Christian Leader: ISIS is Beheading Children[W:131]

DVSentinel · Aug 10, 2014

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274ina said:
Obamacare does not work? Funny my $40 month HC is great! after a LIFETIME of no HC! And millions are also getting HC now.

Yes they were ATTACKED. Did ISIS ATTACK USA?

Well guess what, Healthcare is a legitimate function of government.................

Yes all those things are USA worker first trade. Not screw USA trade every damb day like we have now.

Obamacare working for you does not prove it works. The fact that you rely upon on it proves that you are part of the parasite "entitlement" crowd that is too lazy and stupid to earn it for themselves and that society should finally learn that it is a total and complete waste of valuable resources to keep supporting leaching parasites.

US Conservative · Aug 10, 2014

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Misterveritis said:
But we could arm the opposition. We could provide special operators to train and support the people. We can provide communications, logistics and intelligence support. We can give them body bags for their beheaded children and the hanged fathers.

We are not fighting in this world war. I wonder why we are not? I wonder why the entire West, Europe and Great Britain, do not see the inevitable danger when fascism, in this case Islamofascism, on on the rise.

I know there is a great deal of communist/socialist/Progressive influence in the White House. Is our president also an Islamofascist (supporter)?

The west wont fight until it has no other choice-thats the nature of the west. We have 2 fundamentally different and incompatible ideologies here-The wests judeo-Christian ethic vs Islamism. This is the real conflict-islamism is merely the symptom.

Somewhere, liberals are sprinting to their computers to tell me Islamists are a minority-historically the radical minority has driven the agenda-see Nazi Germany, Soviet Russia, etc-and the majority is irrelevant. The scale of scope of islamism as a cancer to the world has demonstrated this.

They wont moderate because that would betray who they are. They wont relent because they believe the world is allahs, and belongs to muslims. Its acceptable to lie to infidels when expanding Islam-for the most recent example take the Gaza "cease fires" used to attack Israelis. These are facts.

US Conservative · Aug 10, 2014

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Grant said:
The title should read "What Obama Left Behind".

That would be the most accurate descriptor.

US Conservative · Aug 10, 2014

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Grant said:
Erring on the side of caution is in the same area code as erring on the side of denial.

The free world heard rumors of the holocaust but little was done. Here is another genocide, THIS TIME ON CAMERA, and we have forum lefties OUT OF NOWHERE, implying the photos may be planted. :doh

iguanaman · Aug 10, 2014

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Misterveritis said:
But we could arm the opposition. We could provide special operators to train and support the people. We can provide communications, logistics and intelligence support. We can give them body bags for their beheaded children and the hanged fathers.

We are not fighting in this world war. I wonder why we are not? I wonder why the entire West, Europe and Great Britain, do not see the inevitable danger when fascism, in this case Islamofascism, on on the rise.

I know there is a great deal of communist/socialist/Progressive influence in the White House. Is our president also an Islamofascist (supporter)?

We spent billions training and arming "the opposition" for 10 years and they turned that training on their own people and now they are reaping the results as we are for our mistakes. ISIS is a direct result of our invasion of Iraq. Why do you think we won't continue to make things worse if we insist on maintaining the falsehood that we "won" that war? Is "bring it on" actually still your best plan for our place in the world? How's that working out?

Grant · Aug 10, 2014

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US Conservative said:
The west wont fight until it has no other choice-thats the nature of the west. We have 2 fundamentally different and incompatible ideologies here-The wests judeo-Christian ethic vs Islamism. This is the real conflict-islamism is merely the symptom.

Somewhere, liberals are sprinting to their computers to tell me Islamists are a minority-historically the radical minority has driven the agenda-see Nazi Germany, Soviet Russia, etc-and the majority is irrelevant. The scale of scope of islamism as a cancer to the world has demonstrated this.

They wont moderate because that would betray who they are. They wont relent because they believe the world is allahs, and belongs to muslims. Its acceptable to lie to infidels when expanding Islam-for the most recent example take the Gaza "cease fires" used to attack Israelis. These are facts.

