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Has Rand Paul raised 2016 prospects with Ferguson response?

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Sen. Rand Paul said that police moves in Ferguson 'resemble war' and that anyone who thinks that race, even inadvertently, doesn't 'skew the application of criminal justice in this country is just not paying close enough attention'.

Read the article here: Has Rand Paul raised 2016 prospects with fiery Ferguson response? - CSMonitor.com




Well I'd like to hear others opinions, But Sen. Rand Paul has certainly got my attention with his spot-on comments.
 
As long as he sticks mostly to the Libertarianesque side of the Republican party (however small), he will get my vote, and I've never voted for a Republican.

I think the government has committed a lot of overreach in the past few decades and it's time for an adjustment. The more Paul sells himself as anti-statist and pro-liberty, the better off I think he, and we will be.
 
 
TeleKat said:
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So much for that. :shrug:
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Aye, therein lies the rub. In order to actually get elected in this country he has to become more statist and more republican. This is precisely why our political system is so ****ed as a dual party system. We're trying to fit 300 million different types of people into 2 singular platforms.

Nevertheless, if he doesn't just go full-retard I might still vote for him. If not, I'll vote libertarian again and be sadly disappointed once more.
 
RabidAlpaca said:
Aye, therein lies the rub. In order to actually get elected in this country he has to become more statist and more republican. This is precisely why our political system is so ****ed as a dual party system. We're trying to fit 300 million different types of people into 2 singular platforms.

Nevertheless, if he doesn't just go full-retard I might still vote for him. If not, I'll vote libertarian again and be sadly disappointed once more.
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I'd say claiming that Libertarians "want to run around naked smoking weed" and warning that civilization will collapse if people don't become more pro-life is going full-retard. But that's just me :shrug:

I'll probably be voting Libertarian or Green depending on who they put up. Rand Paul is a shill, he's been a shill, and I don't vote for shills. I vote for statesmen. Real, honest, consistent people. Just a personal preference. ;)
 
Rand Paul continues to flip--flop on nearly every issue, especially with his denials on civil rights and voting rights.
He usually stays pretty close to his Amash coalition of no drones, no war, no spying--appealing to loose OWS/Bernie Sanders supporters .
 
TeleKat said:
I'd say claiming that Libertarians "want to run around naked smoking weed" and warning that civilization will collapse if people don't become more pro-life is going full-retard. But that's just me :shrug:

I'll probably be voting Libertarian or Green depending on who they put up. Rand Paul is a shill, he's been a shill, and I don't vote for shills. I vote for statesmen. Real, honest, consistent people. Just a personal preference. ;)
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I loved his father, but he didn't have the sleezeball political appeal that gets presidents elected. I feel like Rand is Ron Paul light, with that missing dash of sleezeball political appeal. I truly hope he's just playing ball with the republican party so he can get a nomination and I have to believe that anyone raised by Ron Paul has to be light years better than the ****s we've been electing lately.

Politicians almost always do the exact opposite of what they run on. Why can't it work here for our advantage for once?
 
shrubnose said:
Sen. Rand Paul said that police moves in Ferguson 'resemble war' and that anyone who thinks that race, even inadvertently, doesn't 'skew the application of criminal justice in this country is just not paying close enough attention'.

Read the article here: Has Rand Paul raised 2016 prospects with fiery Ferguson response? - CSMonitor.com




Well I'd like to hear others opinions, But Sen. Rand Paul has certainly got my attention with his spot-on comments.
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Paul was/is a marginal candidate for the Republican nomination. His stance vis-a-vis police as stated here will do absolutely nothing to endear him to Republican primary voters. Therefore, in my view, his chances of securing the Republican nomination are now less than marginal. But he will get a lot of the liberal media's attention.
 
RabidAlpaca said:
I loved his father, but he didn't have the sleezeball political appeal that gets presidents elected. I feel like Rand is Ron Paul light, with that missing dash of sleezeball political appeal. I truly hope he's just playing ball with the republican party so he can get a nomination and I have to believe that anyone raised by Ron Paul has to be light years better than the ****s we've been electing lately.

Politicians almost always do the exact opposite of what they run on. Why can't it work here for our advantage for once?
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With the support Paul is giving McConnell in his reelection, he is building some favors.
I see Paul as the first true 3rd party candidate in 2020 since Perot, especially if he can get a sugar daddy.
This time however, he needs a complete up and down the ticket approach in all 50 states, not just one guy .
 
RabidAlpaca said:
I loved his father, but he didn't have the sleezeball political appeal that gets presidents elected. I feel like Rand is Ron Paul light, with that missing dash of sleezeball political appeal. I truly hope he's just playing ball with the republican party so he can get a nomination and I have to believe that anyone raised by Ron Paul has to be light years better than the ****s we've been electing lately.

Politicians almost always do the exact opposite of what they run on. Why can't it work here for our advantage for once?
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I suppose. Even so, that would mean he is lying to an entire voting population just to get himself elected. Which, in my book, makes him no better than any of the other politicians. I want to like Rand Paul. I really do. But he is either the Tea Party nutjob he portrays himself to be, or he is lying to get himself elected. He has gotten himself into quite the situation there. Not looking too good for him either way.

What I will say: You don't change things through the existing paradigm, the paradigm has to be overthrown and stomped to bits. Ron Paul did that, and did that well. He ignited an entire political revolution. He didn't get elected, sure, but I don't think anyone can deny that his influence on the political field in 2008 and 2012 was phenomenal. That's because he didn't play by the rules. He told the truth, spoke his mind, and stayed consistent. Even his harshest critics acknowledged and respected that. Rand? Well he's content to use the system to get himself in the White House. That, in my book, makes him a sleazeball. A sleazeball that I am not voting for. I don't care if he's a Libertarian at heart or not. This country will not become more libertarian by perpetuating the same tactics that got it into this mess to begin with. Namely, crony politics.
 
