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Prophylactic killing in self defense? new concept to me, but I wonder if that is really the basis for the outlandish stand your ground law interepretations that inlude the junk shed in the back yard?

CRUE CAB said:

He had to do it. If not, good chance they would come back again. And nothing wrong with killing, as long as the right people get killed.

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mak2 said:

Prophylactic killing in self defense? new concept to me, but I wonder if that is really the basis for the outlandish stand your ground law interepretations that inlude the junk shed in the back yard?

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I would kill in an instant for the "junk" in my shed. Or in my garage, or under the car port or in my vehicle or in my home. No problem with killing of thieves.

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CRUE CAB said:

Beat this horse all you want, my mind will not be changed in my believe that Mr. Greer did NOTHING wrong. I commend the old guy for doing what he did.
He took scum off the street.

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by nothing wrong, you mean to assert that it is OK to shoot a fleeing person - a woman you had reason to believe was pregnant - twice - in the back - as a statement
that says quite a bit about you

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justabubba said:

by nothing wrong, you mean to assert that it is OK to shoot a fleeing person - a woman you had reason to believe was pregnant - twice - in the back - as a statement
that says quite a bit about you

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OK. It says most of us are tired of thieves and other criminals. Real tired of it.

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reinoe said:

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I'm glad he killed her too. Those two criminals didn't hesitate to attack an old man and then they were so arrogant as to continue robbing him after they attacked him. I only wish he killed the man too.

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Believe whatever you want to believe.

A judge and jury will decide that man's fate.

And they won't be interested in your opinion.

No matter how important that you think it is.




Get a grip.

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shrubnose said:

Believe whatever you want to believe.

A judge and jury will decide that man's fate.

And they won't be interested in your opinion.

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Wont be charged.

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CRUE CAB said:

Wont be charged

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Really doesn't matter.Did you ever hear of a civil suit?

There's more than one way to skin a cat.

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I see this is still going on...

So...If the 80 year old man was a cop, would this be judged a righteous shoot? Tennessee v. Garner - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It seems to meet criteria. The shooter (civilian or law enforcement) had just been attacked and had every reason to believe they posed a serious danger (if not now later). History proves him correct as this was not the dynamic duo's first caper.

I still think he was wrong. However...legally...I think a very strong case could be made that he acted in the same manner law enforcement has and does act in the past.

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shrubnose said:

Really doesn't matter.Did you ever hear of a civil suit?

There's more than one way to skin a cat.

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Id actually like to be in on that jury. "The family of this lying scumbag that has a long history of robbery and assault and who had just committed an act of robbery and was interrupted, at which time they then assaulted an 80 year old man, seeks civil retribution from the 80 year old man".
You can probably guess what my vote would be.

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CRUE CAB said:

He had to do it. If not, good chance they would come back again. And nothing wrong with killing, as long as the right people get killed.

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You never disappoint when it comes to ignorant statements.

What is this old fool had waited till the next day and saw this woman walking down the street. Would it be alright to shoot her then?

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VanceMack said:

Id actually like to be in on that jury. "The family of this lying scumbag that has a long history of robbery and assault and who had just committed an act of robbery and was interrupted, at which time they then assaulted an 80 year old man, seeks civil retribution from the 80 year old man".

You can probably guess what my vote would be.

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Wouldn't matter
Lot's of people on this planet are dishonorable and judge others unfairly, that's nothing new.

What matters is how the trial comes out.

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justabubba said:

by nothing wrong, you mean to assert that it is OK to shoot a fleeing person - a woman you had reason to believe was pregnant - twice - in the back - as a statement
that says quite a bit about you

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Yes it does say a lot about Crue Cab doesn't it? He appears as calloused as this old fool who did the back-shooting.

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shrubnose said:

Wouldn't matter
Lot's of people on this planet are dishonorable and judge others unfairly, that's nothing new.

What matters is how the trial comes out.

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In trial with charges, there is legal precedent. In a civil trial you have to convince a jury that the 80 year old man that just got beaten and robbed by the plaintiff (persons with long records of burglary and assault and who have demonstrated a willingness to prey on 80 year olds with no hesitation whatsoever to perpetrate grievous bodily harm to said octogenarians) was the bad guy.