Many in the West may now begin to realize what the Jews have been going through all these centuries. If radical Islam is allowed control of the entire Middle East they will be a long way in achieving their goal.

iguanaman · Aug 10, 2014

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US Conservative said:
That would be the most accurate descriptor.

I guess that is fair if you believe that Obama is the 1st real President of the U.S. and that all the others were just placeholders. Is that what you are saying?

In the real world we have a former President that made the agreement that instigated our withdrawal from Iraq. You should read the National Review sometimes or is that too leftist for you?

Still, it was not Obama who agreed to the withdrawal schedule. It was President Bush. And it was not Obama who turned Iraq into an Islamic-supremacist state seething with anti-American and anti-Semitic hatred. Long before Obama came to power, Iraq was an Islamist country, rife with Sunni and Shiite militants who agreed on little else besides their devotion to sharia and their abhorrence of the West.

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/380398/dont-blame-iraq-obama-alone-andrew-c-mccarthy

US Conservative · Aug 10, 2014

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iguanaman said:
I guess that is fair if you believe that Obama is the 1st real President of the U.S. and that all the others were just placeholders. Is that what you are saying?

In the real world we have a former President that made the agreement that instigated our withdrawal from Iraq. You should read the National Review sometimes or is that too leftist for you?

Don

Obama has been commander in chief for 6 years, bud. If HE thought it wasn't going to work, why on earth would he continue that policy-to lead us to THIS situation-Islamists expanding all over Asia and Africa and with organized killing of Children?

In the presidential debates Obama said he pulled out because he didn't want to be bogged down in Iraq-NOT because he was following Bush. If it was such a good idea, WHY IS HE NOW GOING BACK?

This is why your silly defense does not work.

Misterveritis · Aug 10, 2014

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iguanaman said:
We spent billions training and arming "the opposition" for 10 years and they turned that training on their own people and now they are reaping the results as we are for our mistakes. ISIS is a direct result of our invasion of Iraq. Why do you think we won't continue to make things worse if we insist on maintaining the falsehood that we "won" that war? Is "bring it on" actually still your best plan for our place in the world? How's that working out?

Don't be silly. ISIS is the face of Islamofascism. Granted, Islamofascism has its supporters in the White House. I get that.

Can you explain how arming and supporting the people who are being rounded up and murdered is in any way making the case that we won the war? The fact that we won the war is not relevant to the fact that the Islamofascist in the White House gave back the victory. And now innocent people are being murdered. And you, not surprisingly, want to avert your eyes as the beheadings go on. I expected that based on your liberal lean.

I believe you have a certain "knee-jerk" response to any messages that says innocent victims deserve a hand in helping themselves.

iguanaman · Aug 10, 2014

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US Conservative said:
Obama has been commander in chief for 6 years, bud. If HE thought it wasn't going to work, why on earth would he continue that policy-to lead us to THIS situation-Islamists expanding all over Asia and Africa and with organized killing of Children?

In the presidential debates Obama said he pulled out because he didn't want to be bogged down in Iraq-NOT because he was following Bush. If it was such a good idea, WHY IS HE NOW GOING BACK?

This is why your silly defense does not work.

He is not going back. He is providing humanitarian aid and defending American interests in Iraq. He tried it Bush's way and surprise...it failed. Picking up the pieces has been a full time job for the President. He predecessor was THAT bad.
Perhaps now that Malaki is gone, there is a chance for a coalition Govt. that will unite against ISIS. That would not have happened if we continued our "mission" in Iraq as you want. We were just using our blood and treasure to put off the inevitable. Is that how much you value our soldiers?

iguanaman · Aug 10, 2014

Re: ISIS Beheading and Crucifying Christians in Iraq

US Conservative said:
The west wont fight until it has no other choice-thats the nature of the west. We have 2 fundamentally different and incompatible ideologies here-The wests judeo-Christian ethic vs Islamism. This is the real conflict-islamism is merely the symptom.

