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edward snowden full interview with nbc news and brian williams. NBC News interview with Brian Williams Wednesday night, Edward Snowden talked about how 9/11 personally affected him, and charged that the government has exploited that tragedy to justify spying on American citizens.

He said, "It's really disingenuous for the government to invoke and sort of scandalize our memories to sort of exploit the national trauma that we all suffered together and worked so hard to come through to justify programs that have never been shown to keep us safe, but cost us liberties and freedoms that we don't need to give up and our Constitution says we don't need to give up."

Williams challenged him, asking why the government wouldn't want to "cast the widest net possible" after a horrible attack on the country. Snowden argued that the U.S. can't turn into a security state and if the American people want to be free, "we can't become subject to surveillance, we can't give away our privacy, we can't give away our rights."

Watch the video below, via NBC News: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOCmqZzXrdI

God bless this man. God bless him. Its a shame that people view this man as a traitor and not as a hero in our country.
 
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God bless this man. God bless him. Its a shame that people view this man as a traitor and not as a hero in our country.

I'm not sure I would follow you on that one. Data mining is a very potent tool and it seems to me that it will be a backward and vulnerable society that can't find sociatal structures to implement it. That the old systems need adapting or even replacement is just as clear. But how to do this need be the question.
 
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^ What are you talking about? Data mining is a marketing tool. People's activities get monitored by private websites who then use the anonymous data for marketing purposes. That's not the same thing a the government collecting info about your relationships, bank transactions, digital communications, etc... to build a profile on you when you haven't even committed a crime.

Snowden is right. Our government (Republican and then Democrat) rode the 9/11 tragedy all the way to bank. We do not have the level of freedom from government intrusion that we had even back then, and anyone who thinks otherwise is delusional.
 
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God bless this man. God bless him. Its a shame that people view this man as a traitor and not as a hero in our country.

Indeed. A society should not sacrifice its rights for a perceived increase in security.
 
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You guys getting it right now after branding him as a traitor initially.
 
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You guys getting it right now after branding him as a traitor initially.

Who specifically are you addressing?
 
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Who specifically are you addressing?

Nobody in particular. He has revealed the truth. Massive surveillance is obviously unconstitutional.
 
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Nobody in particular. He has revealed the truth. Massive surveillance is obviously unconstitutional.

Absolutely. It has been since it started. The notion that rights should be sacrificed for potential safety is antithetical to a free society.
 
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I hate what the NSA was and still is doing to US Citizens.

Snowden is still a traitor - for doing what he did the way he did it. He damn sure ain't no hero for giving China and then Russia everything that he had.
 
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I don't necessarily consider Snowden a hero per se, but he is a courageous American if not patriot.
 
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God bless this man. God bless him. Its a shame that people view this man as a traitor and not as a hero in our country.

Hippy BS. A guy who steals info to dump for journalists to determine if its dangerous? Im sorry, but thats a low bar, the type only a lefty could celebrate.
 
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Nobody in particular. He has revealed the truth. Massive surveillance is obviously unconstitutional.

We already knew about the metadata, which does not constitute surveillance. The only thing he revealed was specifics, to enemies.
 
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To the lefties who think Snowden was in the right, why dont you extend this line of thought to the IRS scandal, where Americans were targeted based on political ideology? Im not exactly seeing you in the trenches.
 
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To the lefties who think Snowden was in the right, why dont you extend this line of thought to the IRS scandal, where Americans were targeted based on political ideology? Im not exactly seeing you in the trenches.

Exactly how are you "in the trenches"? When's the last time you've actually gone out and enacted change in our government? Have you protested the IRS?
 
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Could you use a larger font? Its everyone else's browser, not yours.
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Yes, and indirectly yes.

So no, you haven't actually done anything other than post on internet forums. You aren't in the trenches, physically or metaphorically.

Im inclined to call you someone who doesn't understand a reply. Read harder.

You said anyone who celebrates Ed Snowden's releases must be a lefty. I want you to explain to me why I'm a lefty.
 
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I'm not sure I would follow you on that one. Data mining is a very potent tool and it seems to me that it will be a backward and vulnerable society that can't find sociatal structures to implement it. That the old systems need adapting or even replacement is just as clear. But how to do this need be the question.

Right. Data mining is a potent tool and the Fourth Amendment is not worth the paper it's written on. :roll:
 
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I hate what the NSA was and still is doing to US Citizens.

Snowden is still a traitor - for doing what he did the way he did it. He damn sure ain't no hero for giving China and then Russia everything that he had.

And how do you know he gave that to China and Russia? Did Brian Williams tell you, or maybe Dianne Feinstein?

More importantly, he gave it to the world, and in a responsible manner.
 
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I hate what the NSA was and still is doing to US Citizens.

Snowden is still a traitor - for doing what he did the way he did it. He damn sure ain't no hero for giving China and then Russia everything that he had.

Do you have evidence he gave them the information? Or are you just making wild accusations and demanding heads roll?
 
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I hate what the NSA was and still is doing to US Citizens.

Snowden is still a traitor - for doing what he did the way he did it. He damn sure ain't no hero for giving China and then Russia everything that he had.

You do realize the deck was and still is stacked against him right? You can't go against the gov't. They won't allow it and will not allow a fair trial. What else is he to do? Just continue the status quo?
 
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