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Ray Rice's Wife, Janay, Defends Him and Rips Media In Statment

I don't disagree with you here. But...

I do have to say that I do think the media has taken this too far. One merely has to note that she did indeed marry the man that assaulted her. According to a few news sources that I have read, they did go to counselling and have ironed out their problems. While we do not know if they're being truthful, we have to take them at their word. Hopefully Rice has repented, and will never ever lay a hand on another woman ever again. So I personally do believe he should get another chance. Heck if she can forgive him, why can everyone else?

I don't know all of the details, but if he had held back on what had happened and then the media discovered it, the media frenzy was avoidable so to speak.
 
No, the media just ginned up the whole thing until the league had no choice but to get rid of him.

The NFL claims that it had not seen the tape in question when it dealt with his case. His coach said that the tape 'changed everything.' While the NFL and Ravens might not have done their due diligence, it is all but certain that Rice never informed either of the parties of the true magnitude of what had happened. Had he done so, his punishment might have been lengthier, but the situation would have been behind him. Almost certainly, he withheld vital details and has now wound up in a worse position than would otherwise have been the case.
 
The NFL claims that it had not seen the tape in question when it dealt with his case. His coach said that the tape 'changed everything.' While the NFL and Ravens might not have done their due diligence, it is all but certain that Rice never informed either of the parties of the true magnitude of what had happened. Had he done so, his punishment might have been lengthier, but the situation would have been behind him. Almost certainly, he withheld vital details and has now wound up in a worse position than would otherwise have been the case.

That or the coaches knew that once everyone saw it....it would make them look bad. They don't want that kind of attention. I mean look at Americas reaction. We are visual people. Seeing something with our eyes leaves a bigger impression than speculation.
 
That or the coaches knew that once everyone saw it....it would make them look bad. They don't want that kind of attention. I mean look at Americas reaction. We are visual people. Seeing something with our eyes leaves a bigger impression than speculation.

If that's the case and they chose expedience over appropriate action, then they simply do not belong in positions of leadership. On that issue, time will tell.
 
Yeah, I thought so. Her opinion doesn't count.

As much as any other abuse victim.She loves her abuser and there is possibly all sorts of other reasons she might be defending him. It doesn't make the team and NFL wrong for booting her husband.
 
With all due respect Peter, none of us know what the vast majority of players do behind closed doors.

So just assume the worst about people?

I went to a school that sent a number of kids to the NFL. The vast majority are good kids who work their tails off ecmvery day to pursue their dream. Just because there are a few rotten apples doesn't mean that the whole bunch is bad.
 
First, I am sorry that you had to deal with that as a child. No one should ever be a victim of abuse, particularly a child. But we both know it's a pipe dream, unfortunately. However, as a society, we can move forward and do the best we can to make things better. For instance, dd your mom and her boyfriend seek couple counselling? In the case of Ray and his wife, they did and -- according to them -- found reconciliation and inner peace. Did he ever admit guilt? In the case of Ray Rice, he did and seemed sorry for what he did. So why don't you think he deserves another chance? I get it... chances are, he'll do it again. But there's also a chance he will not. His wife has forgiven him and moved on, and at this point, I think we all should as well.*


*Though I do think he deserves some punishment for what he did. 2 games seems light, and the NFL admitted they missed the boat. Also, the Ravens are well within their right to release him.

Almost every man that hits his wife or girlfriend expresses remorse afterwards. Whether him and his wife went to counseling is their business. Whether she stays with him or not is their business. Whether his wife forgives him or not is their business. However, if we are going to suspend or throw guys out of the NFL for smoking a joint, then surely beating your wife or girlfriend deserves a similar penalty. I am 38 years old and have managed to go my whole life so far without ever hitting a woman. I would suspect that most guys could say the same. So not beating your wife or girlfriend is a pretty minimal standard if you ask me.
 
So let me ask you...someone murders another person, should we treat them like it was their first time?

Is it possible you could misconstrue my argument anymore? At the moment we know of one time Ray Rice hit his wife. That is it. We know of no other instances of him ever being abusive to his wife or for that matter any other woman he has ever been with. To treat Ray Rice as some sort of serial wife beater when there is ZERO evidence of that being the case is wrong. You don't treat a man that killed one person as a serial killer because there is no evidence of that being the case, so why are people treating Ray Rice as someone that beats his wife all the time when there is no proof of that?
 
