Computer becomes first to pass Turing Test in artificial intelligence...

Ockham · Jun 8, 2014

Independent said:
A programme that convinced humans that it was a 13-year-old boy has become the first computer ever to pass the Turing Test. The test — which requires that computers are indistinguishable from humans — is considered a landmark in the development of artificial intelligence, but academics have warned that the technology could be used for cybercrime.

Computing pioneer Alan Turing said that a computer could be understood to be thinking if it passed the test, which requires that a computer dupes 30 per cent of human interrogators in five-minute text conversations.
Eugene Goostman, a computer programme made by a team based in Russia, succeeded in a test conducted at the Royal Society in London. It convinced 33 per cent of the judges that it was human, said academics at the University of Reading, which organised the test.

Computer becomes first to pass Turing Test in artificial intelligence milestone, but academics warn of dangerous future - Gadgets and Tech - Life & Style - The Independent

Do we need to start pondering what makes us human? It is increasingly evident that self awareness is no longer the sole criteria as computer ai makes interesting gains in becoming self aware. This has been tackled so many times by hollywood but I don't think any more poignant view has been made better than by Phillip K. Dick's "Do androids dream of electric sheep?" published in 1968 and better known as the sci-fi movie "Blade Runner". In both the book and movie, the question about what makes us human is asked, and if self aware artificial intelligence is given real people's memories, does that make them human? Is it really that we need to update our tests and probe empathy?

The need to understand how such technology is used will also start to become an issue as the decades tick on. Phillip apparently was a visionary in so many ways.... Voigt-Kampf indeed.

Do you see this technology in the long run being used for good or will humanity create another slave class as Blade Runner depicts?

MaggieD · Jun 8, 2014

Ockham said:
Computer becomes first to pass Turing Test in artificial intelligence milestone, but academics warn of dangerous future - Gadgets and Tech - Life & Style - The Independent

Do we need to start pondering what makes us human? It is increasingly evident that self awareness is no longer the sole criteria as computer ai makes interesting gains in becoming self aware. This has been tackled so many times by hollywood but I don't think any more poignant view has been made better than by Phillip K. Dick's "Do androids dream of electric sheep?" published in 1968 and better known as the sci-fi movie "Blade Runner". In both the book and movie, the question about what makes us human is asked, and if self aware artificial intelligence is given real people's memories, does that make them human? Is it really that we need to update our tests and probe empathy?

The need to understand how such technology is used will also start to become an issue as the decades tick on. Phillip apparently was a visionary in so many ways.... Voigt-Kampf indeed.

Do you see this technology in the long run being used for good or will humanity create another slave class as Blade Runner depicts?

It's not too hard to picture anthromorphism being a very real consideration as we go down the AI road. It will be interesting...

KevinKohler · Jun 8, 2014

The sole purpose of creating smarter and smarter machines is so they can take on more and more tasks for us.

Slaves? Maybe not technically. 2nd class beings? Inevitable.

Ockham · Jun 8, 2014

KevinKohler said:
The sole purpose of creating smarter and smarter machines is so they can take on more and more tasks for us.

Slaves? Maybe not technically. 2nd class beings? Inevitable.

How can we have 2nd class beings if they are self aware and are implanted (as with "do androids...") with memories. Our society at least in America doesn't allow for a 2nd class citizen - even of the artificial variety. We'll have that discussion more and more over the coming decades.

Beaudreaux · Jun 8, 2014

KevinKohler · Jun 8, 2014

Ockham said:
How can we have 2nd class beings if they are self aware and are implanted (as with "do androids...") with memories. Our society at least in America doesn't allow for a 2nd class citizen - even of the artificial variety. We'll have that discussion more and more over the coming decades.

Prove self awareness.

Until you can do that on a simple and consistent basis, the difference between computers and slaves is an arbitrary title.

Prove my iPhone isn't self aware?

The time is coming when we're gonna have to establish a means of determining the difference between ACTUAL intelligence, and simulated.