Somewhere, liberals are sprinting to their computers to tell me Islamists are a minority-historically the radical minority has driven the agenda-see Nazi Germany, Soviet Russia, etc-and the majority is irrelevant. The scale of scope of islamism as a cancer to the world has demonstrated this.

They wont moderate because that would betray who they are. They wont relent because they believe the world is allahs, and belongs to muslims. Its acceptable to lie to infidels when expanding Islam-for the most recent example take the Gaza "cease fires" used to attack Israelis. These are facts.

That whole area has nothing but Muslims are you suggesting we kill 'em all? It sure sounds like it. Maybe we should build some ovens to take care of the bodies, I believe the Germans still have the plans for some BIG ones.

Grant · Aug 10, 2014

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iguanaman said:
He is not going back. He is providing humanitarian aid and defending American interests in Iraq.

No bombs, just aid?

He tried it Bush's way and surprise...it failed.

What did he try Bush's way?

Picking up the pieces has been a full time job for the President. He predecessor was THAT bad.

What pieces has he picked up? The situation is worse than ever!

Perhaps now that Malaki is gone, there is a chance for a coalition Govt. that will unite against ISIS. That would not have happened if we continued our "mission" in Iraq as you want. We were just using our blood and treasure to put off the inevitable. Is that how much you value our soldiers?

It was Barrack Obama who pulled out of Iraq, just as he promised he would during his election campaign. He said that Iraq was now 'stable' and Biden said Iraq was their greatest success. He abandoned what progress the American military had made, the lives they lost, the money they spent, all to make himself look good in front of the know-nothing leftists.

Grant · Aug 10, 2014

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iguanaman said:
That whole area has nothing but Muslims are you suggesting we kill 'em all? It sure sounds like it. Maybe we should build some ovens to take care of the bodies, I believe the Germans still have the plans for some BIG ones.

Maybe instead of guessing at what facts "sounds like", which is a confusion endemic among leftists, why not look at what's actually been said. Any sensible person could read the post and understand that it never hinted that all Muslims should be killed. Can you see now why it's so difficult to communicate with Leftists?

US Conservative · Aug 10, 2014

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iguanaman said:
He is not going back. He is providing humanitarian aid and defending American interests in Iraq. He tried it Bush's way and surprise...it failed. Picking up the pieces has been a full time job for the President. He predecessor was THAT bad.
Perhaps now that Malaki is gone, there is a chance for a coalition Govt. that will unite against ISIS. That would not have happened if we continued our "mission" in Iraq as you want. We were just using our blood and treasure to put off the inevitable. Is that how much you value our soldiers?

We are going back, and nobody is buying your excuses for Obama.

US Conservative · Aug 10, 2014

Re: ISIS Beheading and Crucifying Christians in Iraq

iguanaman said:
That whole area has nothing but Muslims are you suggesting we kill 'em all? It sure sounds like it. Maybe we should build some ovens to take care of the bodies, I believe the Germans still have the plans for some BIG ones.

No turbo, in fact THE PREMISE OF THIS THREAD IS THAT CHRISTIANS AND OTHER MINORITIES ARE BEING MASSACRED.
Its not "nothing but muslims", perhaps some time reading might be elucidating for you.

Kobie · Aug 10, 2014

1. Obviously, Christians being slaughtered by Islamist wack-jobs is a serious problem that deserves a serious response. We managed to stop ethnic cleansing once via airstrikes -- I'm hoping that's all it takes to do it again, but I'm not optimistic.

2. I see the usual suspects are lining up en masse to completely absolve the Bush Administration, which began the series of events that has led to this terrible situation in Iraq, of any and all culpability for their role in it.

You can't sit here and chide liberals for "wanting to return to the days of Saddam," spouting off all the bad **** he did, and then in the same breath complain that things are worse than they ever were under Saddam and it's all Obama's fault. You can't have it both ways.