I doubt that. One punch kills aren't really that feasible.

It happens, not often, but it happens. A few years ago a man walked up behind another man at a nearby Walmart and hit him in the back of the head one time. He died.
 
Ray Rice did wrong and is paying the price. The media hyenas are doing wrong too, but they will get away with it.

How dare the media report the news!
 
I can't find the part of the law that says violence against women is okay if the woman in question forgives him. And who cares what the media says? The guy committed a crime. Then, after she is knocked out, he doesn't seem to care in the least. He could have carried her out, but no, he just kind of drags her a bit. No remorse whatsoever, no shock at what he just did.

Then, the NFL tries to cover for him with a pitiful 2 game suspension. They for sure knew that there was video evidence of what he did, but they didn't want to see it. They investigate everything, this is something they do very well. Getting this tape was a phone call away. They did nothing. They look like crap here too. At this point, they had to get rid of him or the S-storm would be coming down on them.
 
Seriously people there is no evidence of any other time when he hit his wife. Just assuming it is repeat behavior and then treating him as a repeat offender is poor form. Oh and people, they did get help.

What's with all the "they" business in this thread? HE is the one who needs professional help not "they."
 
Personally, I would not have a man working for me that beat his wife. Reason being, someone like that is on the level of a child molester in my book. If his wife was willing to put up with it, then fine, that's her choice, but that would not mean I would have to pay the son of a bitch.

I would not have him working for me because if he has no problem knocking out the person closest to him, he will do that with anybody else.

If I employ him knowing that I am liable for what he does on my property.

He had to go.
 
So just assume the worst about people?

I went to a school that sent a number of kids to the NFL. The vast majority are good kids who work their tails off ecmvery day to pursue their dream. Just because there are a few rotten apples doesn't mean that the whole bunch is bad.

1) She said 'the vast majority' not 'all'.

and 2) No offense, but your statement was ridiculous;

'The vast, vast majority of NFL players are decent, hard working human beings who would never hit their wives/girlfriends'.

How on Earth do you know the 'vast, vast majority of NFL players'...'would never hit their wives/girlfriends'?

So, you can tell a person that you have never even met will NEVER hit their wife/girlfriend?

Come on now.

And just EXACTLY how can you know this about people you have never met?


Why don't you start a company for women...everytime they go on a first date with a guy, they can call and (for a fee) you will tell them if the guy will EVER hit her?

You'll make billions.
 
1) She said 'the vast majority' not 'all'.

and 2) No offense, but your statement was ridiculous;

'The vast, vast majority of NFL players are decent, hard working human beings who would never hit their wives/girlfriends'.


How on Earth do you know the 'vast, vast majority of NFL players'...'would never hit their wives/girlfriends'?

So, you can tell a person that you have never even met will NEVER hit their wife/girlfriend?

Come on now.

And just EXACTLY how can you know this about people you have never met?


Why don't you start a company for women...everytime they go on a first date with a guy, they can call and (for a fee) you will tell them if the guy will EVER hit her?

You'll make billions.

Way to entirely miss the point. I was responding to a post that called the nfl the national felons league, claiming that ray rice's behavior should be overlooked.

Yes, the vast, vast majority of NFL players are not felons, and we do know that for a fact. We also know they're hard working due to the nature of their work.

All of that aside, people deserve the benefit of the doubt. Innocent till proven guilty, if you will. Unless you have some evidence to suggest all these vast quantities of NFL players are rubbing around hitting women, the presumption ought to be that they don't.

I don't know for a fact that you don't hit women. You might. But until some evidence surfaces that you're an abusive person, I'm gonna go ahead and assume you aren't. That's how it works.
 
Way to entirely miss the point. I was responding to a post that called the nfl the national felons league, claiming that ray rice's behavior should be overlooked.

Yes, the vast, vast majority of NFL players are not felons, and we do know that for a fact. We also know they're hard working due to the nature of their work.

All of that aside, people deserve the benefit of the doubt. Innocent till proven guilty, if you will. Unless you have some evidence to suggest all these vast quantities of NFL players are rubbing around hitting women, the presumption ought to be that they don't.

I don't know for a fact that you don't hit women. You might. But until some evidence surfaces that you're an abusive person, I'm gonna go ahead and assume you aren't. That's how it works.


