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Taliban prisoner swap was ILLEGAL claims GOP as former federal prosecutor says it cou

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I still disagree with the illegal part, but it is refreshing to see CNN finally attack the president on something instead if protect him.

I would have preferred a rescue, but then I don't know enough of the facts. The setting matters. It would be an international nightmare if such a rescue occurred in an urban setting.

The American prisoner converted to islam and is a jihadist. So Obama let 6 jihadists go, not just five! How groovy is that!
 
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I beg to differ with you LOP. While you make the case that the laws are illegal passed by Congress, many could make that claim on several issues. Nevertheless, currently they are the LAW.
I see you do not understand the constitution. Look up separation of powers.

Obama did not make a wise trade. PFC Bergdahl (he was promoted to sergeant while being held captive) is well documented that he was a disserter and good honorable paratroopers lost their lives searching for this bastard. Various sources from Bergdahl’s unit, the 501st Airborne Infantry are reporting in around the Web with this information:
Good or bad trade, I think it is worse that now they will look for taking more Americans as hostages/prisoners. The president has acknowledged he will barter with terrorists.

Please notice, I never said it was a good trade. I only said it was within his rights as president.
 
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The American prisoner converted to islam and is a jihadist. So Obama let 6 jihadists go, not just five! How groovy is that!
I think you are not serious about this debate. Maybe you watch too much Homeland?
 
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Not to side with Obama, but there are plenty of legitimate things he has done wrong. This is not one of them. He is not bound to illegal laws passed by congress, and this is an executive decision.

Please define 'illegal law' and post links.
 
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Obama is NOT going to be impeached.

Of course not. Neither side of the Republocrats actually want to open up that can of worms. They just want to point fingers and feign righteous indignation.
 
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States rights. Obama steps all over the 10th.

I'm not equipped to argue this point, but these guys are:

The ACA and the Tenth Amendment : SCOTUSblog

I find it hard to believe the GOP would turn so venomously against ideas generated from their own party, and I have rarely seen the 10th Amendment even raised as an argument against the ACA.
 
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I see you do not understand the constitution. Look up separation of powers.


Good or bad trade, I think it is worse that now they will look for taking more Americans as hostages/prisoners. The president has acknowledged he will barter with terrorists.

Please notice, I never said it was a good trade. I only said it was within his rights as president.

I understand the laws as they currently stand and any partition of a prisoner's release must go before Congress 30 days prior with justification for the release. Obama chose to ignore that bit of law currently being recognized. Much like Obama ignores much of what the legislative branch does by by-stepping them with regularity with his Executive Order and pen in hand. Look if we have legislators who make law and it is signed into law by a sitting president, until it is changed it is the LAW. You can make a Constitutional argument against the law but that has yet to be done. To me it is just another asinine example of how this president has no respect for LAW. It also shows a lack of judgment when we are now negotiating with terrorists for the release of a so called prisoner and now all Americans oversees have become less safe for it.
 
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I think you are not serious about this debate. Maybe you watch too much Homeland?

Perhaps you don't read enough:

Bergdahl, who was raised a devout Presbyterian, started talking about converting to Islam. Suspicious at first, his captors asked if it was out of fear or frustration that he wanted to convert.

“He told us, ‘Your way of life has impressed me, and I want to live like you,’” said the commander.

Bowe Bergdahl, America’s Only Prisoner Of War, Released - TIME


No doubt you have issue with the source.

BTW: You have not defined 'illegal laws.'
 
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Still waiting for our legal scholar to define 'illegal laws.'
 
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Taliban prisoner swap was ILLEGAL and could lead to Obama's IMPEACHMENT | Mail Online

Taliban prisoner swap was ILLEGAL claims GOP as former federal prosecutor says it could lead to Obama's impeachment

The president ignored a law – which he signed last year – requiring him to notify Congress 30 days before releasing anyone from Guantanamo Bay
The Obama administration never told Capitol Hill until after Bergdahl was in American custody and the US Taliban prisoners were preparing to leave
A former federal prosecutor told MailOnline that while the 30-day-notice law is probably unconstitutional, putting enemy combatants back in a position to harm Americans is an impeachable offense
A White House insider said Obama administration officials didn't anticipate how controversial Bergdahl's rescue would be, and compared it to the 1981 release of 52 US hostages in Iran

If that's true, why on EARTH would he do that?? Unbelievable. That it may be unconstitutional is almost besides the point. He signed it.
 
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If that's true, why on EARTH would he do that?? Unbelievable. That it may be unconstitutional is almost besides the point. He signed it.

Yes, this was an agreement he made with Congress.

