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Christian Leader: ISIS is Beheading Children[W:131]

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Wait, you think a govt paycheck is going to make people take risks? NOT simply vote for their dinner? It creates an incentive (money) AGAINST making your own. This is basic economics-and why the war on poverty has been such a spectacular failure.

See what I mean about belittling a group of people? Idea that people would rather be on the dole than working a good job is purely propaganda.

The overall poverty rate fell by almost 40% from 1967 to 2012. The poverty rate for children fell by a similar amount, for those of working-age the rate fell by 23% and for the elderly a remarkable 78%.Whatever one thinks about the desirability of a "war on poverty" or the way that it has been implemented ideologically or politically, we should all be able to agree that the incidence of poverty -- as measured by the SPM -- has dropped dramatically since the 1960s. A major explanation for the drop is government programs focused on the poor, as documented by Wimer et al..

Even though there remains considerable inequality and outright poverty (still 16% in 2012), as well as important debates on what "poverty" actually means, we can also look at the numbers and conclude that the "war on poverty" has been a success.
Roger Pielke Jr.'s Blog: Was the "War on Poverty" a Success? Yes.

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See what I mean about belittling a group of people? Idea that people would rather be on the dole than working a good job is purely propaganda.

Its not about what people would rather do-its about what actions they take. This isn't an emotion based argument.
 
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Its not about what people would rather do-its about what actions they take. This isn't an emotion based argument.

It is not an argument alright, it is a lie.
 
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See what I mean about belittling a group of people? Idea that people would rather be on the dole than working a good job is purely propaganda.

Roger Pielke Jr.'s Blog: Was the "War on Poverty" a Success? Yes.

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Nice little chart-whats the vertical axis from your blog pic supposed to be?

Pssst-now note that poverty was falling much faster BEFORE the war on poverty, its odd the chart fails to show that.


Start on page 21. http://irp.wisc.edu/publications/dps/pdfs/dp116698.pdf

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Juvenilization of poverty - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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"As shown in the chart, Census Bureau data reveal that the poverty rate was steadily falling in the 1950s and early 1960s, but then stagnated once the War on Poverty began. It’s possible that there are alternative and/or additional explanations for this shocking development, but government intervention may be encouraging poverty by making indolence more attractive than work." Does the War on Poverty Fight Destitution or Subsidize It? | International Liberty


EDIT-we are getting too far into the weeds, lets discuss this elsewhere.
 
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There you have it, as I said, you don't judge an entire group from the minority bad players. Though its been attempted here.

Yes, I have it but it seems you don't. The 'moderate' Muslims are irrelevant because they have made themselves irrelevant. They are not worth mentioning, just as those non-Nazi Germans, or Non-Communist Russians, don't matter either. We don't bother mentioning that not all Germans were Nazis or not all Russians were Communist, nor should there be any reason to say that not all Muslims are terrorists. We know that anyway, as the link said.
 
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See what I mean about belittling a group of people? Idea that people would rather be on the dole than working a good job is purely propaganda.
It's not a matter of rather being on the dole it's the habit of being on the dole and the difficulty in breaking that habit. Many on the dole will rationalize that it doesn't pay for them to work, and they are right.

When Bill Clinton made collecting welfare more difficult in the 1990's it was met with great success. That was reversed in 2012. Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
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Yes, I have it but it seems you don't. The 'moderate' Muslims are irrelevant because they have made themselves irrelevant. They are not worth mentioning, just as those non-Nazi Germans, or Non-Communist Russians, don't matter either. We don't bother mentioning that not all Germans were Nazis or not all Russians were Communist, nor should there be any reason to say that not all Muslims are terrorists. We know that anyway, as the link said.

I am not sure I can totally agree with the homily that the members of a social or sociopolitical group are not responsible for the actions of the group. It can't be that it my group, when all is splendid but them, when it is nasty.
 
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I am not sure I can totally agree with the homily that the members of a social or sociopolitical group are not responsible for the actions of the group. It can't be that it my group, when all is splendid but them, when it is nasty.

"Moderate' Muslims can be as intimidated by the radicals just as much of the western media is, and the politically correct. No doubt 'moderate' Germans were intimidated by the Nazis and 'moderate ' Russians intimidated by the Communists. As we have seen throughout the Middle East and elsewhere, 'moderate Muslims are being murdered more frequently than anyone else, at least until the war on Christians began in earnest..
 
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Sounds like you chose your career path poorly. You going to stay mad and continue to take money from others (your precious healthcare subsidy you brag about as if its cool) or go another way and earn what you are worth?

then make all jobs in USA apprenticeships. All your "schools" are a fraud, as are most of your permatemp "jobs".

Like the Polaris factory I read about today. They make Vistory and Indian bikes.

No AC in the factory in IA. WOW talk about bad working conditions...............

All jobs are permatemp jobs. Via the (empty shell corp so no workers comp or lawsuits of any kind) temp agency. Get hurt, they throw you away.
Complain about getting shorted pay, thrown away.......1870 all over again. HEY why not bring back CHILD LABOR! I mean if your going to
have slavery again, go for the GUSTO!!! LMAO Those worthless (as you say) children of the poor dont need "education" or to learn to read anyway right?
 
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Last offer for my skills, degree and 10 years min of experience was $12hr as a IC?

Why get your "skills" when it pays LESS THAN MIN wage?

The rest is just a poster for revolution.

What is IC?

Apparently then, you need to acquire new skills that there is a market for.

You still have opportunity. Tell us what opportunities those children being behead for their religion (actually their parents most likely) have? Are you seriously telling us that your economic problems are anywhere near on par with children being beheaded?
 