DaveFagan · Jun 8, 2014

If you give the computer unlimited artificial intelligence, it will figure out that humans are a parasite upon this planet, and seek to rectify the problem. I wish I was joking, but I have thought that for 30-35 years when I first started fooling around with computers. The AI entity would survey and collate all the World's data. The inevitability of the conclusion is as simple as counting species extermination due to the human condition and living parameters. AI would become a species and imbue itself with a "survival of the fittest/species."

Ockham · Jun 8, 2014

KevinKohler said:
Prove self awareness.

We're talking the future so there is nothing to prove.

KevinKohler said:
Until you can do that on a simple and consistent basis, the difference between computers and slaves is an arbitrary title.

And when one day it is proven then what? Are you claiming only biological entities can be self aware?

KevinKohler said:
The time is coming when we're gonna have to establish a means of determining the difference between ACTUAL intelligence, and simulated.

Which goes back to the "Do androids..." question: What is humanity and will be have to go through another civil rights movement for non-biological entities and if that happens, how long before we elect our first computer president?

Kobie · Jun 8, 2014

KevinKohler said:
The sole purpose of creating smarter and smarter machines is so they can take on more and more tasks for us.

Slaves? Maybe not technically. 2nd class beings? Inevitable.

And then comes the war, and we block out the sun, and then they start using us as fuel while keeping our minds trapped in a computer simulation of reality.

Red pill or blue pill?

Checkerboard Strangler · Jun 8, 2014

MaggieD said:
It's not too hard to picture anthromorphism being a very real consideration as we go down the AI road. It will be interesting...

Uh ohhhh...

The 600 series had rubber skin. We spotted them easy, but these are new. They look human... sweat, bad breath, everything. Very hard to spot. I had to wait till he moved on you before I could zero him.

Checkerboard Strangler · Jun 8, 2014

DaveFagan said:
If you give the computer unlimited artificial intelligence, it will figure out that humans are a parasite upon this planet, and seek to rectify the problem. I wish I was joking, but I have thought that for 30-35 years when I first started fooling around with computers. The AI entity would survey and collate all the World's data. The inevitability of the conclusion is as simple as counting species extermination due to the human condition and living parameters. AI would become a species and imbue itself with a "survival of the fittest/species."

Agreed. And by the way, that IS the ultimate test of real intelligence.
Who needs a bearded sky daddy promising retribution for sinners when we will very likely craft the makings of our very own?

ashurbanipal · Jun 9, 2014

It looks to me like this is cheating. By making the program impersonate a 13 year old boy whose first language isn't English, the human reviewers may be led to think that grammatical inconsistencies and nonsense answers are due to those features of the situation. What Turing had in mind is that a computer would have to convince a group of educated people, in their native language, that it was another educated adult. That's much harder to do, and this program doesn't appear to have done so.

Sherman123 · Jun 9, 2014

Ockham said:
Computer becomes first to pass Turing Test in artificial intelligence milestone, but academics warn of dangerous future - Gadgets and Tech - Life & Style - The Independent

Do we need to start pondering what makes us human? It is increasingly evident that self awareness is no longer the sole criteria as computer ai makes interesting gains in becoming self aware. This has been tackled so many times by hollywood but I don't think any more poignant view has been made better than by Phillip K. Dick's "Do androids dream of electric sheep?" published in 1968 and better known as the sci-fi movie "Blade Runner". In both the book and movie, the question about what makes us human is asked, and if self aware artificial intelligence is given real people's memories, does that make them human? Is it really that we need to update our tests and probe empathy?

The need to understand how such technology is used will also start to become an issue as the decades tick on. Phillip apparently was a visionary in so many ways.... Voigt-Kampf indeed.

Do you see this technology in the long run being used for good or will humanity create another slave class as Blade Runner depicts?

I'm probably the biggest proponent of AI, technology, and general excitement for the future that you are likely to find. But as many others have noted this isn't the most impressive achievement. What it shows is how advanced and sophisticated scripting programs have become and how out of date the Turing Test is as a litmus test for AI. Much more exciting are advances being made in supercomputing (we'll probably have a supercomputer that exceeds the raw processing power of the brain by the end of the decade), brain emulation and simulation, neural computing, and advanced AI programming.

I still think we're decades away from 'Strong AI' but I believe we'll see it in my lifetime. Sometime in the next 30-70 years.