Turns out the mother of the perpetrator was in on the crime as well. Oh...and we also learned that in addition to their history of robbery and assault, the perpetrators have a recent arrest history included extortion, embezzlement, and receiving funds under false pretenses, all while targeting the elderly.

Now the trial...two home invaders get surprised by the home owner. They tackle him, assault him, and break his collar bone in the process (cuz...80 year old guy...bones aint what they used to be-fear for his life? You bet). They force him to open a safe (after being assaulted and with a broken collar bone). He seizes an opportunity and grabs a 22 revolver and begins to give chase. The words of the perpetrator are irrelevant. One, she is lying, two, she just committed an act of robbery and assault on an 80 year old man.

Again...wrong? Sure...I'd say he shouldnt have shot. Civilly liable? Good luck. In a civil suit ALLLLLL thats stuff is coming out. And thats just the public record that we know about.

Edit Part 2: Watching the videos on the ABC site, there are a whole lot of people (neighbors, the police chief, others) that are on the record talking about how nice the old guy is, about how this was the third time he was burglarized, the chief talked about the duress of having just been assaulted and body slammed and having your collar bone broken, and how it reads like a long time but the whole incident happened in seconds. I dont know...think they will have a hard time convicting him of anything.

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Texmex said:

You never disappoint when it comes to ignorant statements.

What is this old fool had waited till the next day and saw this woman walking down the street. Would it be alright to shoot her then?

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No, I never said that and quit with the hyperbole. It all happened in a few seconds.

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shrubnose said:

Really doesn't matter.Did you ever hear of a civil suit?

There's more than one way to skin a cat.

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Don't look like he has much to take.

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CRUE CAB said:

Don't look like he has much to take.

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Yeah...its highly unlikely a civil lawyer will take this case. No payoff.

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VanceMack said:

Yeah...its highly unlikely a civil lawyer will take this case. No payoff.

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The moment I drop ever have to drop someone, everything I own will be gone by end of business the next day. Got to beat them at their own game.

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CRUE CAB said:

The moment I drop ever have to drop someone, everything I own will be gone by end of business the next day. Got to beat them at their own game.

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Easy there. Im sure old dood needs his 1984 Toyota pickup truck.

Like I said...I just dont see what they get from him. And I GUARANTEE...civil suits? How much do you think HE gets awarded if HE files a civil suit in return for oh...I dont know...being terrorized and robbed on 4 occasions, being assaulted in his own home, and body slammed to the ground breaking his collar bone?

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CRUE CAB said:

No, I never said that and quit with the hyperbole. It all happened in a few seconds.

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I believe it took more than a few seconds for this old fool to get his weapon and chase this woman out of his house to murder her.

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Texmex said:

I believe it took more than a few seconds for this old fool to get his weapon and chase this woman out of his house to murder her.

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OH, you were there?

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VanceMack said:

Easy there. Im sure old dood needs his 1984 Toyota pickup truck.

Like I said...I just dont see what they get from him. And I GUARANTEE...civil suits? How much do you think HE gets awarded if HE files a civil suit in return for oh...I dont know...being terrorized and robbed on 4 occasions, being assaulted in his own home, and body slammed to the ground breaking his collar bone?

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Civil suit cant take primary means of transportation.

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CRUE CAB said:

Civil suit cant take primary means of transportation.

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Wahoo. Then he is pretty much set. That 19 inch tube TV isnt going to be worth much. Of course...he has a 22lr revolver lying around somewhere...

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VanceMack said:

Wahoo. Then he is pretty much set. That 19 inch tube TV isnt going to be worth much. Of course...he has a 22lr revolver lying around somewhere...

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She has to have someone to file the suit. Child probably. If there is none, oh well.

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CRUE CAB said:

OH, you were there?

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I was as close to the scene as you were.

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Texmex said:

I was as close to the scene as you were.

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So? You are the one whining about her fate. Blame her and her boyfriend, not the person they victimized.