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Boy Charged For Desecration Of Jesus Statue

Good for him.

Freedom of expression.
 
no 1 has ever proven that

In fact, from all the evidence we have, exactly the opposite has been demonstrated.
 
Everyone seems to be very focused on the Jesus aspect of this. Not the actual act. Funny thing is how many of you would flip if this was MLK or Obama or Reagan or someone you respected. When you look at the act as to how this kid is acting in public his parents should be ashamed and furious. This kid doesn't need to be arrested he needs better parenting.
 
Typical conservative reaction- if something pisses you off, make it against the law.

Typical hyper-partisan reaction, take one extermist and ignore the large majority of the same political lean around him saying otherwise and treat the extremist as the norm.

Multiple conservatives (actually, the vast majority of conservatives) in this thread haven't just had a different reaction than him, but many have actually condemned his suggestion.
 
Everyone seems to be very focused on the Jesus aspect of this. Not the actual act. Funny thing is how many of you would flip if this was MLK or Obama or Reagan or someone you respected. When you look at the act as to how this kid is acting in public his parents should be ashamed and furious. This kid doesn't need to be arrested he needs better parenting.

Oh, don't get me wrong....for every ridiculous "Make blasphemy a jailable offense" type person in this case you'd probably have a "OMG, THAT'S RACIST!" type person if it was the same thing done to an MLK statue. And in both cases such a stance, based singularly on the picture, are laughably dumb.

If someone wants to say it's disrespectful and the kid should be ashamed of himself and his parents need to do a better job, no problem...I can understand such an argument even if I may not fully agree. Same goes if it was doing it to an MLK statue.

But that's different than arresting the kid, let alone thinking he needs to actively be jailed
 
Oh, don't get me wrong....for every ridiculous "Make blasphemy a jailable offense" type person in this case you'd probably have a "OMG, THAT'S RACIST!" type person if it was the same thing done to an MLK statue. And in both cases such a stance, based singularly on the picture, are laughably dumb.

If someone wants to say it's disrespectful and the kid should be ashamed of himself and his parents need to do a better job, no problem...I can understand such an argument even if I may not fully agree. Same goes if it was doing it to an MLK statue.

But that's different than arresting the kid, let alone thinking he needs to actively be jailed

I am not advocating that he should be arrested. Maybe brought home by the police for being an ass in public if a cop was sitting there. But this is an issue for his parents not the legal system.
 
Really? Convervatives are the only ones pushing laws for things that piss them off? I am pretty sure liberals are making a habit out of that too buddy.

Abortion, gay marriage, drugs, whatever. Legal is the default setting, in my liberal opinion. and we don't need laws where they're not needed.
 
Typical hyper-partisan reaction, take one extermist and ignore the large majority of the same political lean around him saying otherwise and treat the extremist as the norm.

Multiple conservatives (actually, the vast majority of conservatives) in this thread haven't just had a different reaction than him, but many have actually condemned his suggestion.

Taken a poll, have ya?
Let's throw out anyone declaring 'other' or 'undisclosed' or 'libertarian without a lean' and see if the issue isn't about partisan lines.
 
This all happens because our nation loses all its moral foundations and completely degrade. Youth has nothing sacred. Where are we going to? Why is this happening?

"Our youth now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for their elders and love chatter in place of exercise; they no longer rise when elders enter the room; they contradict their parents, chatter before company; gobble up their food and tyrannize their teachers.”
Socrates (469 BC – 399 BC)
 
Taken a poll, have ya?
Let's throw out anyone declaring 'other' or 'undisclosed' or 'libertarian without a lean' and see if the issue isn't about partisan lines.

Every post below is from someone with conservative or libertarian - right lean. Not a single person if those leans expressed support for codifying blasphemy under the law or specific to the post you quoted, that the kid should be imprisoned. You bigoted,y stereotyped conservatives due to your own prejudices by taking the words of one extremist and acting like that was the norm.

And this isn't even taking into account "undisclosed" well known right leaning posters like Goshin or Vance who also disagreed with paleo

As much as I'm appalled by what this kid did I have a hard time considering it to be anything more than public indecency. From a very brief read it doesn't appear to have been an act of vandalism so I have a hard time getting to "desecration".

We do not live in the middle where desecration is a crime.Nor do we like in Canada or Britain or some other eurotrash country where hate speech is a crime. The boy did not damage the statue,so he should not even be charged with anything unless he trespassed onto the property to take that photo.

Jesus ****ing Christ, really? You God-damned religious nuts need to give it a rest.

That's pretty nasty. He's 14? I have a 14 year old and he looks a lot younger than that kid.

Sorry Paleocon, I don't think he deserves prison for that. It's lewd and disgusting, and he needs a smack upside his head, and I can certainly see & understand how it offends you, but not imprisonment.

The only thing that would matter is if he actually physically harmed the statue. He did not. He shouldn't be charged for anything else, it's all freedom of speech. If they really want to do something, get him for trespassing if they can.

