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Brown paid for cigars - Ferguson Police Busted – Attempt To Defame [WL:168]

Re: Brown paid for cigars - Ferguson Police Busted – Attempt To Defame Shooting Vict

Thanks for that clarification.

Does your additional information make it impossible or still plausible for my conjecture to be reasonable and perhaps true?

Certainly still plausible.
 
Re: Brown paid for cigars - Ferguson Police Busted – Attempt To Defame Shooting Vict

I assume the officer has an automatic weapon. If so, is it not feasible that several shots were fired in a matter of seconds and the head wound you refer to may have been the last wound as Brown is falling forward onto the ground - not surrendering or giving up, but collapsing forward in death?

That may be. I don't know what type of weapon was used.

At any rate if the officer is charged, the onus is on the state to prove that it wasn't justified. Which from what I've seen would be very difficult to do.
 
Re: Brown paid for cigars - Ferguson Police Busted – Attempt To Defame Shooting Vict

Brown was laying face down on the street when the last and fatal shot was fired into the top of his head.
How else can a bullet enter the top of a 6'5" man's head and lodge in the front of his brain?
That last shot made it murder.

No he was not. No witness made any such claim and had it happened that way at least one witness would have taken note.

A person who breaks into a run toward someone else will typically lean forward and even lower their head which serves to present the top of the head to the person they are running toward. Obviously no one can prove YET that this is what happened but you asked how CAN it happen and that is one way. Your explanation that he had to be laying down is simply false. Whether you like it or not the bullet wounds are consistent with the officers supposed explanation and not all the other explanations.

We still do not know all of the evidence which has been gathered in this case but so far what is known to the public does not support an accusation of murder in fact so far what is known makes it justifiable self defense.
 
Re: Brown paid for cigars - Ferguson Police Busted – Attempt To Defame Shooting Vict

That may be. I don't know what type of weapon was used.

At any rate if the officer is charged, the onus is on the state to prove that it wasn't justified. Which from what I've seen would be very difficult to do.

There are some who are claiming that the grand jury was struck so quickly because the prosecutor in charge doesn't expect charges to come out of the process. Some are now claiming a Special Prosecutor should have been appointed because the one now in charge has relatives working now or previously for the police, and has not aggressively pursued other incidents that may have displayed police animosity towards the black community in Ferguson.
 
Re: Brown paid for cigars - Ferguson Police Busted – Attempt To Defame [WL:168]

If threads like these do not reflect upon the sorry state of identity politics, nothing ever will. If this were a case involving a white guy in a similar circumstance many would be singing a different tune, or wouldn't be singing at all because it wouldn't have been newsworthy. It is only because the cop was white and the dead man black that his is being discussed the way it is, since for the racialists here, the only thing that matters to them is the race of the people involved and not what actually happened. So severely are they crippled by their racialism that are quite willing to promote to a lie when their very eyes could tell them the truth if they were not so prejudiced by their preconceptions.

When I was a kid and read the story of The Emperor's new clothes, I wonndered how anybody could possibly be so foolish as to think the Emperor was anything but naked. Threads like these explain the phenomenon like no other.

The goal of the civil rights movement was to create a society where all people were judged on the quality of their character instead of the color of their skin. The racialsists of this forum have made a mockery of such goals, as the only thing that does matter to them is the color of the skin instead of the quality of character. How sad.
 
Re: Brown paid for cigars - Ferguson Police Busted – Attempt To Defame [WL:168]

Good morning Lady P - did you get the hot, humid weather I promised you??

As for Holder, there's no political gains to be made by publicizing the terrible black on black murder and crime taking place in Chicago, as an example. You can't race bait and drum up racial divisions when the two sides in the war are both black.

Yes, we hit 86 degrees yesterday, then we had violent lightning storms last evening! Some days you just can't win! :mrgreen: Today is the same so far, but we have an 80 percent probability of more storms later.

