muslim extremist who are using Islam in a subverted fashion to carry out their brutality? No. He would have done like anyone else who's ever gone "postal" and just shot up the joint. But to pretend that his recent "conversion" to radical Islam wasn't a catalyst to his brutality is foolish.
 
Objective Voice said:
Would he have beheaded the woman had the idea not been planted in his head by Muslim extremist who are using Islam in a subverted fashion to carry out their brutality? No. He would have done like anyone else who's ever gone "postal" and just shot up the joint. But to pretend that his recent "conversion" to radical Islam wasn't a catalyst to his brutality is foolish.
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Beheading somebody is a very intimate action. If it does happen the two people usually know each other and have a history together.

To behead somebody he didn't know is evidence of something else.
 
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