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UK bans Teaching of Creationism in Any school that receives Public Funding.....

This stuff probably shouldn't be taught in hard science classes. It would be foolish, though, to not make it available. Denying human spirituality is denying reality.

We have R.E classes ( relgious education) which goes over most relgions, social movements etc
 
On Thursday, the United Kingdom expanded its ban on the teaching of creationism from all state schools, to all state schools as well as semi-private Free Schools and Academies.

The decision effectively means that no school in the United Kingdom can teach creationism or any other “anti-scientific” dogma without losing the entirety of its funding, as they would be violating “the requirement on every academy and free school to provide a broad and balanced curriculum. According to a press release from the British Humanist Association (BHA), the new rules “explicitly require that pupils are taught about the theory of evolution, and prevent academy trusts from teaching ‘creationism’ as scientific fact.”

Not even Intelligent Design — the favored faux-scientific theory of American creationists who wish to import biblical beliefs into public school classrooms — can be taught, as “creationism” is defined by the new rule as “any doctrine or theory which holds that natural biological processes cannot account for the history, diversity, and complexity of life on earth and therefore rejects the scientific theory of evolution.”.....snip~

UK bans teaching of creationism in any school that receives public funding


Well.....now we know what the Progressives and libs will picks up as a mantra for over here in the US, huh? Looks like the Brits will lead that way. What say ye?

It can't come soon enough
 
I understand not teaching it in science class, but it should be brought up, there is room for intelligent design to fit into the theory of evolution and many believe that (I do).

and some people believe in mermaids and ancient aliens.....but that doesn't make it so. There is no room anywhere for intelligent design. Even one of its leading supporters agreed it is not science.
 
We have R.E classes ( relgious education) which goes over most relgions, social movements etc

Yeah, I saw that and it's a good thing. Students can make any connections between science and religion on their own if they see common ground.
 
We have R.E classes ( relgious education) which goes over most relgions, social movements etc

That's in Public Schools Higgins? Teaching about the Practicing religions today?
 
This stuff probably shouldn't be taught in hard science classes. It would be foolish, though, to not make it available. Denying human spirituality is denying reality.

AS IU showed earlier in the thread, creationism and ID can be taught, even in science class. The only thing this law does is not allow schools which receive government money to teach them as evidence based science. This does not stop a science class from teaching about them, as long as it is not taught as science. It could be taught as a nonscientific alternative to evolution though.
 
Yeah, I saw that and it's a good thing. Students can make any connections between science and religion on their own if they see common ground.

As it should be. Let them question and look for their answers.
 
and some people believe in mermaids and ancient aliens.....but that doesn't make it so. There is no room anywhere for intelligent design. Even one of its leading supporters agreed it is not science.

And some people believe science will answer everything, but so far it's demonstrably not so.
 
And some people believe science will answer everything, but so far it's demonstrably not so.

yet it truly seeks answers and is willing to question itself. And that is how we learn. THE MORE YOU KNOW
 
yet it truly seeks answers and is willing to question itself. And that is how we learn. THE MORE YOU KNOW

I'm a science enthusiast, like many. Serious religious inquiry also questions itself. The results of such inquiry may or may not produce a predictable or even desirable result, depending on the personal sincerity of the inquiring party. That's the nature of spiritual investigation.
 
That's in Public Schools Higgins? Teaching about the Practicing religions today?

Yep. Its a seperate class you take from the age of 11-14. You can then choose to keep studying R.E as a GCSE from the age of 14-16 or you cna drop it.
 
Yep. Its a seperate class you take from the age of 11-14. You can then choose to keep studying R.E as a GCSE from the age of 14-16 or you cna drop it.


Like an elective.....not required to graduate, huh.


Whats the cost for what they would classify as Community College as opposed to Universities?
 
I'm a science enthusiast, like many. Serious religious inquiry also questions itself. The results of such inquiry may or may not produce a predictable or even desirable result, depending on the personal sincerity of the inquiring party. That's the nature of spiritual investigation.

except it is done without evidence and thus has no place being taught as science.
 