Ignoring the law is not a precedent for this administration. Obama and Hizzoner the Attorney General told states to ignore federal drug enforcement laws, laws that the federal government made and that the states enforce.
 
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If that's true, why on EARTH would he do that?? Unbelievable. That it may be unconstitutional is almost besides the point. He signed it.

Obama thinks he above the law.
 
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If that's true, why on EARTH would he do that?? Unbelievable. That it may be unconstitutional is almost besides the point. He signed it.

Maggie D would you believe it if it were news on CNN?

Jeffrey Toobin: Obama ‘Clearly Broke the Law’ on Bergdahl | Mediaite

CNN legal analyst Jeffrey Toobin declared on Monday that President Barack Obama “broke the law” when his administration failed to give Congress notice of at least 30 days before releasing five ranking Taliban members from Guantanamo Bay. Toobin said that a presidential signing statement did not absolve Obama from culpability for failing to abide by the law mandating congressional notification.

“I think he clearly broke the law,” Toobin said. “The law says 30-days’ notice. He didn’t give 30-days’ notice.” Toobin added that Obama’s opinion expressed in a signing statement “is not law.”

it is impeachable BTW
 
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Obama thinks he above the law.

The Republocrats in general believe themselves to be above the law. It's all f'n Judge Dredd for them. "I am the law!".
 
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If that's true, why on EARTH would he do that?? Unbelievable. That it may be unconstitutional is almost besides the point. He signed it.

Maybe he is like peloser and did not read it before signing it.

https://video.search.yahoo.com/vide...c=4&sigr=11aegf8l1&sigt=133h8nsca&age=0&&tt=b

She should be kicked out of office for such a stupid admission that she does not read bills before voting on them.
 
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Maggie D would you believe it if it were news on CNN?

Jeffrey Toobin: Obama ‘Clearly Broke the Law’ on Bergdahl | Mediaite

CNN legal analyst Jeffrey Toobin declared on Monday that President Barack Obama “broke the law” when his administration failed to give Congress notice of at least 30 days before releasing five ranking Taliban members from Guantanamo Bay. Toobin said that a presidential signing statement did not absolve Obama from culpability for failing to abide by the law mandating congressional notification.

“I think he clearly broke the law,” Toobin said. “The law says 30-days’ notice. He didn’t give 30-days’ notice.” Toobin added that Obama’s opinion expressed in a signing statement “is not law.”

it is impeachable BTW


He will not be impeached. No one is willing to deal with the fallout that would occur if he was. We are all going to just keep walking on eggshells until he is out of office, and then try to repair the damage he has done to this country.
 
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The Republocrats in general believe themselves to be above the law. It's all f'n Judge Dredd for them. "I am the law!".

What another informed person here no freaking way! I call them the repukelicrats!!!!! the one party system of ****.

awesome
 
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He will not be impeached. No one is willing to deal with the fallout that would occur if he was. We are all going to just keep walking on eggshells until he is out of office, and then try to repair the damage he has done to this country.

I am willing and demand it actually. He hates america period and i do not trust him one bit.
 
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What another informed person here no freaking way! I call them the repukelicrats!!!!! the one party system of ****.

awesome

It's been a single party system for some time. Others are just too caught up in voting for the "lesser of two evils" to acknowledge that they are still supporting "evil".
 
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I am willing and demand it actually. He hates america period and i do not trust him one bit.

Knock yourself out. No one will act on your demands. Obama's impeachment has been demanded since Benghazi. Look where those demands have gotten you.
 
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It's been a single party system for some time. Others are just too caught up in voting for the "lesser of two evils" to acknowledge that they are still supporting "evil".

Who would you recommend that people vote for who could get elected by way of, say, write ins?
 
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Still waiting for our legal scholar to define 'illegal laws.'
I'm not a legal schoaler, but I play one on the internet :2wave:

A "legal law" is Title Code which is congruent with the letter and intent of the Constitution, like the Civil Rights Act, as opposed to Title Code which is contradictory to the letter and intent of the Constitution, such as The Patriot Act.
 
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I am willing and demand it actually. He hates america period and i do not trust him one bit.
Name for me the democrat senators that will vote for impeachment. In fact, name one.
 
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Not to side with Obama, but there are plenty of legitimate things he has done wrong. This is not one of them. He is not bound to illegal laws passed by congress, and this is an executive decision.

Legal or not...it is one of the more stupid things Obama has done as commander in chief. Now the Taliban and al queda have vastly greater incentive to kidnap Americans.
 
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Knock yourself out. No one will act on your demands. Obama's impeachment has been demanded since Benghazi. Look where those demands have gotten you.

The difference between Benghazi and this is one simple thing, This is proven. :shock:
 
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