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Do you support legalizing gay marriage?[W:667]

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Dragonfly said:
Didn't I suggest that very thing to you like about a thousand posts ago.....

God makes gay people, god will deal with gay people, and therefore YOU don't have to worry about gay people or what they do.

You're time would be much more productively spent worrying about world hunger, poverty, education, healthcare, literacy..........
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You're right. I give up trying to make you people see the light.

I'm walking away knowing that I at least tried to keep y'all from the eternal frying pan.

See ya!
 
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WCH said:
People in Hell want ice water...oh wait! 8)
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I'm sure you'll be in hell with the best of them. But then again only God knows your ultimate fate, right? I hope if you do end up there you can at least laugh at the irony. Whole life spent trying to "save" people through hate and intolerance and you couldn't even save yourself.
 
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WCH said:
You're right. I give up trying to make you people see the light.

I'm walking away knowing that I at least tried to keep y'all from the eternal frying pan.

See ya!
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There is no Hell. There is no Devil. There is no Heaven. There is no God.

However, I doubt that minding my own friggin business, and not being concerned with what consenting adults do in their own bedrooms will be the deciding factor on which mythological place I end up in.
 
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WCH said:
Pot meet kettle.
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Have ever said I want to force you into a homosexual marriage or any marriage for that matter?
 
Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

WCH said:
Pot meet kettle.
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Not equivalent, because same-sex marriage doesn't force you to do anything. Nor does it restrict any of your intended actions. Conversely, enshrining your beliefs into the law of the nation restricts the freedom of others.
 
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Peter King said:
Yes, some muslims are monsters but even then, Islam is a religion so a country that is Islamic can never be a country that has no religion.
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Name a Islamic country that does not persecute Christians and Jews.
 
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Deuce said:
Not equivalent, because same-sex marriage doesn't force you to do anything. Nor does it restrict any of your intended actions. Conversely, enshrining your beliefs into the law of the nation restricts the freedom of others.
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Sure it does it forces you to believe that SSM is the same as traditonal marraige when it clearly is not.
 
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Navy Pride said:
Name a Islamic country that does not persecute Christians and Jews.
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Dude you are arguing yourself deeper. Either wake up and realize that you are making arguments that do not support what you claimed, or admit that you are changing your premise. Your argument was NOT that there were countries that banned all but one religion. Your argument was that there were countries that banned all religion.
 
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Navy Pride said:
Sure it does it forces you to believe that SSM is the same as traditonal marraige when it clearly is not.
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Negative. Legalizing SSM as a legal institution only means that it holds the same legal weight as OSM. At no point does that equate to saying that SSM and OSM hold the same social weight.
 
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I don't understand why religious people are not on board with civil unions for everyone and call it what one wants according to whatever authority one respects.

What's the problem with that?
 
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Navy Pride said:
Sure it does it forces you to believe that SSM is the same as traditonal marraige when it clearly is not.
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It is already legal in your state. What has changed?
 
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Dragonfly said:
You're time would be much more productively spent worrying about world hunger, poverty, education, healthcare, literacy..........
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Heck if one is worried about families there are plenty of problems with straight couples to keep a person occupied. Divorce, deadbeat dads, child abuse.... Why worry about couples wanting to make a commitment to each other? Seems like the more of that the better for everyone.

I've never understood the passionate opposition to SSM. What would make someone devote serious effort to denying others the benefit of rights they enjoy? So the gay couple is less happy, secure, committed, their legal status murkier and more difficult and more expensive. Time to celebrate a job well done? "I treasure my marriage therefore same sex couples must be denied marriage!!!" ???

After all it's not as if preventing SSM will turn any gay person straight or allowing it will make a straight person gay.
 
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Navy Pride said:
Sure it does it forces you to believe that SSM is the same as traditonal marraige when it clearly is not.
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What?

How does a law "force you to believe" anything?
 
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WCH said:
I'm walking away knowing that I at least tried to keep y'all from the eternal frying pan.
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I feel pretty good that judging others too kindly and not sufficiently condemning the sins of others is not my biggest worry with regard to how God will judge my life and where I failed.
 
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Navy Pride said:
Name a Islamic country that does not persecute Christians and Jews.
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I did not make any comment about that. Most likely will do but that was not the point. You stated loads of countries that ban religion and you were wrong with that statement. Because as said, they ban other religions not "religion" itself.
 
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Logicman said:
Nice try.
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Nope, not a try, just simply historical fact. I see the retort is 'not real christians'… I'm guessing that would mean 99% of them are not 'real'… and I wonder if you separate out muslims in a similar fashion.

WCH said:
Even Allah knows it's an abomination. He would have homosexuals stoned to death while, Christians only want them to stop sinning.
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Intolerance is intolerance…. and christians have a history of stoning people to death.
 
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Arbo said:
Nope, not a try, just simply historical fact. I see the retort is 'not real christians'… I'm guessing that would mean 99% of them are not 'real'… and I wonder if you separate out muslims in a similar fashion.



Intolerance is intolerance…. and christians have a history of stoning people to death.
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I know of no Christians who have stoned anyone to death........Now your radical Muslim friends is another matter.
 
Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

Navy Pride said:
Name a Islamic country that does not persecute Christians and Jews.
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Name an Islamic country that is not an Islamic country.
 
I support government getting out of the marriage business. I also support the right of businesses not to service gay weddings if the weddings offend their moral sensibilities. Basically, I don't care if gays marry. I just don't want to be forced to bake them a cake, sell them flowers or take their pictures.
 
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ecofarm said:
I don't understand why religious people are not on board with civil unions for everyone and call it what one wants according to whatever authority one respects.

What's the problem with that?
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I'm good with this. In the end, it doesn't matter what it is called, as long as legally all couples obtaining this legal status have the exact same rights and responsibilities. It'll most likely still be called marriage by society as a whole and even by government workers. But the legal aspect is far more important than the label.
 
Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

Navy Pride said:
I know of no Christians who have stoned anyone to death........Now your radical Muslim friends is another matter.
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I might be able to let that one slide and a Jewish thing as it was more an OT type of thing vice NT. But how about Christians who have burned women at the stake (men too), drowned women, tortured and executed others all for the sake of their religion.

Oh what's that? You don't personally know of any such people? Guess what? You don't personally know of any such Muslims either. Oh sure you know of such individuals via news and other information sources. You also know of such Christians via information sources. Any denial of knowledge of the Inquisition and the Witch Hunts would have to be a lie on your part as these are common knowledge items. Knowledge of details, yes, but there is little credibility of not knowing about what Christians have done, and still do (abortion clinic and doctor bombing and murders, Irish Catholic/Protestant war) in the name of their religions.

Of course all this still has nothing to do with the fact that you claim that there are countries that ban religion and yet you cannot name a single one.
 
sawdust said:
I support government getting out of the marriage business. I also support the right of businesses not to service gay weddings if the weddings offend their moral sensibilities. Basically, I don't care if gays marry. I just don't want to be forced to bake them a cake, sell them flowers or take their pictures.
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I'm good with the latter part, but legal marriage is still needed to establish legal relationship status between those who are not blood related, similar to how adoption works. Marriage is still needed as a legal status, but I will agree that all the currently is attached to marriage in the legal sphere is not necessary. Some but not all.
 
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