Like an elective.....not required to graduate, huh.


Whats the cost for what they would classify as Community College as opposed to Universities?

Well our school system is very different from the US. You don't really " graduate" or receive a diploma. We have GCSE's which we take at the age of 16, you take a GCSE course in Maths, English, Science, a language, IT and then 3 classes of your choice. GCSE'S are a 2 year course and at the end of the 2 years you sit exams which determine what your next step is. You either go on in school for another 2 years after that and take your A-Levels which normally lead to higher education ( university) or you take on an apprenticeship, take some courses in your local community college or join the work force.
 
On Thursday, the United Kingdom expanded its ban on the teaching of creationism from all state schools, to all state schools as well as semi-private Free Schools and Academies.

The decision effectively means that no school in the United Kingdom can teach creationism or any other “anti-scientific” dogma without losing the entirety of its funding, as they would be violating “the requirement on every academy and free school to provide a broad and balanced curriculum. According to a press release from the British Humanist Association (BHA), the new rules “explicitly require that pupils are taught about the theory of evolution, and prevent academy trusts from teaching ‘creationism’ as scientific fact.”

Not even Intelligent Design — the favored faux-scientific theory of American creationists who wish to import biblical beliefs into public school classrooms — can be taught, as “creationism” is defined by the new rule as “any doctrine or theory which holds that natural biological processes cannot account for the history, diversity, and complexity of life on earth and therefore rejects the scientific theory of evolution.”.....snip~

UK bans teaching of creationism in any school that receives public funding


Well.....now we know what the Progressives and libs will picks up as a mantra for over here in the US, huh? Looks like the Brits will lead that way. What say ye?

I approve. No school that receives public funding should be allowed to teach religion masquerading as science. Save it for comparative religion or theology electives.
 
Well.....they might want to consider adding the Ancient Astronaut Theory to the science curriculum then. Just sayin!

Pseudoscience and fiction have no place in the science curriculum.
 
I've just spoken to my daughter (who is in her teens and attends a state school). The subject (creationism) was discussed in both RE and later in her Philosophy class. It was taught NOT as some fact just, as something some Christians believe.

Paul
 
Well, that's why Historians do check with the Military with Associations to Governments belonging to Countries. More than likely why its been re-written several times already.

Maybe, but that is not a proven fact. And why would they check with the military? And most if not all military is associated with governments belonging to countries. Or else they would be militia's and in a lot of countries militias are not legal.
 
Maybe, but that is not a proven fact. And why would they check with the military? And most if not all military is associated with governments belonging to countries. Or else they would be militia's and in a lot of countries militias are not legal.

Because, like with the US they are the first to know most events concerning the country. Especially if advanced enough to cover their own Air Space.
 
Because, like with the US they are the first to know most events concerning the country. Especially if advanced enough to cover their own Air Space.

But then we are only talking about the current situation, the military of today cannot give any information about the time before flight or radar. NASA might be a better source for warnings about visitors from outer space. As would be the European equivalent of NASA.

And again, talking about re-writing history because of visitors from outer space is pure speculation IMHO.
 
But then we are only talking about the current situation, the military of today cannot give any information about the time before flight or radar. NASA might be a better source for warnings about visitors from outer space. As would be the European equivalent of NASA.

And again, talking about re-writing history because of visitors from outer space is pure speculation IMHO.


Who says they have to be visitors.....its science we may find out ourselves.
 
Shouldn't school be the one place where children are not deliberately confused?
 
except it is done without evidence and thus has no place being taught as science.

I never suggested that it should be taught as science or, for that matter, that science should be presented as religion, or that one precludes the possibility of the other.
 
Shouldn't school be the one place where children are not deliberately confused?

They should be exposed to a variety of philosophies and ideas. If that confuses them, then perhaps they don't need to go into university level work.

They shouldn't be told that creationism is science, or that it is an alternative theory to evolution, or anything else that has been proven false.
 
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