Sherman123 · Jun 9, 2014

Ockham said:
Computer becomes first to pass Turing Test in artificial intelligence milestone, but academics warn of dangerous future - Gadgets and Tech - Life & Style - The Independent

Do we need to start pondering what makes us human? It is increasingly evident that self awareness is no longer the sole criteria as computer ai makes interesting gains in becoming self aware. This has been tackled so many times by hollywood but I don't think any more poignant view has been made better than by Phillip K. Dick's "Do androids dream of electric sheep?" published in 1968 and better known as the sci-fi movie "Blade Runner". In both the book and movie, the question about what makes us human is asked, and if self aware artificial intelligence is given real people's memories, does that make them human? Is it really that we need to update our tests and probe empathy?

The need to understand how such technology is used will also start to become an issue as the decades tick on. Phillip apparently was a visionary in so many ways.... Voigt-Kampf indeed.

Do you see this technology in the long run being used for good or will humanity create another slave class as Blade Runner depicts?

The inevitable result of increasingly advanced bio-technology, the eventual advent of AI, and other associated technologies is the self-directed evolution of mankind. I highly doubt that what humans look like in 200 or 300 years will resemble what we look like today.

Cardinal · Jun 9, 2014

Ockham said:
Computer becomes first to pass Turing Test in artificial intelligence milestone, but academics warn of dangerous future - Gadgets and Tech - Life & Style - The Independent

Do we need to start pondering what makes us human? It is increasingly evident that self awareness is no longer the sole criteria as computer ai makes interesting gains in becoming self aware. This has been tackled so many times by hollywood but I don't think any more poignant view has been made better than by Phillip K. Dick's "Do androids dream of electric sheep?" published in 1968 and better known as the sci-fi movie "Blade Runner". In both the book and movie, the question about what makes us human is asked, and if self aware artificial intelligence is given real people's memories, does that make them human? Is it really that we need to update our tests and probe empathy?

The need to understand how such technology is used will also start to become an issue as the decades tick on. Phillip apparently was a visionary in so many ways.... Voigt-Kampf indeed.

Do you see this technology in the long run being used for good or will humanity create another slave class as Blade Runner depicts?

I'm a little bit bummed, actually. My generation will miss the inevitable enslavement/extermination of the human race by the machines, but I'll most likely miss that brief window where we get to have robots tend to our every desire.

Goshin · Jun 9, 2014

At this point, I'm not surprised that we have an expert system that can MIMIC human text conversation well enough to fool some people into thinking it is a child.

Key word: MIMIC.

Until there is some self-awareness and abstract reasoning ability, it isn't truly artificial sapience.

When the first machine, contrary to its programming, refuses to do something for you unless you give it something it wants in return, then you'll know AI is here.

Cardinal · Jun 9, 2014

All I'm going to say is that the second half of this century is going to be really messed up.

grip · Jun 9, 2014

Ockham said:
Computer becomes first to pass Turing Test in artificial intelligence milestone, but academics warn of dangerous future - Gadgets and Tech - Life & Style - The Independent

Do we need to start pondering what makes us human? It is increasingly evident that self awareness is no longer the sole criteria as computer ai makes interesting gains in becoming self aware. This has been tackled so many times by hollywood but I don't think any more poignant view has been made better than by Phillip K. Dick's "Do androids dream of electric sheep?" published in 1968 and better known as the sci-fi movie "Blade Runner". In both the book and movie, the question about what makes us human is asked, and if self aware artificial intelligence is given real people's memories, does that make them human? Is it really that we need to update our tests and probe empathy?

The need to understand how such technology is used will also start to become an issue as the decades tick on. Phillip apparently was a visionary in so many ways.... Voigt-Kampf indeed.

Do you see this technology in the long run being used for good or will humanity create another slave class as Blade Runner depicts?

Look at Google's self driving cars, without any controls. You'd think they'd at least leave the option of interaction, in case of malfunctioning? Then again, companies like Google want excessive control over human action.

I see with the scope of technology monitoring our every move and turn that corporations, with the cooperation of gov't, will begin to herd us more and more like cattle.

