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80-Year-Old Extremely Pleased About Killing Pregnant Woman Fleeing Botched [W:700]

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Read about this earlier and I'm pretty sure this guy is going to pay a hefty price.

The guy shot the chick as she and her boyfriend were running away....outside the house....down the alley.

Deadly force is fine when an imminent threat of death or grave bodily harm exists. That sure doesn't seem to be the case here.
 
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Is there any state you can legally kill someone to protect your property. Someone was trying to tell me that at some point.
Read about this earlier and I'm pretty sure this guy is going to pay a hefty price.

The guy shot the chick as she and her boyfriend were running away....outside the house....down the alley.

Deadly force is fine when an imminent threat of death or grave bodily harm exists. That sure doesn't seem to be the case here.
 
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Is there any state you can legally kill someone to protect your property. Someone was trying to tell me that at some point.
Yea Baby, Florida. Come to steal my junk, I pop a cap in yo azz post haste.
 
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Do you think that is a good law? Would you shoot someone running away from you with some of your say moderately valuable stuff?
Yea Baby, Florida. Come to steal my junk, I pop a cap in yo azz post haste.
 
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Do you think that is a good law? Would you shoot someone running away from you with some of your say moderately valuable stuff?

Depends. Value is also subjective. What may seem like garbage to you, may mean the world to me. Say my fathers wallet. I still have it, just like it was the day he died. Or his badge. Worthless to you. I would rip someones heart out with my bare hands if they tried taking it.
 
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OK, just asking. I probably wouldnt but I could make the argument if they were stealing firearms or something I need to live.
Depends. Value is also subjective. What may seem like garbage to you, may mean the world to me. Say my fathers wallet. I still have it, just like it was the day he died. Or his badge. Worthless to you. I would rip someones heart out with my bare hands if they tried taking it.
 
Re: 80-Year-Old Extremely Pleased About Killing Pregnant Woman Fleeing Botched Robber

Read about this earlier and I'm pretty sure this guy is going to pay a hefty price.

The guy shot the chick as she and her boyfriend were running away....outside the house....down the alley.

Deadly force is fine when an imminent threat of death or grave bodily harm exists. That sure doesn't seem to be the case here.

He's 80 years old, doubt he really cares all that much.
 
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OK, just asking. I probably wouldnt but I could make the argument if they were stealing firearms or something I need to live.

I have no sympathy for thieves. I don't have much, but its mine and I busted my ass for it. I don't attach myself to many "property" type things. But the few I make sure I have held onto, mean a lot to me.
Now, I am not going to start spitting lead around the neighborhood over say a car battery or a socket wrench. But some people would.
 
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Texas, too.


And yeah, I'd 100% shoot someone stealing my stuff. Don't want to get shot?


Don't steal my ****.


Just a suggestion.
 
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The shooter is apparently black (well, at least he was speaking in idiomatic english assosciated with blacks).

She was dead. I shot her twice, she best be dead … (The man) had run off and left her.”

As such, I doubt this case of armed idiocy goes any where on CNN and I doubt Obama references it in speeches. For them, the only armed idiots worth reporting on are the white ones- or in the case of Zimmerman, somebody who is a uhmm.... "white hispanic".
 
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Do you think that is a good law? Would you shoot someone running away from you with some of your say moderately valuable stuff?

It is morally permissible to defend your life, your liberty, and your property against aggression. A robber is an aggressor. If you have the means to stop them from harming you, there is nothing wrong with employing said means.

You can defend your property in my state. You should be allowed to wherever you live.

It is an awful shame that an innocent kid was killed, however.
 
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Cold-hearted old man.
 
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He's 80 years old, doubt he really cares all that much.

Which makes this act -- including killing an innocent child -- revolting.
 
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It is an awful shame that an innocent kid was killed, however.

That would make it automatically murder, no? He did know she was pregnant. He still made the decision to kill her child.
 
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That would make it automatically murder, no? He did know she was pregnant. He still made the decision to kill her child.

