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Do you support legalizing gay marriage?[W:667]

Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

WCH said:
I have no problem with a civil union but, that doesn't seem to be good enough for Gays.
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The very fact that you have to differentiate between a civil union and marriage shows that they are not the same thing.
 
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Navy Pride said:
Your right it does serve a purpose and that purpose is to cheapen traditional marriage.
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Navy....adultrey does more to "cheapen traditional marriage" than gay marriage ever will....but yet....you never seem to speak out on that subject.....hmmmmmm.....hypocrisy much?
 
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WCH said:
I have no problem with a civil union but, that doesn't seem to be good enough for Gays.
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There was a time when most gay people would have been happy with civil unions....however those who are now the most vocal in the anti-marriage equality crowd opposed civil unions tooth and nail. All of a sudden...because gay marriage is becoming a reality, they are ok with civil unions and are crying "why aren't civil unions good enough for you guys". Sorry....but that ship has sailed. You can take your civil unions and shove them straight up your $%*
 
Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

WCH said:
Yes but, if it's against the will of the people, that Governor or official can be removed post haste.
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That's exactly what we don't want. There's a reason this country was created as a republic instead of a democracy. A democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. Democracy allows the rights of the minority to be trampled by the majority.

Individual liberty should never be put to a popular vote. You don't have the right to infringe on the freedoms of others just because you have a majority behind you.
 
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Geoist said:
It doesn't really matter what the Founder would've thought. After all, many of them were slaveowners and womanizers.




A true defender of liberty would not put individual freedoms up for a vote.
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Did not the Founders write most of this freedom and liberty stuff you are spouting?
 
Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

WCH said:
Then tell me what it's purpose is?
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To give the same rights/responsabilities that couples in straight marriages have.
 
Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

WCH said:
Did not the Founders write most of this freedom and liberty stuff you are spouting?
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They had many great ideas and I respect them on that. But they were also no infallible. Sometimes so-called 'Christian' conservatives forget that.
 
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disneydude said:
There was a time when most gay people would have been happy with civil unions....however those who are now the most vocal in the anti-marriage equality crowd opposed civil unions tooth and nail. All of a sudden...because gay marriage is becoming a reality, they are ok with civil unions and are crying "why aren't civil unions good enough for you guys". Sorry....but that ship has sailed. You can take your civil unions and shove them straight up your $%*
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Militant are we?

I rest my case.
 
Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

WCH said:
Militant are we?

I rest my case.
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A figure of speech makes one militant? :lol:
 
Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

WCH said:
Only here.
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No doubt this is as close to diversity as you care to see.
 
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Simon Feltser said:
Well, they still bring up children. And this is a problem. Education of person by same sex parents, surrounded by same-sex couples, can lead (and probably will) to the non-recognition of his gender identity in principle. That is, children will grow as an asexual being. The precedent was when 11-year-old boy who was adopted by two lesbians, said that he denies his gender identity and wants to be like a "two mothers." In this regard, moms started to feed him by hormonal drugs, which have detrimental effect on physical health in this age. Also, because of this education, the psyche of a boy suffered so much that he can not perceive himself as he is
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You really think an unproven anecdote is an argument against same sex marriage? Gender identity issues exist in any combination of parenting. You'll have to prove that this is something more prevalent with same sex parents. And that it's attributable to gender of the parents, as opposed to drugs that may or may not have been warranted.
 
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WCH said:
Militant are we?

I rest my case.
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Tone fallacy. Last refuge of a man who has had all of his arguments destroyed over and over.
 
Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

WCH said:
Guess the founders never envisioned the patent sinfulness of the 21 century.

Let's put it to a vote.
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No, let's vote on your right to be married instead. Or how about your right to build a church?
 
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Geoist said:
A figure of speech makes one militant? :lol:
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When he insists the gays will burn in hell, though, he's not militant. Just expressing his opinion, you're not allowed to criticize an opinion.
 
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Papa bull said:
I think the majority of society is just tired of hearing about it. Most of the societies in the world want no part of it and only a small minority of states have undertaken the grand gay experiment of creating the oxymoron of homosexual marriage. You know, even if all the states adopt this absurdity, it is still a natural oxymoron; a human construct that no longer reflects the natural state that marriage was designed to accommodate and support.
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There is no such thing as a "natural state" regarding marriage. Marriage is a human construct.
 
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Papa bull said:
Natural is absolutely a basis for laws. You can't bugger a horse because it's unnatural. Maybe you think you should be able to but the law says you can't.

I suppose that'll be the next prohibition on the list for freedom fighters like yourself to assault. :lol:
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Slippery slope fallacy.
 
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Navy Pride said:
Your right it does serve a purpose and that purpose is to cheapen traditional marriage.
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Which is a complete load of crap. How is your "traditional marriage" cheapened if Adam and Steve down the street are allowed to enter into a legal contractual pairing with each other?
 
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Juanita said:
That over 65 crowd who opposes SSM really bugs me..these were the flower children of the 6Os, the peaceniks, the free love crowd, protestors and now they have been "saved" or something and become straight and narrow. They no longer see clearly or remember who they used to be.
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Not every teen or young adult in the 1960s was a dope smoking pill popping hippy.
 
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Anthony60 said:
So, why does it lose at the polling place if all these polls are showing that Americans support changing the definition of marriage?
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Because the ass-backwards bigots are very good at mobilizing their forces.

The most reliable voting bloc in regards to turnout is old people, who are also the ones mostly against SSM.
 
Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

WCH said:
Militant are we?

I rest my case.
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Absolutely. The point being....you guys had your chance but you wanted to have your cake and eat it too. Now....you are realizing that you are going to have neither...you all of a sudden expect gays to scrounge for the crumbs. Ain't happening Buddy.
 
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Deuce said:
No, let's vote on your right to be married instead. Or how about your right to build a church?
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Sure....those are winners.
 
Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

disneydude said:
Absolutely. The point being....you guys had your chance but you wanted to have your cake and eat it too. Now....you are realizing that you are going to have neither...you all of a sudden expect gays to scrounge for the crumbs. Ain't happening Buddy.
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Oh like we're making some sort of deal or something.

Don't count your chickens...
 
Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

Anthony60 said:
So, why does it lose at the polling place if all these polls are showing that Americans support changing the definition of marriage?
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Check the scoreboard from 2012, chief. I'd point at 2014 and make predictions, but it seems all the anti-equality measures are being yanked because the GOP knows they're gonna lose those votes.
 
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