• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

FBI: Cuban Intelligence Aggressively Recruiting Leftist American Academics as Spies,

Re: FBI: Cuban Intelligence Aggressively Recruiting Leftist American Academics as Spi

Do some research, the American progressives during the progressive era in America were mostly nationalist socialist. Progressives like Woodward Wilson, Teddy Roosevelt, Dillingham, etc.

Todays progressives aren't progressives, they are something else hiding behind the progressive label.

That argument certainly can be. Look at Obama, his bailouts of private companies, his attempts to control private insurance.

The left hates to admit it-but the Nazi's were socialists.
 
Re: FBI: Cuban Intelligence Aggressively Recruiting Leftist American Academics as Spi

That argument certainly can be. Look at Obama, his bailouts of private companies, his attempts to control private insurance.

The left hates to admit it-but the Nazi's were socialists.

Your abject ignorance of history is unsurprising.
 
Re: FBI: Cuban Intelligence Aggressively Recruiting Leftist American Academics as Spi

It's not even to support his own ideology. It's simply to bash "the left," since that is all U.S. Conservative ever does.

Kobie please contribute to the discussion.
 
Re: FBI: Cuban Intelligence Aggressively Recruiting Leftist American Academics as Spi

Yayyyyy!!! Progressives are Nazis! More petty rhetoric ****!

You're making **** up again, I never said progressives were Nazis.

But Hitler did borrow a few things from the American progressive era.

Down below is an example.

Students_pledging_allegiance_to_the_American_flag_with_the_Bellamy_salute.jpg

Then you have the Hitlerjugend, better remembered as the Hitler Youth borrowed from the American progressive era BSA. Not the motorcycle dummy, the Boys Scouts of America.
 
Re: FBI: Cuban Intelligence Aggressively Recruiting Leftist American Academics as Spi

Kobie please contribute to the discussion.

The "discussion" is based on a warped interpretation of an FBI report. If you were capable of approaching the subject with a shred of honesty, maybe this "discussion" would be worthwhile. But you're not, so it's not.
 
Re: FBI: Cuban Intelligence Aggressively Recruiting Leftist American Academics as Spi

You're making **** up again, I never said progressives were Nazis.

But Hitler did borrow a few things from the American progressive era.

Down below is an example.

Still ****ing that chicken, eh?

The Nazi salute was based on a Roman salute. Its resemblance to the Bellamy salute was purely coincidental.

Then you have the Hitlerjugend, better remembered as the Hitler Youth borrowed from the American progressive era BSA. Not the motorcycle dummy, the Boys Scouts of America.

Which orifice did you pull this one from?
 
Re: FBI: Cuban Intelligence Aggressively Recruiting Leftist American Academics as Spi

You're making **** up again, I never said progressives were Nazis.

But Hitler did borrow a few things from the American progressive era.

I refer to such arguments as:

Hitler wore pants!
 
Re: FBI: Cuban Intelligence Aggressively Recruiting Leftist American Academics as Spi

The "discussion" is based on a warped interpretation of an FBI report. If you were capable of approaching the subject with a shred of honesty, maybe this "discussion" would be worthwhile. But you're not, so it's not.

The FBI has to watch for leftist spies in academia. The Communist Cubans know its fertile ground. Discuss.
 
Re: FBI: Cuban Intelligence Aggressively Recruiting Leftist American Academics as Spi

That argument certainly can be. Look at Obama, his bailouts of private companies, his attempts to control private insurance.

The left hates to admit it-but the Nazi's were socialists.

It's true, the American left supported Hitler until 1941 when Comrade Hitler attacked Comrade Stalin.
 
Re: FBI: Cuban Intelligence Aggressively Recruiting Leftist American Academics as Spi

It's true, the American left supported Hitler until 1941 when Comrade Hitler attacked Comrade Stalin.

Repeating this lie over and over again doesn't make it any more true.

I suppose Prescott Bush was a leftist, eh?
 
Re: FBI: Cuban Intelligence Aggressively Recruiting Leftist American Academics as Spi

You're making **** up again, I never said progressives were Nazis.

But Hitler did borrow a few things from the American progressive era.

Down below is an example.

View attachment 67172470

Then you have the Hitlerjugend, better remembered as the Hitler Youth borrowed from the American progressive era BSA. Not the motorcycle dummy, the Boys Scouts of America.

"nationalist socialist (formerly known as progressives) or liberal democrats"

Thats acutally known as the roman salute. It was borrowed from the Romans, not "progressive America"
 
Re: FBI: Cuban Intelligence Aggressively Recruiting Leftist American Academics as Spi

What it means is you dont like this place. Have you considered moving to europe? (serious question)

Doesnt that defeat the basic understandings of freedom, representation, free speech, democracy?
 
Re: FBI: Cuban Intelligence Aggressively Recruiting Leftist American Academics as Spi

"nationalist socialist (formerly known as progressives) or liberal democrats"

Thats acutally known as the roman salute. It was borrowed from the Romans, not "progressive America"

No no no. Most American progressives during the American progressive era were nationalist socialist. But there were also internationalist socialist and Americans who were neither who were or supported the progressives. But the majority of Americans rejected the progressive movement but accepted many parts of the progressive platform.

During the American progressive era, progressives were found in both the Democrat and Republican parties. Progressive wrote the prohibition act and wrote most of America's immigration laws until 1965. They were behind criminalizing marijuana, heroin and cocaine. Had more to do with racism. One thing all progressives had in common, they all were racist.

