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Do you support legalizing gay marriage?[W:667]

Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

Keep you sex life out the the public sphere. Quit insisting on tarnishing traditional marriage. Quit imposing on private business. Quit lobbying for rights that don't exist. Quit trying to recruit our children into your ideology.

My marriage is not being tarninshed by gays being married. Do you look at your wife differently? Do you not want to be married? Seems YOU have the problem, not me. My marriage is just fine regardless of gays being allowed to marry. Really sad that you let something like this get in the way of your marriage.
 
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So you hate that women can vote?
Most of our laws against Child Labor?
That life expectancy has increased by 24 years?
Every piece of technology including the computer you're typing on since 1914?
Travel no longer takes months but at most a few days?
That you can get fruits and vegetables out of season regularly at your local grocery store?

Yeah...that's just terrible. Terrible. /S

Sure, good things have come from the Progressive movement. In the process, we have become slaves to big government.

The Progressive Movement and the Transformation of American Politics
 
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In the process, we have become slaves to big government.

You seem to have no problem using Big Government to be morality police if it suits your agenda.
 
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Then what do you have to worry about? You've accepted Christ, you've spread the word. So the question is are you going to follow Jesus' example of letting other people choose and live their lives as they wish or are you going to opposite route against his example and force people to live a "moral" life by the sword....or in this era the gun (read "law")?


Trust me, I'm not worried personally. After all, we're simply having a debate, not a trial here. by debating, perhaps readers will learn something they didn't know before or seek out additional knowledge.

Jesus didn't stay out of people's lives, he spent most of his time bringing the word of his Father to the masses.

When in the company of a woman accused of adultery (a crime punishable by stoning) he said 'Neither do I condemn you; go, and do not sin again.'" (John 8:1-11)

This is what I wish for those who lead a life of sin. In the process, it helps me recognize my own sin and how to deal with it.
 
Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

My marriage is not being tarninshed by gays being married. Do you look at your wife differently? Do you not want to be married? Seems YOU have the problem, not me. My marriage is just fine regardless of gays being allowed to marry. Really sad that you let something like this get in the way of your marriage.


What's really sad is you ask me the same meaningless questions over and over. I'm not debating this for my purposes rather for all our salvation.

You are not required read.
 
Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

What's really sad is you ask me the same meaningless questions over and over. I'm not debating this for my purposes rather for all our salvation.

You are not required read.

YOU are the one claiming that gays are tarnishing marriage. They are not. Sad that you let gays affect your own life. I respond to your posts not because I want a response from you but to show others how wrong and pathetic your soapbox really is. It's working quite well. The more you post, the more easier it is to destroy your position as pathetic and worthless.
 
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I'm not debating this for my purposes rather for all our salvation..

We give you permission to stop.

I don't want you "fighting" for my "salvation".

If you believe you'll be judged on what others do then you're even a bigger fool than I thought.

Mind your own business. Live your own life. Let others do the same.
What happens after we all die is not your responsibility or concern.

Stop trying to force others to live by your beliefs and rules.
 
Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

What's really sad is you ask me the same meaningless questions over and over. I'm not debating this for my purposes rather for all our salvation.

You are not required read.

What if I don't believe in your version of 'salvation'? Do I get a hall pass for that? Like it or not, belief, religious or otherwise comes in many shapes and forms, You may believe gay marriage is a sin, and we're all going to burn in Hell, but many don't

I'm not gay, but do I worry about the eternal soul of others who may be gay, No.

Maybe just live as good a life as you can yourself, and leave the afterlife to whatever deity who believe in
 
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The Bible doesn't teach people can reach perfection, so get a new dog. But it does teach that if people want to stay out of Hell they need to repent of their sins.

So on one hand we have 'those that do not follow the bible are not REAL christians', and the other hand we have excusing oneself for not following the bible because you can just say 'sorry' and be cleared of all wrongdoings. LOL. How convenient.

And then you 'poo poo' the actual history of the church pushing and condoning the murder of, who knows how many, non believers. Again, expected diversion.

That you (and other religious people) think one needs religion to have morals, or 'act with virtue' is part of the problem. You use your fictional book to set a standard of morals and force it upon all others. Again, very similar to extremist Islamists. You must be proud.

But it is understandable that you do not support freedom and liberty and would cherry pick the few quotes that support your view, even though they are meaningless in the grand scheme of things (and the founding of this nation). Say and do anything to push the cause of oppression of others.… very left wing AND extremist Islamist … LOL.
 
Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

I'm not debating this for my purposes rather for all our salvation.

I'm pretty sure your posts on an internet forum are not capable of 'saving' anyone. And if they were I'm sure most people here wouldn't want it.
 
Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

Thanks for the update on your local baker. Glad to see he's doing well.

There have been several of these cases (at least the ones made public) around the country. This addresses a couple to which I was referring.

Oregon bakery shuts down after gay rights attacks | Deseret News National

This is an issue with public accommodation laws, not same-sex marriage. Many states bar businesses from discriminating on the basis of sexual orientation (along with race, religion, and gender, typically). This would be the case whether or not same-sex marriage is legal. If you want to go back to a period where it's ok to put a "NO JEWS" sign up in the window of the bakery, feel free to argue for that, but I suggest doing it in a thread about public accommodation laws rather than marriage laws.
 
Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

Keep you sex life out the the public sphere. .

Sounds kinky. But I don't have sex in public. And neither do most other people INCLUDING most gays.


Quit insisting on tarnishing traditional marriage.

Your poor miserable 50% failure rate institution which you have already tarnished. Spare me.


Quit imposing on private business.

Fallacy. Businesses are free to be stupid. Excluding a segment of the population because you like to advertise your intolerance isn't smart, no matter how you justify it.


Quit lobbying for rights that don't exist.

Those rights exist in plenty of states. You are living in a state of denial.

Quit trying to recruit our children into your ideology.

Seriously? First of all. I'm straight. We can start there. The "recruitment" pap is just that. Pure paranoid right wing religious rhetoric. And you bought it, hook, line and sinker.

No one is recruiting anyone. Total nonsense.
 
Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

So on one hand we have 'those that do not follow the bible are not REAL christians', and the other hand we have excusing oneself for not following the bible because you can just say 'sorry' and be cleared of all wrongdoings. LOL. How convenient.

And then you 'poo poo' the actual history of the church pushing and condoning the murder of, who knows how many, non believers. Again, expected diversion.

That you (and other religious people) think one needs religion to have morals, or 'act with virtue' is part of the problem. You use your fictional book to set a standard of morals and force it upon all others. Again, very similar to extremist Islamists. You must be proud.

But it is understandable that you do not support freedom and liberty and would cherry pick the few quotes that support your view, even though they are meaningless in the grand scheme of things (and the founding of this nation). Say and do anything to push the cause of oppression of others.… very left wing AND extremist Islamist … LOL.

All that is just more hubris from the anti-Christian crowd.

And like I said, the next time you're down and out try finding a BITTER ATHEIST'S HOMELESS SHELTER.
 
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In the process, it helps me recognize my own sin and how to deal with it.

Now there's a place you should concentrate.
 
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All that is just more hubris from the anti-Christian crowd.

And like I said, the next time you're down and out try finding a BITTER ATHEIST'S HOMELESS SHELTER.


There are lots of secular homeless shelters.
 
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There are lots of secular homeless shelters.

He said a BITTER ATHEIST HOMELESS SHELTER.
Secular doesn't mean atheist nor does it mean bitter. ;)
 
Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

Thanks for the update on your local baker. Glad to see he's doing well.

There have been several of these cases (at least the ones made public) around the country. This addresses a couple to which I was referring.

Oregon bakery shuts down after gay rights attacks | Deseret News National
This is an issue with public accommodation laws, not same-sex marriage. Many states bar businesses from discriminating on the basis of sexual orientation (along with race, religion, and gender, typically). This would be the case whether or not same-sex marriage is legal. If you want to go back to a period where it's ok to put a "NO JEWS" sign up in the window of the bakery, feel free to argue for that, but I suggest doing it in a thread about public accommodation laws rather than marriage laws.


That's not even an issue of Public Accommodation laws. It was market forces at work and not government shutting down a business.

In the Sweetcakes by Mellisa instance they closed their storefront (they still operate a home based service last I read) because the community didn't want to buy their product after the issue hit the media. The community stopped buying product there and they told wedding planners and other vendors that they would not use their services if they did business with the bakery.

Sweetcakes is actually an example of not needing government intervention, it's an example of the market making it's voice heard.



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Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

We give you permission to stop.

I don't want you "fighting" for my "salvation".

If you believe you'll be judged on what others do then you're even a bigger fool than I thought.

Mind your own business. Live your own life. Let others do the same.
What happens after we all die is not your responsibility or concern.

Stop trying to force others to live by your beliefs and rules.


Feeling run down...lethargic? Could be that stick in your butt.

Seriously why so hostile?
 
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He said a BITTER ATHEIST HOMELESS SHELTER.
Secular doesn't mean atheist nor does it mean bitter. ;)

LOL touche~
 
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What if I don't believe in your version of 'salvation'? Do I get a hall pass for that? Like it or not, belief, religious or otherwise comes in many shapes and forms, You may believe gay marriage is a sin, and we're all going to burn in Hell, but many don't

I'm not gay, but do I worry about the eternal soul of others who may be gay, No.

Maybe just live as good a life as you can yourself, and leave the afterlife to whatever deity who believe in

No you don't have to believe but, if you did to would help the cause. ;)
 
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I'm pretty sure your posts on an internet forum are not capable of 'saving' anyone. And if they were I'm sure most people here wouldn't want it.

You get that impression too?

It's all bout knowledge and application.
 
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True, there are many causes of Judgment. But if you think for one second SSM's won't add to the risk, then you're living in la la land.

Wrong. I am living in reality instead of trying to force my beliefs on others. You cannot prove that God is responsible for any natural disasters or any disasters at all, so the only "increased risk" is in your own mind.
 
Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

This is an issue with public accommodation laws, not same-sex marriage. Many states bar businesses from discriminating on the basis of sexual orientation (along with race, religion, and gender, typically). This would be the case whether or not same-sex marriage is legal. If you want to go back to a period where it's ok to put a "NO JEWS" sign up in the window of the bakery, feel free to argue for that, but I suggest doing it in a thread about public accommodation laws rather than marriage laws.

The question was about discrimination against religious belief.
 
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