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Suspected: Birther shoots two law enforcement officers [W:79, 167:196:216]

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actually recently the right wing noise machine has been all over Putin with love.....please keep up.

yawn-what "right wing noise machine"
 
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How old were you at the end of the 60's?
Hardly old enough to know what a Bircher was unless you were told .

the XO of the USS Pueblo came to my HS. He was a member of the John Birch Society. I had lunch with him after his discussion of the captivity of that ship by Communists. to claim that anti-communism was not the main driving force of JBS is just plain moronic.
 
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You'd have to have been born yesterday to not know who Glenn Beck is. Thanks to Beck and the Koch brothers the Birchers are making a comeback and today they are mainly anti-government, anti-immigrant, anti-UN, anti-environment, anti-regulations, anti- anti- anti-...no, no, no.....

I was correcting your error about the Birchers. Beck is a different matter
 
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Well, if you're going post like an idiot you might just as well go full retard so, well done.

Ya mean there ain't no guilt by association? who knew!
 
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Wasn't Hillary the Original Birther?

She sure was. She and her supporters.


If you haven’t been trolling the fever swamps of online conspiracy sites or opening those emails from Uncle Larry, you may well wonder: Where did this idea come from? Who started it? And is there a grain of truth there?

The answer lies in Democratic, not Republican politics, and in the bitter, exhausting spring of 2008. At the time, the Democratic presidential primary was slipping away from Hillary Clinton and some of her most passionate supporters grasped for something, anything that would deal a final reversal to Barack Obama.



Birtherism: Where it all began - Ben Smith and Byron Tau - POLITICO.com
 
Re: Suspected: Birther shoots two law enforcement officers

Wasn't Hillary the Original Birther?

anonymous e-mails from supporters of Hillary Clinton surfaced that questioned Obama's citizenship in an attempt to revive Clinton's faltering primary election campaign. These and numerous other chain e-mails during the subsequent presidential election circulated false rumors about Obama's origin, religion and birth certificate

Barack Obama citizenship conspiracy theories - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
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She sure was. She and her supporters.


If you haven’t been trolling the fever swamps of online conspiracy sites or opening those emails from Uncle Larry, you may well wonder: Where did this idea come from? Who started it? And is there a grain of truth there?

The answer lies in Democratic, not Republican politics, and in the bitter, exhausting spring of 2008. At the time, the Democratic presidential primary was slipping away from Hillary Clinton and some of her most passionate supporters grasped for something, anything that would deal a final reversal to Barack Obama.



Birtherism: Where it all began - Ben Smith and Byron Tau - POLITICO.com
There's no proof she herself was involved, the target was her supporters.
 
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Wasn't Hillary the Original Birther?
It was an issue dug up by supporters of Hillary during the 2008 primaries.


P.S. High profile campaigns like this are pretty well coordinated. Hillary didn't denounce the people on her side that were pushing the issue so, at the least, this is sort of a "wink wink, nod nod" approval.
 
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There's no proof she herself was involved, the target was her supporters.

Ah, so it was her supporters, you agree.

I think the guy discussed in the OP was a Hillary supporter, since we agree that Hillary supporters were the original birthers.
 
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Nobody was given an AR-15 to "patrol." Typical Obama White House making **** up again.

Here's what is confusing on Brent Cole's Twitter page.

Brent Douglas Cole
@stat_ag Private surety for the public security.

Alaska
facebook.com/BanNukes Joined January 2012

If you go to the Ban Nukes Facebook page it looks more like a left wing eviormental wacko site, chem trails and all. And there's Brent Cole's photos. https://www.facebook.com/BanNukes

Defiantly not right wing but defiantly loony left.


Jerad Miller at Bundy camp:

miller.jpg
 
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the XO of the USS Pueblo came to my HS. He was a member of the John Birch Society. I had lunch with him after his discussion of the captivity of that ship by Communists. to claim that anti-communism was not the main driving force of JBS is just plain moronic.

My brother bought a lot of things from him shortly before died, my brother is a huge militaria collector. In fact, he just bought a MiG.
 
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I could be wrong but I think Portlandians are probably more concerned about the chemicals and purity of the water than they are about communist mind control conspiracies. Besides, a lot of liberals are environmentalists, vegatarians, vegans, buy organically grown food, oppose GMOs, etc, ...so why wouldn't they be concerned about chemicals in the water supply?
Which is exactly the logic of why I am troubled by this thread. Just because someone wonders about something, such as the inconsistency in Obama's own writings about his birthplace or the value of fluoride in water doesn't mean that they deserve some smear that implies ridicule them for all their beliefs.

Yes, Portlanders are very proud of their water supply and want to keep it pure and "natural", despite any science that indicates the value of fluoride. Despite the science strongly in favor of some GMO products, such as golden rice, or vaccinations, there are some who hold onto their beliefs. Extrapolating from that to some overall condemnation and ridicule is illogical.
 
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That's the first question that comes to mind?

Yes, and it's not surprising. Those who are hyperpartisan ALWAYs try to take a situation and find a way to make it exceedingly political in an "us vs them" fashion and use it to attack and smear the entire side. It's what they do.

The guilt by association notion is ridiculous here, but it's become a staple of politics. Whether or not he's a birther is largely irrelevant to his actions. Whether or not he's "far right wing" is pretty irrelevant as well. The only relevancy is attempting to do a political "7 steps to Kevin Bacon" as a means of attempting to smear "The right" and those within it as a whole based on the individual actions of one man.

The reality is crazy conspiracy theorists reside on all sides of the political spectrum and, by and large, rarely actually represent an accurate depiction of the vast majority of those within that political wing.
 
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whomever has this question pop into their little heads the first thing after any shooting incident needs to be ignored... their brain is not functioning properly.