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then make all jobs in USA apprenticeships. All your "schools" are a fraud, as are most of your permatemp "jobs".

Like the Polaris factory I read about today. They make Vistory and Indian bikes.

No AC in the factory in IA. WOW talk about bad working conditions...............

All jobs are permatemp jobs. Via the (empty shell corp so no workers comp or lawsuits of any kind) temp agency. Get hurt, they throw you away.
Complain about getting shorted pay, thrown away.......1870 all over again. HEY why not bring back CHILD LABOR! I mean if your going to
have slavery again, go for the GUSTO!!! LMAO Those worthless (as you say) children of the poor dont need "education" or to learn to read anyway right?

Is your degree in education?
 
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Wow! The United States just gets eviler and eviler!
America has always been evil, or didn't you know that?
 
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then make all jobs in USA apprenticeships. All your "schools" are a fraud, as are most of your permatemp "jobs".

Like the Polaris factory I read about today. They make Vistory and Indian bikes.

No AC in the factory in IA. WOW talk about bad working conditions...............

All jobs are permatemp jobs. Via the (empty shell corp so no workers comp or lawsuits of any kind) temp agency. Get hurt, they throw you away.
Complain about getting shorted pay, thrown away.......1870 all over again. HEY why not bring back CHILD LABOR! I mean if your going to
have slavery again, go for the GUSTO!!! LMAO Those worthless (as you say) children of the poor dont need "education" or to learn to read anyway right?

No. Instead of expecting others to make laws for YOU to succeed, perhaps you should just go out and do it. Its the 90's-you can do it.

Heres the secret-learn the skills that others will be willing to pay you for. Sounds like your prior job didn't meet that criteria.
 
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Possibly. I do know America had been meddling in other countries affairs for as long as I can recall, trying to shove their points of view into every foreign government they've become entangled with. America install new leaders after toppling old ones, and they're actually no better than the ones they took out.

Not always the case.

When someone says cross cultural differences, I see Afghan men selling or trading their female children and wives for herds of animals, this still occurs to this very day. America should step back away and avoid involvement in third world nations, we are supposed to be more civilized that those, but, America probably is a world leader when it comes to terrorism. So in reality, America is probably no better than those dismembering people.

How is US foreign policy equal to war criminals that dismember their victims?
 
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Not always the case.



How is US foreign policy equal to war criminals that dismember their victims?
No, when the USA doesn't like some leader of another country, they employ dissidents and off the wall militias to do the dirty work, like America did in Iran, Iraq and Afghanistan, and before that over and over.

Dropping bombs and killing innocents is just about as bad as beheading a person, except it's more antiseptic, we don't see the images of innocent people's bodies in pieces.
 
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Given that not all followers of Islam are the problem, maybe you should avoid grand generalizations of the religion…

Ah, the speech police have arrived and will be working hard to…ah…uh…not really sure what they’re up to but we can all rest assured that will be doing it to their sanctimonious, self-righteous satisfaction.

…and focus on the radicals that are the problem.

They’re not radicals. They are fundamentalists.

Since we obviously have Muslims that aren't terrorists it isn't the religion that is the problem but the radicals that twist and abuse that religion.

Since most of the conflicts that exist in the world today involve muslims, I dare say that the problem is self-evident.
 
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Kindly show where Christians are systematically killing children based on their religion today. Its always muslims, deal with it.

Africa.
 
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Ah, the speech police have arrived and will be working hard to…ah…uh…not really sure what they’re up to but we can all rest assured that will be doing it to their sanctimonious, self-righteous satisfaction.



They’re not radicals. They are fundamentalists.



Since most of the conflicts that exist in the world today involve muslims, I dare say that the problem is self-evident.

Ah yes, pointing out the blanket generalization of all Muslims = "speech police."

The persecution complex is laughable.
 
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Ah yes, pointing out the blanket generalization of all Muslims = "speech police."

The persecution complex is laughable.

Speech police is correct. A few isolated cases vs a global epidemic of violence by islamists. He was right-most of the major conflicts involve Islam. That is an ACCURATE generalization...even if you dont like it.
 
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Yes, that whole "take care of your family, stay married, and go to work everyday" mantra is so childish.

Conservatives must feel that way, or else they wouldn't enjoy bombing so many families w/kids. . .

"Moreover, according to the London-based rights organization, Reprieve, which with the help of a partner organization in Pakistan facilitated access to some of the people interviewed for the Stanford/NYU study, the psychological damage to the surviving family members is extensive."

Obama's Drones Have Killed at Least 176 Children in Pakistan Alone

We should just smoke weed, take a bath once a week, and impregnate anything that moves

Last I heard, conservatives have no problem impregnating anything because they believe it just "shuts down" during the impregnation process.
 
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"Moderate' Muslims can be as intimidated by the radicals just as much of the western media is, and the politically correct. No doubt 'moderate' Germans were intimidated by the Nazis and 'moderate ' Russians intimidated by the Communists. As we have seen throughout the Middle East and elsewhere, 'moderate Muslims are being murdered more frequently than anyone else, at least until the war on Christians began in earnest..

The fact that they are intimidated does not mean they are not responsible for the actions of their group.
 
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Not always the case.



How is US foreign policy equal to war criminals that dismember their victims?

Dead is dead. And the US has firebombed cities full of civilians, nuked cities full of civilians, supported dictatorships and authoritarian regimes, when it was beneficial, all over the world. There's a lot of history on this.
 
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Dead is dead. And the US has firebombed cities full of civilians, nuked cities full of civilians, supported dictatorships and authoritarian regimes, when it was beneficial, all over the world. There's a lot of history on this.

Glad we were the exception to this!
 
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