While most could agree that this is tragic, it does seem that the mother can share in the responsibility for a child's death due to placing that child in such a high risk situation; had she not made the choice to rob and pummel an old man both mother and child would be still alive. This is not an excuse for what will likely be determined a bad shoot ( based upon published info ) but there is much blame to be shared by the mother and her compatriot.

Find a reason to smile today

Thom Paine
 
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I'm glad he killed her too. Those two criminals didn't hesitate to attack an old man and then they were so arrogant as to continue robbing him after they attacked him. I only wish he killed the man too.
Somebody oughta put a few "freedom bullets" into that website.
 
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That would make it automatically murder, no? He did know she was pregnant. He still made the decision to kill her child.

She was a home invader, he was physically attacked.

It doesn't matter what they say at that point, you're long since justified in shooting their ass dead. They could say anything, their actions deem them to be an aggressive threat with no respect for your rights. Unless you somehow have the time and luxury of a Kill Bill esque stand-off where you do a pregnancy test at gunpoint...

It is awful that the kid was killed because of the repugnant actions of his or her mother, but the hypocrisy of some California DA going after him with criminal charges for that death would be off the charts.
 
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Old man is pretty ****ed. He did it out of vengeance according to his own words. The woman had time to beg and alert him that she was pregnant. Than she was shot multiple times in the back. I think id seek death sentence for him or give him the option to somehow chop his own hands off on his own accord to bypass punishment. He clearly cant be trusted with his own hands. Sure he was heated and it was in the moment (almost... i mean she had time to conversate and plea.) Guess he should have shot her in the leg instead of thinking the girl so despicable as not human.
 
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80-Year-Old Extremely Pleased About Killing Pregnant Woman Fleeing Botched Robbery (Video) | Americans Against the Tea Party

I'm glad he killed her too. Those two criminals didn't hesitate to attack an old man and then they were so arrogant as to continue robbing him after they attacked him. I only wish he killed the man too.

The responses on this thread are the reason people think way too many gun owners are NUTZ. Anyone not finding this reprehensible is a jackass. If the facts are as presented, that she was running away and was shot in the back, this complete asshole belongs in the slammer. Shame on anyone who believes otherwise.
 
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The shooter is apparently black (well, at least he was speaking in idiomatic english assosciated with blacks).

She was dead. I shot her twice, she best be dead … (The man) had run off and left her.”

As such, I doubt this case of armed idiocy goes any where on CNN and I doubt Obama references it in speeches. For them, the only armed idiots worth reporting on are the white ones- or in the case of Zimmerman, somebody who is a uhmm.... "white hispanic".

Oh good, the race card. Awesome...:roll:
 
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80-Year-Old Extremely Pleased About Killing Pregnant Woman Fleeing Botched Robbery (Video) | Americans Against the Tea Party

I'm glad he killed her too. Those two criminals didn't hesitate to attack an old man and then they were so arrogant as to continue robbing him after they attacked him. I only wish he killed the man too.

While there are time in which one must defend himself with deadly force, taking a human life is never a good thing. Bring jubilant over humans dying is a sign off sociopathic behavior.
 
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The guy is going to go to prison. Shooting an unarmed person running in the back and then gloating about it is not going to win any points with a Jury. There was no threat and there was no risk to property or life at that point and time.

Wonder when all the pro-lifers are going to come in here complaining about it....oh wait....don't see any.

EDIT: Change that, have seen some so ignore the no pro-lifers comment I made, my apologies.
 
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The guy is going to go to prison. Shooting an unarmed person running in the back and then gloating about it is not going to win any points with a Jury. There was no threat and there was no risk to property or life at that point and time.

Wonder when all the pro-lifers are going to come in here complaining about it....oh wait....don't see any.

Jay Dubya is a pretty vocal pro-lifer and he posted on page 2.
 
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Jay Dubya is a pretty vocal pro-lifer and he posted on page 2.

Yeah I added a "edited" comment to include that when I saw it, my apologies.
 
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