Con deflection-

When some 'libbo' goes off the reservation that is just a typical libbo, and ALL libbos are like this and must be eliminated.

When some CON nut job goes off the reservation well that's just ONE bad apple (Speeches about DNA purity, racist signs, shooting cops, and calls for politicians who don't vote the way the CON loud mouth wants to be frogmarched out and shot, or some punk 'macho' speak about long range assassination)

Radical mindsets breed radical actions- unfortunately most of the big talkers are too cowardly to back their crap up but it does incite others.
 
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yawn-what "right wing noise machine"

you aren't aware of the right wing noise machine......... How is it that you repeat so much of what they say.
 
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She sure was. She and her supporters.


If you haven’t been trolling the fever swamps of online conspiracy sites or opening those emails from Uncle Larry, you may well wonder: Where did this idea come from? Who started it? And is there a grain of truth there?

The answer lies in Democratic, not Republican politics, and in the bitter, exhausting spring of 2008. At the time, the Democratic presidential primary was slipping away from Hillary Clinton and some of her most passionate supporters grasped for something, anything that would deal a final reversal to Barack Obama.



Birtherism: Where it all began - Ben Smith and Byron Tau - POLITICO.com

except HIllary never said a word about it....and the looked into it and dropped it immediately..........another right wing lie.
 
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Yes, and it's not surprising. Those who are hyperpartisan ALWAYs try to take a situation and find a way to make it exceedingly political in an "us vs them" fashion and use it to attack and smear the entire side. It's what they do.

The guilt by association notion is ridiculous here, but it's become a staple of politics. Whether or not he's a birther is largely irrelevant to his actions. Whether or not he's "far right wing" is pretty irrelevant as well. The only relevancy is attempting to do a political "7 steps to Kevin Bacon" as a means of attempting to smear "The right" and those within it as a whole based on the individual actions of one man.

The reality is crazy conspiracy theorists reside on all sides of the political spectrum and, by and large, rarely actually represent an accurate depiction of the vast majority of those within that political wing.

Yeah, but this is the 4th such shooting by people with the same conspiracy beliefs in 2 weeks. Don't you think that is kind of strange?
 
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Uh, I saw a whole lot of extreme conservatives at Free Republic gushing over Putin....you know...he hates the gayz too!

Freepers like Putin now? lulz.

makes sense. that site is the DPRK of the internet. woohoo!

:lol:
 
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except HIllary never said a word about it....and the looked into it and dropped it immediately..........another right wing lie.

"another right wing lie"? It is amazing how some people will praise Hillary and know NOTHING about her. I have been on other forums where die hard Hillary supporters had NO idea that she was on the Board of Directors for that EVIL corporation WalMart. And those same lemmings had NO idea that Hillary was anti-union. And one of the most pathetic items about Hillary that the lemmings did NOT know was that Hillary was fired from the Watergate Comm. Hillary owns the Birther issue about Obama, it was her campaign that pushed it therefore she OWNS it.
 
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Freepers like Putin now? lulz.

makes sense. that site is the DPRK of the internet. woohoo!

:lol:


Yeah, he stands up to Obama.. and he hates gays etc. FR is basically the most self loathing site on the internet now. It is always worth a hearty laugh.
 
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"another right wing lie"? It is amazing how some people will praise Hillary and know NOTHING about her. I have been on other forums where die hard Hillary supporters had NO idea that she was on the Board of Directors for that EVIL corporation WalMart. And those same lemmings had NO idea that Hillary was anti-union. And one of the most pathetic items about Hillary that the lemmings did NOT know was that Hillary was fired from the Watergate Comm. Hillary owns the Birther issue about Obama, it was her campaign that pushed it therefore she OWNS it.

When was the last time Hillary or her campaign said anything about where Obama was born? Many years ago, during the fist Obama election, and they dropped it.

When was the last time that the birther movement said anything about where Obama was born? Got a stopwatch?
 
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Yeah, but this is the 4th such shooting by people with the same conspiracy beliefs in 2 weeks. Don't you think that is kind of strange?

Not particularly. It's the 4th such shooting by people who most likely breathed, ate McDonalds, and watched TV. Even looking at the group in question, they're 4 or 5 people out of THOUSANDS, and tens of thousands when people start going into the "tea party" notion....with those thousands upon thousands of other individuals not shooting anyone. So if it was truly in some way the ideology that was largely driving the individuals to commit these henious actions, and thus deserves to be used as a means to slander and smear others via this ridiculous guilt by association tactic, then one would expect that the ratio of murders within the group to be FAR higher.

What I think is it's a hyper partisan desperately attempting to grab something, as evidenced by the pathetic notion that THIS is the "first question" you ask, to make it an issue simply and singularly as a means of attempting to apply guilt to an entire mass group of people over the actions of individuals.

If there were 4 cases of "birthers" or "tea parties" saving a persons life in some fashion in the past 2 weeks would that somehow be some kind of indication that Tea Parties save lives? Absolutely not. It'd mean those INDIVIDUALS saved peoples lives. To boil down the motivation and reasons behind why they followed that impulse and did what they did to a singular thing, and that thing being a political ideology, is laughable. Just as it's laughable to attempt to boil down why these murders occured seemingly simply to the fact they held a particular political ideology in a pathetic and disgusting bid to cast stones against the group at large.
 
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When was the last time Hillary or her campaign said anything about where Obama was born? Many years ago, during the fist Obama election, and they dropped it.

When was the last time that the birther movement said anything about where Obama was born? Got a stopwatch?

I see you are a little upset about Hillary being the ORIGINAL BIRTHER.
 
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I see you are a little upset about Hillary being the ORIGINAL BIRTHER.

No, I think you are a little bit obsessed and are trying to cling on to something. Nice all caps though, that really made the post so much more important.
 
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