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Christian Leader: ISIS is Beheading Children[W:131]

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cpwill said:
Sort of. There is an extent to which you can read the eschatology of Islam and Christianity as the same story told from two different sides. In Islam, the last Imam comes back, unifies the Umma, and leads them in taking over the world as a Powerful Leader of Peace Etc. So on and So Forth. In Christianity, in the last days, a guy will rise up and unify the world as a Powerful Leader of Peace Etc. so on and So Forth, and will then be overthrown by the return of Christ.
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OK, so my little prayer contest will still work. Whoever's guy comes back and brings unification and peace wins.


But, I'm not so sure I'd want to live in a unified Islamic theocracy anyway.
 
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Dittohead not! said:
OK, so my little prayer contest will still work. Whoever's guy comes back and brings unification and peace wins.
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Well.... no. The last man standing wins. :)

But, I'm not so sure I'd want to live in a unified Islamic theocracy anyway.
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probably not. One of the things I don't understand about the modern left is their willingness to functionally ally themselves with people who so blatantly reject all of their values.
 
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cpwill said:
Well.... no. The last man standing wins. :)



probably not. One of the things I don't understand about the modern left is their willingness to functionally ally themselves with people who so blatantly reject all of their values.
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OK, then, it looks like a war either way. I suppose having only one last man standing is the way to peace. It would seem that a Second Coming or a "peaceful" 12th. Imam could do better than just killing everyone off to bring about peace.

As for "liberals" how many actually do want to ally themselves with radical Islam? It would seem to me a totally opposite philosophy.
 
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Dittohead not! said:
As for "liberals" how many actually do want to ally themselves with radical Islam?
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All the ones who value opposing conservatism here at home more. Feel free to wander into any of the debates over Gaza, and see who is defending Hamas. By and large, it's not those on the Right. ISIL was called Iraq's "minutemen" by Michael Moore, not Rush Limbaugh.
 
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cpwill said:
All the ones who value opposing conservatism here at home more. Feel free to wander into any of the debates over Gaza, and see who is defending Hamas. By and large, it's not those on the Right. ISIL was called Iraq's "minutemen" by Michael Moore, not Rush Limbaugh.
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Michael Moore and Rush Limbaugh are a couple of idiots.

I wonder how many liberals actually ditto everything he says as opposed to the conservatives who ditto all of the nonsense that comes from Limbaugh?
 
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Condemning Israel's killing of civilians does not equal supporting Hamas.
 
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cpwill said:
All the ones who value opposing conservatism here at home more.
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Ah yes, the idiotic rhetoric of "If you don't follow us, you follow the enemy". did you ever think that liberals can reject YOUR ideology AND radical Islam ideology at the same time? Oh wait, that's a complex thought and maybe asking to much.

that's the problem with your thinking, liberals thinking and Islam's thinking. You can't stand that there are people that oppose you all.
 
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cpwill said:
All the ones who value opposing conservatism here at home more. Feel free to wander into any of the debates over Gaza, and see who is defending Hamas. By and large, it's not those on the Right. ISIL was called Iraq's "minutemen" by Michael Moore, not Rush Limbaugh.
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Again, you think just in black and white terms. Here's a thought. People can actually be against BOTH Israel's draconian actions as well as Hamas's terrorists actions AT THE SAME TIME. You have the mentality of either you are for Hamas or for Israel. Well hate to break it to you but BOTH can be wrong at the same time.
 
Sherman123 said:
Bruce Bartlett is a butthurt former Republican and current denizen of Salon.com who was never close to Bush or his cabinet. He has no special insight into the President and there remains no reason to believe that Bush conceived of our campaign as a 'Holy War'.
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Oh Gog Magog...you know nothing.


"....George W Bush attempted to sell the invasion of Iraq to Jacques Chirac using biblical prophecy.

In the winter of 2003, when George Bush and Tony Blair were frantically gathering support for their planned invasion, Professor Thomas Römer, an Old Testament expert at the university of Lausanne, was rung up by the Protestant Federation of France. They asked him to supply them with a summary of the legends surrounding Gog and Magog and as the conversation progressed, he realised that this had originally come, from the highest reaches of the French government.

President Jacques Chirac wanted to know what the hell President Bush had been on about in their last conversation. Bush had then said that when he looked at the Middle East, he saw "Gog and Magog at work" and the biblical prophecies unfolding. But who the hell were Gog and Magog? Neither Chirac nor his office had any idea. But they knew Bush was an evangelical Christian, so they asked the French Federation of Protestants, who in turn asked Professor Römer.

He explained that Gog and Magog were, to use theological jargon, crazy talk. They appear twice in the Old Testament, once as a name, and once in a truly strange prophecy in the book of Ezekiel:...."

Bush Gog and Magog | Andrew Brown | Comment is free | theguardian.com




lol Bush was a real hoot.
 
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TheNextEra said:
Again, you think just in black and white terms. Here's a thought. People can actually be against BOTH Israel's draconian actions as well as Hamas's terrorists actions AT THE SAME TIME. You have the mentality of either you are for Hamas or for Israel. Well hate to break it to you but BOTH can be wrong at the same time.
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:) I like how you ignore the second point because it so wrecks your response to the first.

Sadly, however, your description does not uniformly apply. Plenty of people choose to ally themselves with or defend Hamas.
 
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Montecresto said:
Condemning Israel's killing of civilians does not equal supporting Hamas.
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Actually it does.

Terrorists depend on people having self doubts, guilts and fears and couldn't survive without them. The Nazis and Communists perfected the game but groups like Hamas are still very effective. People want to live in peace and are willing to suspend reality in order to alleviate these natural anxieties. Appeasement is another way of putting it..
 
Luckily we elected someone "uniquely qualified" to RESTORE OUR STANDING IN THE WORLD.