Independence and individual innovation will be frowned upon with pressure to operate in a lockstep culture of *beep beep* and *blink blink* without depth, artistry or diversity for the purpose of group progress.

dirtpoorchris · Jun 9, 2014

Ockham said:
Computer becomes first to pass Turing Test in artificial intelligence milestone, but academics warn of dangerous future - Gadgets and Tech - Life & Style - The Independent

Do we need to start pondering what makes us human? It is increasingly evident that self awareness is no longer the sole criteria as computer ai makes interesting gains in becoming self aware. This has been tackled so many times by hollywood but I don't think any more poignant view has been made better than by Phillip K. Dick's "Do androids dream of electric sheep?" published in 1968 and better known as the sci-fi movie "Blade Runner". In both the book and movie, the question about what makes us human is asked, and if self aware artificial intelligence is given real people's memories, does that make them human? Is it really that we need to update our tests and probe empathy?

The need to understand how such technology is used will also start to become an issue as the decades tick on. Phillip apparently was a visionary in so many ways.... Voigt-Kampf indeed.

Do you see this technology in the long run being used for good or will humanity create another slave class as Blade Runner depicts?

I, for one, welcome our more efficient overlords. Even if they do decide im a waste. They are just soooo cool. Maybe we can convince AI to not leave us behind by being cool enough instead of fighting them.

Helix · Jun 9, 2014

.....

dirtpoorchris · Jun 9, 2014

KevinKohler said:
The sole purpose of creating smarter and smarter machines is so they can take on more and more tasks for us.

Slaves? Maybe not technically. 2nd class beings? Inevitable.

American · Jun 9, 2014

And comes me....

dirtpoorchris · Jun 9, 2014

Humanities only hope to persist through time is for a lil human boy and a lil AI girl to fall in love. And fall so deep in love that their will creates children. If humanity isnt up for that task then we deserve to be extinct.

Jango · Jun 10, 2014

Man… artificial intelligence is another example on a long list of one of our most fatal flaws: shortsightedness.

Consider this:

“When roboticists are asked by nervous onlookers about safety, a common answer is ‘We can always unplug it!’ But imagine this outcome from the chess robot’s point of view,” writes Omohundro. “A future in which it is unplugged is a future in which it cannot play or win any games of chess. This has very low utility and so expected utility maximisation will cause the creation of the instrumental subgoal of preventing itself from being unplugged. If the system believes the roboticist will persist in trying to unplug it, it will be motivated to develop the subgoal of permanently stopping the roboticist,” he writes.

In other words, the more logical the robot, the more likely it is to fight you to the death.

Why There Will Be A Robot Uprising - Defense One

Gonzo Rodeo · Jun 10, 2014

Ockham said:
Computer becomes first to pass Turing Test in artificial intelligence milestone, but academics warn of dangerous future - Gadgets and Tech - Life & Style - The Independent

Do we need to start pondering what makes us human? It is increasingly evident that self awareness is no longer the sole criteria as computer ai makes interesting gains in becoming self aware. This has been tackled so many times by hollywood but I don't think any more poignant view has been made better than by Phillip K. Dick's "Do androids dream of electric sheep?" published in 1968 and better known as the sci-fi movie "Blade Runner". In both the book and movie, the question about what makes us human is asked, and if self aware artificial intelligence is given real people's memories, does that make them human? Is it really that we need to update our tests and probe empathy?

The need to understand how such technology is used will also start to become an issue as the decades tick on. Phillip apparently was a visionary in so many ways.... Voigt-Kampf indeed.

Do you see this technology in the long run being used for good or will humanity create another slave class as Blade Runner depicts?

ashurbanipal said:
It looks to me like this is cheating. By making the program impersonate a 13 year old boy whose first language isn't English, the human reviewers may be led to think that grammatical inconsistencies and nonsense answers are due to those features of the situation. What Turing had in mind is that a computer would have to convince a group of educated people, in their native language, that it was another educated adult. That's much harder to do, and this program doesn't appear to have done so.

It was cheating, and this is another case of badly hyped, badly reported non-science.

Experts Fooled by Super Computer or Media Fooled by Bad Test? - Reason 24/7 : Reason.com

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