I have to tell you a short story about yesterday. My granddaughter told me she was sitting at a traffic red light, and it started sprinkling, then came hard rain. She continued on her way until she came to the next traffic light - same scenario. Then the third traffic light - same scenario. She told me "Gramma, that storm was following me!" I laughed so hard I nearly choked! :lamo:

I agree with you on the Holder thing, but why is it being done? Does it serve some agenda purpose to have constant strife and divisiveness? I can only conclude that it must, but how pathetic that is! It's been said that desperate governments do desperate things to manipulate people, and I guess we're seeing it proven true! Disgusting! :thumbdown:
 
Re: Brown paid for cigars - Ferguson Police Busted – Attempt To Defame Shooting Vict

There are some who are claiming that the grand jury was struck so quickly because the prosecutor in charge doesn't expect charges to come out of the process. Some are now claiming a Special Prosecutor should have been appointed because the one now in charge has relatives working now or previously for the police, and has not aggressively pursued other incidents that may have displayed police animosity towards the black community in Ferguson.

That's the real focal point. This unrest wouldn't be happening if there weren't a pattern that was percieved in that community. There might be a couple of protests, but not at this level.
 
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That's the real focal point. This unrest wouldn't be happening if there weren't a pattern that was percieved in that community. There might be a couple of protests, but not at this level.

If it were a pattern as you say, wouldn't it be fully documented? Do you have such documentation linked or available?
 
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If it were a pattern as you say, wouldn't it be fully documented? Do you have such documentation linked or available?

You think this is all about one guy? Really?

Please, how naive can you get?
 
Re: Brown paid for cigars - Ferguson Police Busted – Attempt To Defame Shooting Vict

I always shove around a clerk after paying for my smokes.
 
Re: Brown paid for cigars - Ferguson Police Busted – Attempt To Defame Shooting Vict

You think this is all about one guy? Really?

Please, how naive can you get?

I'm open to consider it's not - but can you provide some data? You seem convinced, so share all the facts and convince me.
 
Re: Brown paid for cigars - Ferguson Police Busted – Attempt To Defame Shooting Vict

Can someone point out the credit / bank card or cash in the video at this BLOG? I watched it a bunch of times and can't make out him paying and getting a receipt which is standard practice for purchasing something at a store. Huh....

And really, aren't blogs the most unbiased and truthful sources available? They simply NEVER try to push a specific point of view do they? :lamo

Everybody pushes a specific point of view, even the White House, your local police department when they've been caught in corruption, the kremlin, IS, the Likud Party, everybody.
 
Re: Brown paid for cigars - Ferguson Police Busted – Attempt To Defame Shooting Vict

You think this is all about one guy? Really?

Please, how naive can you get?

What's it about, then?
 
I always shove around a clerk after paying for my smokes.

Me too !

If the Clerk is Pakistani, they actually expect it as a part of the bartering process that is as much a part of their culture as harboring terrorists.

A good shoving around is considered a compliment.
 
Re: Brown paid for cigars - Ferguson Police Busted – Attempt To Defame Shooting Vict

This case has a lot of holes in it. I think everyone need to pump their brakes and wait for all the evidence to come out before declaring who deserve to die and who should go to jail.

There are too many moving parts.

LMAO, a little late for that. There are far more tensions in play than just this one shooting. This was just the catalyst for the underlying problem, poverty is increasing while the rich get richer. Desperate people do desperate things, such as using a shooting as a scapegoat to justify looting businesses. The ironic thing is, the looters aren't from Ferguson. Just lowlifes who see opportunity to loot, pillage, and cause trouble. I doubt the citizens of Ferguson are that dim witted to rob from and destroy their own community.
 
Re: Brown paid for cigars - Ferguson Police Busted – Attempt To Defame Shooting Vict

LMAO, a little late for that. There are far more tensions in play than just this one shooting. This was just the catalyst for the underlying problem, poverty is increasing while the rich get richer. Desperate people do desperate things, such as using a shooting as a scapegoat to justify looting businesses. The ironic thing is, the looters aren't from Ferguson. Just lowlifes who see opportunity to loot, pillage, and cause trouble. I doubt the citizens of Ferguson are that dim witted to rob from and destroy their own community.

And this is the part that frustrates me about the media. They focus on the looters as if they are the majority. Then people across the country are mistakenly bunching the looters in with the actual protestors under one umbrella. The right has some valid points about the media, but so do the left.
 
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