The Bush Administration executed the Iraq War in the most inept fashion possible, creating a massive power vacuum that was begging for an ISIS-type organization to fill it. These are facts, no matter how much you want to whine about "Bush blaming."

US Conservative · Aug 10, 2014

Kobie said:
1. Obviously, Christians being slaughtered by Islamist wack-jobs is a serious problem that deserves a serious response. We managed to stop ethnic cleansing once via airstrikes -- I'm hoping that's all it takes to do it again, but I'm not optimistic.

2. I see the usual suspects are lining up en masse to completely absolve the Bush Administration, which began the series of events that has led to this terrible situation in Iraq, of any and all culpability for their role in it.

You can't sit here and chide liberals for "wanting to return to the days of Saddam," spouting off all the bad **** he did, and then in the same breath complain that things are worse than they ever were under Saddam and it's all Obama's fault. You can't have it both ways.

The Bush Administration executed the Iraq War in the most inept fashion possible, creating a massive power vacuum that was begging for an ISIS-type organization to fill it. These are facts, no matter how much you want to whine about "Bush blaming."

Bush left Iraq in relative peace-Obama left the power vacuum-one quickly filled by terrorists (Iran AND Isis).

Obama lied, innocents died. The religious genocide continues, perhaps you should support going back in.

Kobie · Aug 10, 2014

US Conservative said:
Bush left Iraq in relative peace-Obama left the power vacuum-one quickly filled by terrorists (Iran AND Isis).

Obama lied, innocents died.

Iraq was never in "relative peace." Whatever tenuous control was held over the country was bound to disappear unless the Iraqis could be counted on to police themselves. This didn't happen, because most Iraqis don't care about Iraq. They care about Sunnis, Shi'ites and Kurds.

Your rabid hyperpartisanship blinds you to anything other than "everything bad is 100% Obama's fault."

US Conservative · Aug 10, 2014

kobie said:
iraq was never in "relative peace." whatever tenuous control was held over the country was bound to disappear unless the iraqis could be counted on to police themselves. This didn't happen, because most iraqis don't care about iraq. They care about sunnis, shi'ites and kurds.

Your rabid hyperpartisanship blinds you to anything other than "everything bad is 100% obama's fault."

should we go back in?

Kobie · Aug 10, 2014

US Conservative said:
should we go back in?

I gave my opinion on that earlier.

US Conservative · Aug 10, 2014

Kobie said:
I gave my opinion on that earlier.

Post/thread?

Kobie · Aug 10, 2014

US Conservative said:
Post/thread?

The same post you responded to with your "Obama lied, innocents died" crap.

Misterveritis · Aug 10, 2014

Kobie said:
The same post you responded to with your "Obama lied, innocents died" crap.

Wait! Obama didn't lie and those beheadings, hangings, rapes and throat cuttings are all made up?

Whew! Thank goodness. When I watched all of those men having their heads blown off as they lay in a ditch with their hands tied behind their backs I thought it was real.

Kobie · Aug 10, 2014

Misterveritis said:
Wait! Obama didn't lie and those beheadings, hangings, rapes and throat cuttings are all made up?

Whew! Thank goodness. When I watched all of those men having their heads blown off as they lay in a ditch with their hands tied behind their backs I thought it was real.

You want to link to where Obama claimed that ISIS wasn't doing bad stuff in Iraq?

Misterveritis · Aug 10, 2014

Kobie said:
You want to link to where Obama claimed that ISIS wasn't doing bad stuff in Iraq?

It is more fundamental and you know it. The president claimed month after month that Al Qaeda was on the run. It was no longer effective. And Iraq was stable. He has know for at least a half year that ISIS was growing in strength and power. But he needs his fundraising trips taken at our expense. He needs his campaigning all over the country every week. And he needs his endless rounds of golf and vacations where the rich white people live.

So children having their heads sawn off will just have to wait.