Until 1970 you could say the vast majority of Americans were nationalistic. The only Americans who weren't were the radical left, CPUSA, its splintter groups and internationalist socialist. But when Hitler attacked Stalin in 1941, even the American communist and internationalist socialist became American nationalist.
 
Re: FBI: Cuban Intelligence Aggressively Recruiting Leftist American Academics as Spi

If I wanted socialism, I'd go to socialism. Why spread that misery here?

Now its only about "socialism"?
Also never answered my question: "Doesnt that defeat the basic understandings of freedom, representation, free speech, democracy?"
 
Re: FBI: Cuban Intelligence Aggressively Recruiting Leftist American Academics as Spi

No no no. Most American progressives during the American progressive era were nationalist socialist. But there were also internationalist socialist and Americans who were neither who were or supported the progressives. But the majority of Americans rejected the progressive movement but accepted many parts of the progressive platform.

During the American progressive era, progressives were found in both the Democrat and Republican parties. Progressive wrote the prohibition act and wrote most of America's immigration laws until 1965. They were behind criminalizing marijuana, heroin and cocaine. Had more to do with racism. One thing all progressives had in common, they all were racist.

Until 1970 you could say the vast majority of Americans were nationalistic. The only Americans who weren't were the radical left, CPUSA, its splintter groups and internationalist socialist. But when Hitler attacked Stalin in 1941, even the American communist and internationalist socialist became American nationalist.

:doh
Awhh I see we do not learn the basic lessons of history. But none the less keep on believing you petty ****ty rhetoric you spew on here.
 
Re: FBI: Cuban Intelligence Aggressively Recruiting Leftist American Academics as Spi

:doh
Awhh I see we do not learn the basic lessons of history. But none the less keep on believing you petty ****ty rhetoric you spew on here.

I'm not a student of revisonist history. I know you have access to a good research library, go down there and start reading the newspaper articles from 1900 to 1941. Pat attention when Hitler comes to power. Pay attention to the labor strikes during 1939 to 1941.
 
Re: FBI: Cuban Intelligence Aggressively Recruiting Leftist American Academics as Spi

I'm not a student of revisonist history. I know you have access to a good research library, go down there and start reading the newspaper articles from 1900 to 1941. Pat attention when Hitler comes to power. Pay attention to the labor strikes during 1939 to 1941.

Hmmm gonna explain how strikes equate to the rise of Hitler?
 
Re: FBI: Cuban Intelligence Aggressively Recruiting Leftist American Academics as Spi

I'm not a student of revisonist history. I know you have access to a good research library, go down there and start reading the newspaper articles from 1900 to 1941. Pat attention when Hitler comes to power. Pay attention to the labor strikes during 1939 to 1941.

Also, the Italian Fascist party platform from the era sounds strikingly like the democrat party platform.
 
Re: FBI: Cuban Intelligence Aggressively Recruiting Leftist American Academics as Spi

Also, the Italian Fascist party platform from the era sounds strikingly like the democrat party platform.

Oh, is that so. Please tell us more.

I'm not a student of revisonist history.

I stopped reading there due to my uncontrollable laughter.

It's funny -- you and I had this exact same conversation several months ago, I completely demolished your asinine arguments, and here you are repeating them verbatim.
 
Re: FBI: Cuban Intelligence Aggressively Recruiting Leftist American Academics as Spi

I'm not a student of revisonist history. I know you have access to a good research library, go down there and start reading the newspaper articles from 1900 to 1941. Pat attention when Hitler comes to power. Pay attention to the labor strikes during 1939 to 1941.

Also, the Italian Fascist party platform from the era sounds strikingly like the democrat party platform.
 
Re: FBI: Cuban Intelligence Aggressively Recruiting Leftist American Academics as Spi

Oh, is that so. Please tell us more.

It is so.

- The prompt enactment of a state law sanctioning a legal work day of eight actual hours of work for all workers.

- A minimum wage.

- The creation of various government bodies run by workers' representatives.

- Reform of the old-age and pension system and the establishment of age limits for hazardous work.

- Forcing landowners to cultivate their lands or have them expropriated and given to veterans and farmers' cooperatives.

- The obligation of the state to build "rigidly secular" schools for the raising of "the proletariat's moral and cultural condition."

- A large and progressive tax on capital that would amount to a one-time partial expropriation of all riches.

- The seizure of all goods belonging to religious congregations and the abolition of episcopal revenues.

- The "review" of all military contracts and the "sequestration of 85% of all war profits.

- The nationalization of all arms and explosives industries.

Jeffrey T. Schnapp pp. 3-6; Charles F. Delzell, Mediterranean Fascism 1919-1945 (New York; Harper and Row, 1970) pp. 12-13
 
Re: FBI: Cuban Intelligence Aggressively Recruiting Leftist American Academics as Spi

Hmmm gonna explain how strikes equate to the rise of Hitler?

Greetings, TheDemSocialist. :2wave:

From what I've read, he used them to advance his agenda of controlling all business, and when that was accomplished, he then dismantled and did away with them. He then totally controlled all businesses.

My grandfather, in his will, left me boxes of Reader's Digests from the 20 year period 1930 to 1950, and they make for a very interesting history lesson, reported by the people who were living them every day. The Holocaust was just a sickening part of that history, and it was a result of all that had happened previously.
 
Back
Top Bottom