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Do you support legalizing gay marriage?[W:667]

Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

Being utterly intolerant of any creed, belief, or opinion that differs from one's own?

Seems that could work both ways here.

So sick of this argument. As a heterosexual, are you being stopped from marrying someone of the opposite sex?
 
Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

Links to these "facts"???


There are all kinds of "rights" and "privileges" wrapped up in legal marriage. Taxes, property rights, insurance, powers of attorney and medical rights, death benefits and the like and more.


....none of which are reasons people actually, you know, GET MARRIED. and a simple civil law could cover all those things you mention.

and here's the link you asked for.

http://www.dakotavoice.com/2008/09/definition-of-monogamy-very-loose-in-homosexual-community/
http://www.dakotavoice.com/2008/09/definition-of-monogamy-very-loose-in-homosexual-community/
 
Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

The reason people should care is because the evolution of society has developed to a point where somehow what you do may cost me tax dollars.

Controlling it has already cost you tax dollars. A trillion dollars to be exact.

War on drugs a trillion-dollar failure - CNN.com
Drug War Statistics | Marijuana Statistics | Mexico Drug War Deaths | Drug Policy Alliance
AP IMPACT: After 40 years, $1 trillion, US War on Drugs has failed to meet any of its goals | Fox News


This particular fact should interest you: "This study found that the savings of supply-control programs are smaller than the control costs (an estimated 15 cents on the dollar for source-country control, 32 cents on the dollar for interdiction, and 52 cents on the dollar for domestic enforcement). In contrast, the savings of treatment programs are larger than the control costs; we estimate that the costs of crime and lost productivity are reduced by $7.46 for every dollar spent on treatment."
Economics | Drug War Facts
 
Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

Your right it does serve a purpose and that purpose is to cheapen traditional marriage.

Then I guess we better start banning those quickie weddings in Las Vegas.
 
Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

There hasn't been a vote taken on same sex marriage in years. I believe it was 2012. NC voted in their ban, yet two years before that, 3 states voted to legalize same sex marriage and a fourth state voted to not place a ban in effect, paving the way for same sex marriage to become legal in that state.

It comes down to the fact though that voters do not represent all of America. They don't get to solely decide who gets rights or equal protection and who doesn't.

So, you think it loses at the polls because people might support it, but don't care enough to go vote for it? That's a possibility. See, I don't care about it that much, but I do care a lot that the federal government has no place telling a State whether or not to change how they handle marriage. And I don't consider it an equal rights issue in the least.
 
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It is written in a book. You happen to believe that book is really inspired by God. Many others don't believe that at all. Your opinion is not fact, nor can you prove that what is "written" is really what God wants, rather than simply some guys who lived a long time ago and other guys who want to believe what those guys wrote.

Many other religions see it as either a sin, abnormality or unnatural. It's far from being just a personal decision.

Homosexuality Comparison Chart - ReligionFacts
 
Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

So sick of this argument. As a heterosexual, are you being stopped from marrying someone of the opposite sex?

LOL! Yes because her parents are Gay and always wanted her to be weird.

I've been happily married to my Wife going on 18 years now.
 
Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

LOL! Yes because her parents are Gay and always wanted her to be weird.

So what? Is she an adult? She can make her own decision if she wants to marry you. Same should go for a gay couple.
 
Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

Many other religions see it as either a sin, abnormality or unnatural. It's far from being just a personal decision.

Homosexuality Comparison Chart - ReligionFacts

There are 1 billion people who consider eating pork a sin. There are another 1.4 billion who consider eating cows a sin. All because of religion - and yet... none of it matters to Americans. We eat hot dogs and have steak. Their personal religious decisions are irrelevant and your ad populum argument is a giant fallacy.
 
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Christianity.

1 Timothy 5:20 ESV

As for those who persist in sin, rebuke them in the presence of all, so that the rest may stand in fear.

James 5:20 ESV

Let him know that whoever brings back a sinner from his wandering will save his soul from death and will cover a multitude of sins.

2 Timothy 4:2 ESV

Preach the word; be ready in season and out of season; reprove, rebuke, and exhort, with complete patience and teaching.

What Does the Bible Say About Rebuking?

Do you do everything the bible tells you to do, or do you conveniently ignore many parts of it like most people who call themselves christian?
 
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Good maybe they'll have a revelation., "Go and sin no more"

Thank you for admitting that your position is based on no logic but religious bigotry. It makes it much easier to dismiss your opinion for the hateful garbage that it is.
 
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Which has absolutely nothing to do with how a secular government should pass laws.

A secular government [The FedGov] shouldn't be passing laws concerning marriage. That should be left to the states as it has been in the past.
 
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Do you do everything the bible tells you to do, or do you conveniently ignore many parts of it like most people who call themselves christian?

I hope he makes sure his girlfriend keeps her head covered when they go to church. :mrgreen:
 
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A secular government [The FedGov] shouldn't be passing laws concerning marriage. That should be left to the states as it has been in the past.

Then I assume you oppose DOMA?

States should be secular, as well. Oppression by decentralized government rather than a centralized government is still oppression.
 
Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

There are 1 billion people who consider eating pork a sin. There are another 1.4 billion who consider eating cows a sin. All because of religion - and yet... none of it matters to Americans. We eat hot dogs and have steak. Their personal religious decisions are irrelevant and your ad populum argument is a giant fallacy.

Yep when there's no argument left, it comes down to my opinions [or billions of others] are irrelevant.

The truth is, homosexuals are closer to irrelevant than anything else.
 
Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

Yep when there's no argument left, it comes down to my opinions [or billions of others] are irrelevant.

The truth is, homosexuals are closer to irrelevant than anything else.

When it comes to basic rights, every individual is relevant and the personal beliefs of a billion are irrelevant.
 
Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

Then I assume you oppose DOMA?

States should be secular, as well. Oppression by decentralized government rather than a centralized government is still oppression.

It's not a duty of the FedGov. especially when they can change their opinion [and the law] on a whim.

Not allowing people to change the meaning of marriage is not oppression.
 
Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

It's not a duty of the FedGov. especially when they can change their opinion [and the law] on a whim.

That makes no sense. States can change laws, as well

Not allowing people to change the meaning of marriage is not oppression.

Not allowing consenting adults to form a contract IS oppression.
 
Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

It's not a duty of the FedGov. especially when they can change their opinion [and the law] on a whim.

State governments can do that too...
 
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Yep when there's no argument left, it comes down to my opinions [or billions of others] are irrelevant.

You made the argument that the opinion of billions was relevant. It isn't. It has nothing to do with rights. They're not decided by way of opinion.
 
Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

When it comes to basic rights, every individual is relevant and the personal beliefs of a billion are irrelevant.

Guess the founders never envisioned the patent sinfulness of the 21 century.

Let's put it to a vote.
 
Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

State governments can do that too...

Yes but, if it's against the will of the people, that Governor or official can be removed post haste.
 
Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

That makes no sense. States can change laws, as well



Not allowing consenting adults to form a contract IS oppression.

I have no problem with a civil union but, that doesn't seem to be good enough for Gays.
 
Re: Do you support legalizing gay marriage?

Guess the founders never envisioned the patent sinfulness of the 21 century.

It doesn't really matter what the Founder would've thought. After all, many of them were slaveowners and womanizers.


Let's put it to a vote.

A true defender of liberty would not put individual freedoms up for a vote.
 
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