Makes sense. As for the kid in the pic, I don't see any laws broken, but perhaps his parents ought to kick his ass and teach him to respect others.

As disgusting as these posed pictures are I have to agree.


I know this was not directed at me, but I for one do not want the government determining what is or is not blasphemy.

Of course not....

Personally, I wouldn't want my tax dollars used to prosecute and imprison someone for something so petty....

I am surprised you aren't calling for the auto de fe and public burning at the stake


I think its mindless what he did but under the first amendment, it shouldn't be punished

Last time I checked, our government doesn't uphold religious law and blasphemy is not illegal. Otherwise a lot of people who use the Lord's name in vain are looking at some jail time.

As a Christian I find his actions sacrilegious and irresponsible

But he shouldn't be charged for any thing more than trespassing.

When Isis blew up Jonah's tomb I wasn't incensed either.

Those who seek to attack Christianity by attacking objects or religious icons truly do not understand the heart of a Christian.

Faith isn't about worshipping man made objects or even locations that are tied to Christianity's History.

If you're able to arrive at the conclusion that it's ridiculous for him to go to jail due to first amendment issues, or that it's grossly disproportionate to the offense, so is anybody else.

And this is why I'm thankful religious extremists of any sort typically can't get substantial power in this country.

Blasphemy, an entirely religious concept, should not be codified into law. Indeed, doing such is inherently against one of the foundational principles this country's government is based on, which is that the government should not restrict individuals speech. Bringing up Sharia is ENTIRELY justified, as suggesting that people should be IMPRISONED for "Public blashpheming" is a similar sort of over the top religious based legal structure.

Exactly: Blasphemy should not be codified into law, and individual free speech, however abhorrent, should not be restricted unless it's seditious.
 
Every post below is from someone with conservative or libertarian - right lean. Not a single person if those leans expressed support for codifying blasphemy under the law or specific to the post you quoted, that the kid should be imprisoned. You bigoted,y stereotyped conservatives due to your own prejudices by taking the words of one extremist and acting like that was the norm.

And this isn't even taking into account "undisclosed" well known right leaning posters like Goshin or Vance who also disagreed with paleo
For the record...Im not 'undisclosed'. I'm a very fiscally conservative registered libertarian...just not one of those REAL libertarians. Im also more socially liberal than most extremist liberals...I just believe in EFFECTIVE social programs. I am a JFK Democrat. I changed my lean from Libertarian to Independent after one of THOSE conversations with one of THOSE Libertarians that are committed to ensure the Libertarian party well never EEEEEVVVVEEEERRRR know significant elected representation.

Now...back to the topic at hand...I agree...this and ALL laws should be changed that are in place solely to prevent people from getting their feelings hurt.
 
For the record...Im not 'undisclosed'.

Sorry, I couldn't remember exactly what your lean was but knew it was one of the ones he wanted to exclude (undisclosed, independent, etc) which is what I was trying to point out.
 
Sorry, I couldn't remember exactly what your lean was but knew it was one of the ones he wanted to exclude (undisclosed, independent, etc) which is what I was trying to point out.
Its OK...m having the same conversation with APDST in another thread on this subject about 'liberals'.
 
Every post below is from someone with conservative or libertarian - right lean. Not a single person if those leans expressed support for codifying blasphemy under the law or specific to the post you quoted, that the kid should be imprisoned. You bigoted,y stereotyped conservatives due to your own prejudices by taking the words of one extremist and acting like that was the norm.

And this isn't even taking into account "undisclosed" well known right leaning posters like Goshin or Vance who also disagreed with paleo

But you have to remember that to people like Paleo, EVERYONE that doesn't believe exactly like they do is a liberal. Everyone. Without exception.
 
But you have to remember that to people like Paleo, EVERYONE that doesn't believe exactly like they do is a liberal. Everyone. Without exception.

Oh absolutely. But my response wasn't to Paleo, it was to a completely separate poster who was holding up Paleo as some kind of example of what the "typical conservative reaction" is to this.
 
Oh absolutely. But my response wasn't to Paleo, it was to a completely separate poster who was holding up Paleo as some kind of example of what the "typical conservative reaction" is to this.

And since Paleo is a neo-con, that's laughable on the face of it.
 
He committed a heinous act of blasphemy.

Heinous to you perhaps. To me it is just a childish prank. Blasphemy only if you believe in such a thing. Childish for sure but not criminal.
 
Oh absolutely. But my response wasn't to Paleo, it was to a completely separate poster who was holding up Paleo as some kind of example of what the "typical conservative reaction" is to this.

Which is demonstrably false. Nevertheless, there will always be folks whose attitude is "Don't bother me with facts; my mind's already made up." ;)
 
Heinous to you perhaps. To me it is just a childish prank. Blasphemy only if you believe in such a thing. Childish for sure but not criminal.

Just out of curiosity do you think any of the nations monuments or national treasures should be afforded extra protections? Do you believe hate crime legislation should exist?
 
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