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CanadaJohn said:
Paul was/is a marginal candidate for the Republican nomination.
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 His stance vis-a-vis police as stated here will do absolutely nothing to endear him to Republican primary voters. Therefore, in my view, his chances of securing the Republican nomination are now less than marginal. But he will get a lot of the liberal media's attention.
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I'm just going to guess that his chances are at least a little better than Texas governor Perry's chances right now.

However Perry's chances of ending up in jail have improved a lot lately.
 
RabidAlpaca said:
I loved his father, but he didn't have the sleezeball political appeal that gets presidents elected. I feel like Rand is Ron Paul light, with that missing dash of sleezeball political appeal. I truly hope he's just playing ball with the republican party so he can get a nomination and I have to believe that anyone raised by Ron Paul has to be light years better than the ****s we've been electing lately.

Politicians almost always do the exact opposite of what they run on. Why can't it work here for our advantage for once?
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Fortunately, every politician has in his political toolbox that trusty "political machine".

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shrubnose said:
I'm just going to guess that his chances are at least a little better than Texas governor Perry's chances right now.

However Perry's chances of ending up in jail have improved a lot lately.
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Refresh my memory, who's the leading Republican at this point?
 
Hamster Buddha said:
Refresh my memory, who's the leading Republican at this point?
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A rather moot question, almost as relevant as asking who is the best pitcher on Rockies. They ain't gonna win, so what difference does it make.
 
upsideguy said:
A rather moot question, almost as relevant as asking who is the best pitcher on Rockies. They ain't gonna win, so what difference does it make.
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Oh really? Know that for sure? Predict the future can you? Then what are we still doing here? You and I are going to Vegas to get rich.
 
shrubnose said:
Sen. Rand Paul said that police moves in Ferguson 'resemble war' and that anyone who thinks that race, even inadvertently, doesn't 'skew the application of criminal justice in this country is just not paying close enough attention'.

Read the article here: Has Rand Paul raised 2016 prospects with fiery Ferguson response? - CSMonitor.com


Well I'd like to hear others opinions, But Sen. Rand Paul has certainly got my attention with his spot-on comments.
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He is right.
 
RabidAlpaca said:
Aye, therein lies the rub. In order to actually get elected in this country he has to become more statist and more republican. This is precisely why our political system is so ****ed as a dual party system. We're trying to fit 300 million different types of people into 2 singular platforms.

Nevertheless, if he doesn't just go full-retard I might still vote for him. If not, I'll vote libertarian again and be sadly disappointed once more.
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I don't want to pull the "HAHA you make up 1% of America" card but if you want more parties than 2 then you need to have the adequate support.
 
shrubnose said:
I haven't seen any polls lately, but Chris Christie's name just popped into my head.

I like Christie, I don't like Jeb Bush, Paul Ryan, or Scott Walker.
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Christie isn't bad, from what I've seen and heard he's supposed to be one of the more moderate of the republicans, unlike moron palin or Bachmann.

If I had to get a republican president I think Christie would be the one.
 
shrubnose said:
I haven't seen any polls lately, but Chris Christie's name just popped into my head.

I like Christie, I don't like Jeb Bush, Paul Ryan, or Scott Walker.
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As previously predicted, Jeb Bush will be the next President of the United States, provided he decides to put his name forward.
 
I have no idea.


I was pretty big on Rand Paul a year ago or so.

But as he speaks more and more, his message seems more and more vague/compromised.

The bottom line is I think Rand Paul will compromise his positions to become POTUS (though granted, seemingly less then most major politicians).

I do not believe his father would have...which is one of the things I loved about him as a politician.

Compromising - especially on important issues - is for the weak, IMO.
 
CanadaJohn said:
As previously predicted, Jeb Bush will be the next President of the United States, provided he decides to put his name forward.
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As I have previously predicted the only way that Jeb Bush will ever see the inside of the White House is as a guest.

The USA has had enough Bushes in the White House.
 
shrubnose said:
As I have previously predicted the only way that Jeb Bush will ever see the inside of the White House is as a guest.

The USA has had enough Bushes in the White House.
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We'll see - at least I'm prepared to go on record, as I have for several years now, with a single prediction of who will win in 2016. In fact, I indicated in 2011 that I thought Jeb Bush could win in 2012 if he'd decided to put his name forward, but alas he chose not to. In my view, he is without a doubt the best qualified, most well rounded, and most even tempered of those considered. I'm hoping Americans actually look at those types of things this time around and not just choose the guy/gal with a nice smile who can carry a tune.
 
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shrubnose said:
Sen. Rand Paul said that police moves in Ferguson 'resemble war' and that anyone who thinks that race, even inadvertently, doesn't 'skew the application of criminal justice in this country is just not paying close enough attention'.

Read the article here: Has Rand Paul raised 2016 prospects with fiery Ferguson response? - CSMonitor.com




Well I'd like to hear others opinions, But Sen. Rand Paul has certainly got my attention with his spot-on comments.
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I don't think it will help him with the African American vote is he decides to run.
 
Carleen said:
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I don't think it will help him with the African American vote is he decides to run.
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I'm going to disagree, and say that while his comments might not get him a landslide of Black support he will pick up some votes.

In politics, it's all about the numbers.
 
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