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Brown paid for cigars - Ferguson Police Busted – Attempt To Defame [WL:168]

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Scenes that didn't appear in the video that I saw. Which doesn't mean it didn't happen. It means that the video I saw doesn't show it.

That's why you posted a thread saying he's completely innocent. :lol:
 
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Scenes that didn't appear in the video that I saw. Which doesn't mean it didn't happen. It means that the video I saw doesn't show it.

Then you aren't looking at the correct sources. The video is all over the internet, you can find it anywhere from MSNBC to Breitbart. I was nice enough to post stills so you didn't have to watch the entire thing.
 
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My husband is a HUGE 2A guy. He is far more concerned about the Liberals trying to impose strict gun controls than he is worried about our local and state police forces doing anything about his guns. The police here don't try to ban guns.

The gun control policies here are fairly tame in comparison where a lot of the ones I personally know come from (they hail from places like Minnesota, Michigan, etc. they moved to ND). Nevertheless, libertarians are not immune from critiquing policy throughout the country. Many seek to take their philosophy and apply it to numerous levels of government, seeking to make changes at all levels. Their disdain or critiques of other localities and states is certainly not rare.
 
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He either did not see the video or is flat out lying.

I would say the second option is more likely, but I suppose he might just be completely ignorant of what transpired.

It is not in the video within his link, which you would have known if you watched the video at the source. Checking before making stupid accusations is generally a good thing.
 
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Has nothing whatsoever to do with this event tres's original post.

Most of the subsequent posts don't.

They are all good distractions from the debunking of the OP though.
 
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In his defense, being completely clueless does sound like him. :D

Well, it certainly must take a great deal of dedication to not see what is plain as day and to keep one's mind completely free of information.
 
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The video shown doesn't really show anything. Not without a doubt at least.

Unless you edited it, you don't know where it was edited.

Oh c'mon, we've all, except you perhaps, seen the original unedited video. These asshats who wrote the OP article made up a story and to make it true edited out the portions of the video most of us have seen to leave out the parts that destroy their lies.
 
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That's why you posted a thread saying he's completely innocent. :lol:

You'll have to show me where I said that. It just seemed interesting evidence to me, which when you take it into account throws doubt on the whole situation. Wouldn't you think?

Of course, you're the expert on what I REALLY mean...what I say doesn't make any difference to you.
 
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The gun control policies here are fairly tame in comparison where a lot of the ones I personally know come from (they hail from Minnesota, they moved to ND). Nevertheless, libertarians are not immune from critiquing policy throughout the country.

Libertarians come in all sizes. But of course, none of that has to do with the original posts that all Libertarians criticize policemen until a black man gets shot by one.
 
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It is not in the video within his link, which you would have known if you watched the video at the source. Checking before making stupid accusations is generally a good thing.

It is in the video that is so widely circulated as to be difficult to avoid.

Since you are more interested in making stupid statements, however, you decided to come after me, instead.
 
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Lmao. Tell us all again how the police aren't part of government. Please? It was fun when you were proven wrong and then doubled down by saying they're part of the Missouri government. Do you know what a government is?

:beatdeadhorse

You're wrong on the original point, but please, feel free to continue to beat that horse until you think you can slink away with a victory. The rest of us will go back to the topic of the thread.
 
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It is in the video that is so widely circulated as to be difficult to avoid.

Since you are more interested in making stupid statements, however, you decided to come after me, instead.

It is in a video, but not the one provided, so you said something stupid and it ain't your fault. Well done! Blame others for you shooting your mouth off.
 
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It is in the video that is so widely circulated as to be difficult to avoid.

Since you are more interested in making stupid statements, however, you decided to come after me, instead.

Oh, you're worried about people coming after YOU. Who gave you the golden opinion that can't be challenged?
 
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Libertarians come in all sizes. But of course, none of that has to do with the original posts that all Libertarians criticize policemen until a black man gets shot by one.