Oh wait, we didn't. Bush was right. You don't get "radicalized" to cut people's head off because someone called you an "evil doer". You blame america first types will never learn.


Moot said:
Bush thought he was ordained by God to have a 'holy war' against 1.6 billion Muslims (23% of the world's population).....


''Just in the past few months,'' Bartlett said, ''I think a light has gone off for people who've spent time up close to Bush: that this instinct he's always talking about is this sort of weird, Messianic idea of what he thinks God has told him to do.'' Bartlett, a 53-year-old columnist and self-described libertarian Republican who has lately been a champion for traditional Republicans concerned about Bush's governance, went on to say: ''This is why George W. Bush is so clear-eyed about Al Qaeda and the Islamic fundamentalist enemy. He believes you have to kill them all. They can't be persuaded, that they're extremists, driven by a dark vision. He understands them, because he's just like them. . . . "
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/17/magazine/17BUSH.html?_r=0


Muslims all over the world became a lot more radicalized after Bush's holey war against "evil doers" than they were before. But then, so did a lot of Americans.
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TobyOne said:
Luckily we elected someone "uniquely qualified" to RESTORE OUR STANDING IN THE WORLD.

Oh wait, we didn't. Bush was right. You don't get "radicalized" to cut people's head off because someone called you an "evil doer". You blame america first types will never learn.
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Like most people, I usually blame conservatives first when it comes to ideological and/or religious radicalization. Perhaps GWBush was right....you extremist types will never learn, either.
 
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Grant said:
Actually it does.

Terrorists depend on people having self doubts, guilts and fears and couldn't survive without them. The Nazis and Communists perfected the game but groups like Hamas are still very effective. People want to live in peace and are willing to suspend reality in order to alleviate these natural anxieties. Appeasement is another way of putting it..
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Wrong still Grant. The US is the only country that has a favorible opinion of Israel, and the rest of the world does not support Hamas. That's just stupid what you said,.
 
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Grant said:
Actually it does.

Terrorists depend on people having self doubts, guilts and fears and couldn't survive without them. The Nazis and Communists perfected the game but groups like Hamas are still very effective. People want to live in peace and are willing to suspend reality in order to alleviate these natural anxieties. Appeasement is another way of putting it..
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With him, it goes beyond appeasement. He actually thanked a post that said murdering Jews should be made legal.
 
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cpwill;1063641468. said:
Plenty of people choose to ally themselves with or defend Hamas.
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The number of Hamas supporters here must run into the dozens.
 
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Montecresto said:
Wrong still Grant. The US is the only country that has a favorible opinion of Israel, and the rest of the world does not support Hamas. That's just stupid what you said,.
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Of course I never mentioned 'the rest of the world' and the US is not the only country which supports Israel. I know Canada certainly does.

If you quoted me incorrectly it does not follow that it is me who said something 'stupid'.
 
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Grant said:
Actually it does.

Terrorists depend on people having self doubts, guilts and fears and couldn't survive without them. The Nazis and Communists perfected the game but groups like Hamas are still very effective. People want to live in peace and are willing to suspend reality in order to alleviate these natural anxieties. Appeasement is another way of putting it..
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Spot on in your assessment.
 
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Grant said:
Of course I never mentioned 'the rest of the world' and the US is not the only country which supports Israel. I know Canada certainly does.

If you quoted me incorrectly it does not follow that it is me who said something 'stupid'.
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It's good company Israel has!

The most negatively rated countries were, as in previous years, Iran (55% negative), Pakistan (51% negative), and Israel and North Korea (both 50% negative).

America Is the Only Country with a Favorable View of Israel

Posted on July 25, 2014 by WashingtonsBlog
The U.S. Is the Only Country Which Supports Israel No Matter What It Does
US Stands Alone in Vote Against United Nations Inquiry Into Gaza Assault
Americans – living in a huge country which has never really been invaded, and as the sole superpower – are famous for being

http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/2013 Country Rating Poll.pdf
 
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Montecresto said:
It's good company Israel has!

The most negatively rated countries were, as in previous years, Iran (55% negative), Pakistan (51% negative), and Israel and North Korea (both 50% negative).

America Is the Only Country with a Favorable View of Israel

Posted on July 25, 2014 by WashingtonsBlog
The U.S. Is the Only Country Which Supports Israel No Matter What It Does
US Stands Alone in Vote Against United Nations Inquiry Into Gaza Assault
Americans – living in a huge country which has never really been invaded, and as the sole superpower – are famous for being

http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/2013 Country Rating Poll.pdf
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Canada just got 51%? Well, I am proud that our PM supports Israel and not terrorists.

Just an aside but that poll was crap. Never trust the BBC.
 
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Grant said:
Canada just got 51%? Well, I am proud that our PM supports Israel and not terrorists.

Just an aside but that poll was crap. Never trust the BBC.
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Tell me, what news agency do you "trust", lol.
 
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DVSentinel said:
What is IC?

Apparently then, you need to acquire new skills that there is a market for.

You still have opportunity. Tell us what opportunities those children being behead for their religion (actually their parents most likely) have? Are you seriously telling us that your economic problems are anywhere near on par with children being beheaded?
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Independent Contractor.

Say, what is the "skill set" for the guy that does nothing, and makes $200 million a year leeching off others?
 
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US Conservative said:
No. Instead of expecting others to make laws for YOU to succeed, perhaps you should just go out and do it. Its the 90's-you can do it.

Heres the secret-learn the skills that others will be willing to pay you for. Sounds like your prior job didn't meet that criteria.
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Ok so I learn them. Problem is the CHinaman learned them too. Guess what? US CITIZEN still LOSES................

And how long are those "skills" good for? 6 months of a product cycle? What do we do for the other 29 years and 6 months untill we all retire?
 
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