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Reid: Southern border is secure

The establishment wing of the republican party is just as guilty because they are in bed with the Chamber of commerce, who wants cheap labor available. However major donors to progressive causes (George Soros) is an open borders guy. Not only do open borders progressives not want security, they don't want any enforcement at all.

And we agree. Big business isn't interested in secure borders and both parties pander to big business. So open borders it is. That want stop the partisan finger pointing though, they always stand too close to the picture.
 
And we agree. Big business isn't interested in secure borders and both parties pander to big business. So open borders it is. That want stop the partisan finger pointing though, they always stand too close to the picture.

We agree on the culprits, not the solution! No open borders! Enforcement and security needs to be stringent.
 
We agree on the culprits, not the solution! No open borders! Enforcement and security needs to be stringent.

We agree on the solution too! I want the same as you do, SECURE BORDERS. I'm just saying that partisans in America far out way the neutral that are more interested in things being right than who's in power. And THEY won't hold their presidents and party controlled congresses accountable. They are to busy blaming each other. And don't think that politicians don't exploit this foolish partisan bickering. It's great for them. But then try to reason with one, they absolutely believe there party is white, (good) the other black, (bad).
 
We agree on the solution too! I want the same as you do, SECURE BORDERS. I'm just saying that partisans in America far out way the neutral that are more interested in things being right than who's in power. And THEY won't hold their presidents and party controlled congresses accountable. They are to busy blaming each other. And don't think that politicians don't exploit this foolish partisan bickering. It's great for them. But then try to reason with one, they absolutely believe there party is white, (good) the other black, (bad).

Because we agree, let's start with this:

Hold the current administration accountable (Obama) and then all subsequent administrations. Are you with me? Because there is no point talking about Bush's responsibility in this, he is no longer in a position to do anything.
 
Because we agree, let's start with this:

Hold the current administration accountable (Obama) and then all subsequent administrations. Are you with me? Because there is no point talking about Bush's responsibility in this, he is no longer in a position to do anything.

Well sure, that was an easy lift for you because I want this president held accountable as I did the one before and the one before that, and the one before that, etc. Now, go get the partisans on the left providing cover for this president. And then, next GOP administration, lets hold him/her accountable as well. Of course then we'll have the heavy lift of getting the partisan right to co-operate.
 
The border is not secure, on that I think we all agree. So, what now? Do we:

1. enforce existing law,
2. rant about how we need a new law,
3. try to blame the other party for the problem,
4. Both 2 and 3?
 
The border is not secure, on that I think we all agree. So, what now? Do we:

1. enforce existing law,
2. rant about how we need a new law,
3. try to blame the other party for the problem,
4. Both 2 and 3?

I vote for number 1
 
Maybe enraged folks on the GOP "side" might want to consider what the Pope said today along with the clergy in Texas.

So religion matters to you now? Didn't they remove the Ten Commandments from a Texas courthouse a few years ago? Is the Pope also an expert on border security?
 
Maybe enraged folks on the GOP "side" might want to consider what the Pope said today along with the clergy in Texas.

There are only 2 sides in this.

Americans and invaders.

The GOP and the Democrats are on the same side of this, evenif you don't want them to be.
 
The border itself is secure. I mean, who's going to steal a river and an imaginary line?
 
The border itself is secure. I mean, who's going to steal a river and an imaginary line?

That is true but it is getting harder and harder to keep the US water on the US side. It keeps going back and forth over the line.
 
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