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Ray Rice's Wife, Janay, Defends Him and Rips Media In Statment

SouthernDemocrat said:
As a kid I watched my mom get the **** beat out of her for years by her boyfriend at the time. The fact she went ahead and married him doesn't really mean much, many codependent women in abusive relationships do the same thing. I don't know if Ray Rice has hit his wife again or not. I do know though that every man I have ever known that hit women didn't quit until they were physically unable to do it anymore. If she wanted to go ahead and marry him then that's her business. However, if they will suspend you or throw you out of the NFL for smoking a joint, then they sure as hell ought to for beating a woman.
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First, I am sorry that you had to deal with that as a child. No one should ever be a victim of abuse, particularly a child. But we both know it's a pipe dream, unfortunately. However, as a society, we can move forward and do the best we can to make things better. For instance, dd your mom and her boyfriend seek couple counselling? In the case of Ray and his wife, they did and -- according to them -- found reconciliation and inner peace. Did he ever admit guilt? In the case of Ray Rice, he did and seemed sorry for what he did. So why don't you think he deserves another chance? I get it... chances are, he'll do it again. But there's also a chance he will not. His wife has forgiven him and moved on, and at this point, I think we all should as well.*


*Though I do think he deserves some punishment for what he did. 2 games seems light, and the NFL admitted they missed the boat. Also, the Ravens are well within their right to release him.
 
Peter Grimm said:
Because a large portion of the NFL's audience is young, impressionable kids. If the NFL lets this guy off with a slap on the wrist, what message does that send to, especially, impressionable young african american males?

This is the problem. Especially when taken in context with the recent string of "knockout game" assaults and the glorification of violence among our nation's youths, the NFL, as an entertainment provider to young people, needs to send the clear message that the kind of violent behavior seen in this video is NOT acceptable.
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Compared to hockey, baseball and basketball, football is quite stern it's punishment. However I do agree that player should go through some mandatory course to learn how to cope with fame and sudden riches.
 
WI Crippler said:
We are trying to get back to an "Off with their heads" style society MG. People like you are gumming up the works. It is impossible that people can have issues fixed through counseling and rehabilitation.

Until we discuss the prison system (where everyone wants to send Ray Rice), then everyone complains that our prisons are overcrowded and we should be focusing our efforts on rehabilitation.
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And around and around the wheel we go....
 
Jack Hays said:
I would argue that the message had already been sent, and the only outcome of the feeding frenzy by media hyenas has been to assault Mrs. Rice again. This was prurience, not public service.
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I'm not sure what you mean by prurience, but I can infer from the context that your point was to say that the NFL's suspension of Rice was reactionary and placatory given the ongoing media frenzy surrounding the released tape.

To that, I would respond that the league's motivations and intentions are incidental, that since they actively market to youths they therefore bear a greater social responsibility than most organizations to send the right message to that audience, and, at the end of the day, whatever their intentions or motivations are, that actions speak louder than words.

Kick Rice out of professional football and you send the message to young people, many of whom see football players as role models, that if you have dreams of becoming a professional football player, you better not be the kind of man that hits women.
 
LowDown said:
I wonder if anyone in the news media and all those sanctimoneous busybodies who think of themselves as protectors of women talked with Janay about it before destroying her husband's career.
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I wonder how warped a CON must be in their hatred of the media to twist logic around to make the 'guilty' party in this train wreck not the man caught on tape, but rather the media for reporting it. :roll:

Nevermind Rayray was caught on tape assaulting a woman- knocking her out- the media is responsible for ending Ray's career.... :doh

You SERIOUSLY think 'the media' wouldn't report this? You SERIOUSLY think NO ONE would mention the video exists and what it shows? I can hear the same ranters now changing sides if the media ignored the attack...

Let's get real....
 
Peter Grimm said:
I'm not sure what you mean by prurience, but I can infer from the context that your point was to say that the NFL's suspension of Rice was reactionary and placatory given the ongoing media frenzy surrounding the released tape.

To that, I would respond that the league's motivations and intentions are incidental, that since they actively market to youths they therefore bear a greater social responsibility than most organizations to send the right message to that audience, and, at the end of the day, whatever their intentions or motivations are, that actions speak louder than words.

Kick Rice out of professional football and you send the message to young people, many of whom see football players as role models, that if you have dreams of becoming a professional football player, you better not be the kind of man that hits women.
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Ray Rice will be back in professional football. The NFL's new policy on DV sent the message you're looking for. This latest video release was all about prurient entertainment.
 
I wonder if they're going to add this to Madden.
 
Middleground said:
Compared to hockey, baseball and basketball, football is quite stern it's punishment. However I do agree that player should go through some mandatory course to learn how to cope with fame and sudden riches.
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The NFL actively markets its product to kids and youths. I think that any corporation that actively pursues this target market, and that wants to make money pushing its product to kids, bears a greater social responsibility than other companies to make sure that they're sending a positive and beneficial message to those kids.

Quite a few kids, especially in the Baltimore area, look to Ray Rice as a role model. The NFL promotes and pushes this. Therefore, the NFL has a responsibility to send a clear message to kids everywhere that this kind of behavior is NOT acceptable and that if you have dreams of playing professional football, domestic abuse isn't going to be part of that equation.