All libertarians, no. However, I have noticed at times an inconsistency in rhetoric (not that inconsistency in rhetoric is somehow absent in any political discussion from any person discussing politics), in regard to how they view law and order. At times, I am interested at how sometimes the concept of the right people needing to be free from police intervention, but then other folks kind of don't need to have that same leeway. Sometimes when I talk to libertarians I might do a double-take when they tend to agree with some of my more "sustain law and order" viewpoints regarding crowd control. I just notice sometimes when they agree with me, it tends to be about the folks that are darker skinned, poorer, or have widely differing political or social views than they do.
 
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That's why you posted a thread saying he's completely innocent. :lol:

Can you link to this thread please> I can't find it....
 
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It is not in the video within his link, which you would have known if you watched the video at the source. Checking before making stupid accusations is generally a good thing.

If Rocket is going to start a thread about the video, it would have been in his interest to actually watch the video. It's accessible at every major news site in the world. If a conservative came here with a snip from a conservative blog, and had not done homework himself, I guarantee he would be called out in the same way.
 
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Scenes that didn't appear in the video that I saw. Which doesn't mean it didn't happen. It means that the video I saw doesn't show it.

Start the video at 1:12...

 
Re: Brown paid for cigars - Ferguson Police Busted – Attempt To Defame Shooting Vict

It is not in the video within his link, which you would have known if you watched the video at the source. Checking before making stupid accusations is generally a good thing.

Good grief, it's the one part of the video that's constantly replayed. To your comment though, Rocket started a thread about this, giddy that he "paid for the cigars", which even if true, doesn't negate the assault. Perhaps the OP could have taken a little time too, to be more familiar with the video and if not, there's nothing wrong with bringing up what he's failed to mention.
 
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We can take the video at face value. It corroborates the police report. There was a theft reported. It was reported by a customer who witnessed it.

Of course they do, but for all the conservative blogs we are expected to take at face value....besides, do you trust the government to release information that's damaging to their case? I don't.

I think it's especially odd that no theft was reported according to the Market's own attorney....I'll watch it again to see if I can see where the exchange of funds happens.
 
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All libertarians, no. However, I have noticed at times an inconsistency in rhetoric (not that inconsistency in rhetoric is somehow absent in any political discussion from any person discussing politics), in regard to how they view law and order. At times, I am interested at how sometimes the concept of the right people needing to be free from police intervention, but then other folks kind of don't need to have that same leeway. Sometimes when I talk to libertarians I might do a double-take when they tend to agree with some of my more "sustain law and order" viewpoints regarding crowd control. I just notice sometimes when they agree with me, it tends to be about the folks that are darker skinned, poorer, or have widely differing political or social views than they do.

I've never met a Libertarian who thinks there shouldn't be police. Never once.
 
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If Rocket is going to start a thread about the video, it would have been in his interest to actually watch the video. It's accessible at every major news site in the world. If a conservative came here with a snip from a conservative blog, and had not done homework himself, I guarantee he would be called out in the same way.

Well, not in the same way. I would have linked to the full video without the personal attacks. He has not seen the complete video, he saw the one at his source. Time to move on.
 
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It is in a video, but not the one provided, so you said something stupid and it ain't your fault. Well done! Blame others for you shooting your mouth off.

I am just trembling in my boots, redhenna. For a little Heather routine I'd give it a 9.8

You really told me, didn't you? :lol:
 
Re: Brown paid for cigars - Ferguson Police Busted – Attempt To Defame Shooting Vict

Good grief, it's the one part of the video that's constantly replayed. To your comment though, Rocket started a thread about this, giddy that he "paid for the cigars", which even if true, doesn't negate the assault. Perhaps the OP could have taken a little time too, to be more familiar with the video and if not, there's nothing wrong with bringing up what he's failed to mention.

So giddy he actually added cautions in his OP post.
 
Re: Brown paid for cigars - Ferguson Police Busted – Attempt To Defame Shooting Vict

Can you link to this thread please> I can't find it....

Check that bold print called "a title". :lol:
 
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I've never met a Libertarian who thinks there shouldn't be police. Never once.

Neither have I. Nevertheless, when it comes to what the police can or ought not be able to do, I have encountered a number of times where that varied depending on who the person or group was (not like a terrorist or anything like that, but demographically).
 
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