You said a ridiculous statement:

''The vast, vast majority of NFL players are decent, hard working human beings who would never hit their wives/girlfriends'.'

and I called you on it.


So you admit the above statement is TOTALLY unprovable?

Yes or no, please?
 
Yeah, whip me, beat me, and I'll stand by my man. :roll:

Someday, he'll punch her lights out, and she won't wake up ever again, by then, it'll be too late to save her.
 
You said a ridiculous statement:

''The vast, vast majority of NFL players are decent, hard working human beings who would never hit their wives/girlfriends'.'

and I called you on it.


So you admit the above statement is TOTALLY unprovable?

Yes or no, please?

You're demanding he prove a negative.
 
Kick Rice out of professional football and you send the message to young people, many of whom see football players as role models, that if you have dreams of becoming a professional football player, you better not be the kind of man that hits women.
Do you remember that special time in adolescence where you decided whether or not you should be the kind of man that hits women?

No, the message being sent is... If you're in the NFL and think you might have an issue with domestic violence, it's very much in your best interest to deny to yourself that a problem exists. Do everything you can to keep it quiet and to keep others quiet.
 
You're demanding he prove a negative.

One) I am not demanding anything. I am asking.

Two) Find someone else to play 'Anal retentive on a chat forum because my life is boring' with. And judging by your number of posts - 15+K in about a year - it's VERY boring.
Now you will no doubt reply with some vaguely condescending comeback that you feel is quite 'clever'.

:roll:

Good day.
 
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One) I am not demanding anything. I am asking.

Two) Find someone else to play 'Anal retentive on a chat forum because my life is boring' with. And judging by your number of posts - 15+K in about a year - it's VERY boring.
Now you will no doubt reply with some vaguely condescending comeback that you feel is quite 'clever'.

:roll:

Good day.

You seem nice.
 
One) I am not demanding anything. I am asking.

Two) Find someone else to play 'Anal retentive on a chat forum because my life is boring' with. And judging by your number of posts - 15+K in about a year - it's VERY boring.
Now you will no doubt reply with some vaguely condescending comeback that you feel is quite 'clever'.

:roll:

Good day.

Boring? Kobie is a breath of fresh air in the ****hole, what you talkin' 'bout willis?
 
Do you remember that special time in adolescence where you decided whether or not you should be the kind of man that hits women?

No, the message being sent is... If you're in the NFL and think you might have an issue with domestic violence, it's very much in your best interest to deny to yourself that a problem exists. Do everything you can to keep it quiet and to keep others quiet.

What a silly argument. Every man that hits women keeps quiet about it. What do you think that is something that guys put on their match.com profile (Faults: "sometimes I beat women, I am working on that one…"). Do want a system in the NFL where as long as the wife or spouse that gets beat publicly forgives her spouse for it, there is no penalty? "Baby I am so sorry I did this. I don't know what came over me…. It's the stress on the field… I am so, so, so sorry, but you got to forgive me or I could get thrown out of the NFL…"

It's minimal standard. If you want to make millions in the NFL, don't hit women.
 
So just assume the worst about people?

I went to a school that sent a number of kids to the NFL. The vast majority are good kids who work their tails off ecmvery day to pursue their dream. Just because there are a few rotten apples doesn't mean that the whole bunch is bad.

Because as with everything else, we don't know what goes on behind closed doors. Anyone is capable of anything. Ray Rice also worked his tail off to pursue his dream. You don't reach his caliber by being complacent, yet he is capable of bad doings.
 
Neat copout. The screaming from people about Rice's initial punishment not being enough had nothing to do with it, I guess.



Soul of compassion here.



No, the media just ginned up the whole thing until the league had no choice but to get rid of him.



See above.



That would be your choice.



As the news media and others were ginning this up with their outrage they might have paused to consider that they were not just hurting Rice but his whole family. Idiots and their stupid moral panic.

What's the penalty for the crime of knocking out a woman (or any other adult)? It's not a felony. First offence with no criminal history would be a fine of < $1000 in most states.

And so Rice must lose his career? Seems excessive.



And the woman gets no say.



We've heard from a number of people who are very sure they know better how to live Jenet's life than she does.



And then there are the mind readers and the soothsayers.

Wait a second. You're blaming everybody but Ray Rice. And I'm copping ?

Sure the backlash had plenty to do with it. That's called a business repairing it's image with its consumers.
 
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