That's my two cents anyway.
 
Jack Hays said:
Ray Rice will be back in professional football. The NFL's new policy on DV sent the message you're looking for. This latest video release was all about prurient entertainment.
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I don't doubt that he'll be back eventually once the media storm dies down. I don't think he'll play a snap this year, though, and I doubt that he ever plays another down for the Ravens.

This has Michael Vick written all over it.
 
Peter Grimm said:
The NFL actively markets its product to kids and youths. I think that any corporation that actively pursues this target market, and that wants to make money pushing its product to kids, bears a greater social responsibility than other companies to make sure that they're sending a positive and beneficial message to those kids.

Quite a few kids, especially in the Baltimore area, look to Ray Rice as a role model. The NFL promotes and pushes this. Therefore, the NFL has a responsibility to send a clear message to kids everywhere that this kind of behavior is NOT acceptable and that if you have dreams of playing professional football, domestic abuse isn't going to be part of that equation.

That's my two cents anyway.
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If we were to scrutinize every move a professional athlete does -- for the sake of the young fans -- then there'd be about enough players left for just one team.
 
Top Cat said:
You're not actually suggesting that the elevator would have been at fault? :lamo
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Oh god no. Ray and his wife might be though. I mean if the designers hadn't put the bars and wall there then she wouldn't have hit her head after he hit her. Obviously not his fault. /s.
 
Peter Grimm said:
I don't doubt that he'll be back eventually once the media storm dies down. I don't think he'll play a snap this year, though, and I doubt that he ever plays another down for the Ravens.

This has Michael Vick written all over it.
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It does not matter that Mike Vick:

1) Served his time in jail
2) Took counselling to learn from his mistakes
3) Volunteered for the Human Society for at least the last 4-5 years.
4) That the HS felt comfortable letting his family adopt a dog.

OMG...HE'S STILL A CRIMINAL DOG KILLER!
 
Middleground said:
If we were to scrutinize every move a professional athlete does -- for the sake of the young fans -- then there'd be about enough players left for just one team.
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If that were true, then kids have no business watching professional football.

However, it isn't true. The vast, vast majority of NFL players are decent, hard working human beings who would never hit their wives/girlfriends.

If you have to kick one or two bad apples out of the league to send the right message to kids, I'm all for that. It's not like it hurts the NFL either way.
 
Middleground said:
It does not matter that Mike Vick:

1) Served his time in jail
2) Took counselling to learn from his mistakes
3) Volunteered for the Human Society for at least the last 4-5 years.
4) That the HS felt comfortable letting his family adopt a dog.

OMG...HE'S STILL A CRIMINAL DOG KILLER!
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I'm a fan of Michael Vick, have followed him since Virginia Tech. Just saying the outcome of this is likely going to be similar to what Vick faced.
 
Henrin said:
My comment wasn't about him being dangerous or not, but about people treating him like a repeat offender.
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So let me ask you...someone murders another person, should we treat them like it was their first time?
 
soccerboy22 said:
Oh god no. Ray and his wife might be though. I mean if the designers hadn't put the bars and wall there then she wouldn't have hit her head after he hit her. Obviously not his fault. /s.
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I seriously doubt the designer took into consideration domestic violence in his elevator design.
 
Peter Grimm said:
I'm a fan of Michael Vick, have followed him since Virginia Tech. Just saying the outcome of this is likely going to be similar to what Vick faced.
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Ah, I see. Sorry, I read your post wrong.
 
Peter Grimm said:
If that were true, then kids have no business watching professional football.

However, it isn't true. The vast, vast majority of NFL players are decent, hard working human beings who would never hit their wives/girlfriends.

If you have to kick one or two bad apples out of the league to send the right message to kids, I'm all for that. It's not like it hurts the NFL either way.
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They don't call it the

National
Felony
League

for nothing. Just sayin'.
 
Peter Grimm said:
If that were true, then kids have no business watching professional football.

However, it isn't true. The vast, vast majority of NFL players are decent, hard working human beings who would never hit their wives/girlfriends.

If you have to kick one or two bad apples out of the league to send the right message to kids, I'm all for that. It's not like it hurts the NFL either way.
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With all due respect Peter, none of us know what the vast majority of players do behind closed doors.
 
Middleground said:
It does not matter that Mike Vick:

1) Served his time in jail
2) Took counselling to learn from his mistakes
3) Volunteered for the Human Society for at least the last 4-5 years.
4) That the HS felt comfortable letting his family adopt a dog.

OMG...HE'S STILL A CRIMINAL DOG KILLER!
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He is.
 
Middleground said:
They don't call it the

National
Felony
League

for nothing. Just sayin'.
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Fun fact: NFL players really aren't arrested much more, statistically speaking, than other people in their general age range. About the only crime category that NFL players statistically deviate from the norm in any significant way is illegal gun possession, which is likely a byproduct of being a 20-something with a lot of money.

http://deadspin.com/what-do-arrests-data-really-say-about-nfl-players-and-c-733301399
 
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