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UPDATE: Pay-To-Pee Teacher Faces No Discipline[W:146]

You can't trust a child to decide what is a potential medical emergency. Nothing more, nothing less.

Again, the basic concept was that the student would let a teacher know of impending excretion.

Conflict of interest isn't relevant to me when it's a child's well being, especially if that child happened to be mine.

It was relevant to the incident.
 
Again, the basic concept was that the student would let a teacher know of impending excretion.



It was relevant to the incident.

And we obviously differ on the capability of a child to know when he/she is at risk of a potential medical emergency.
 
We're in deep trouble if bodily functions are now being doled on a pay per use basis.

I'm sure teachers have only now started to manage and monitor student restroom visits. :roll:
 
And we obviously differ on the capability of a child to know when he/she is at risk of a potential medical emergency.

No, what seems to have happened is you're conflating the two uses of "emergency."
 
I'm sure teachers have only now started to manage and monitor student restroom visits. :roll:

I have 3 kids in public schools. Never once were they told they had to pay to use the bathrooms in school. Does it happen in your kids' schools?
 
Are we truly becoming this stupid, to let little kids pee in their pants because we can't find a different way to teach?
If they're abusing bathroom breaks, they can be cut back without humiliating them.

WTH?!...a teacher once tried to use the denial of a trip to the bathroom on my daughter during two hour class when she was in middle school. Let's just say she came to regret that decision.

I understand that teaching is a hard job, and that they don't get a lot of recognition or credit for the hard work they do. However, they are not all selfless heroes. They often get treated like police officers do; the assumption is made that they are noble and faultless because of their position. I encountered so many teachers when my kids were in school that lacked the temperament, the resourcefulness and the intellect to be teachers and yet there they were, shaping young minds. If, as a teacher, you can't be enough of an adult when disciplining kids then to resort to bully tactics like this then you shouldn't be in the role.
 
I have 3 kids in public schools. Never once were they told they had to pay to use the bathrooms in school. Does it happen in your kids' schools?

Well, that's something new! Sheesh! Do little kids have a time limit on peeing, or something?

Greetings, tres borrachos. :2wave:
 
I'm talking about medical emergencies. Simple as that.

No you're not, unless you misread grip.

Supposedly, the teacher would've let the child go, if it were an emergency. But the little girl only had $50 left of class money and wanted to buy some popcorn with it later, so she peed herself. Now a little kid choosing a treat over the bathroom is not a surprise but a teacher using that as a ransom on a student is SO stupid.

Emergency in that context was on the basis of imminent release, not a medical emergency. You then replied directly to the above message by saying a 7 year old doesn't understand the concept of an emergency, which if you meant what grip meant, you would be incredibly wrong. If you meant a medical emergency, that would almost be beside the point.
 
I have 3 kids in public schools. Never once were they told they had to pay to use the bathrooms in school. Does it happen in your kids' schools?

All the time, throughout the state.
 
WTH?!...a teacher once tried to use the denial of a trip to the bathroom on my daughter during two hour class when she was in middle school. Let's just say she came to regret that decision.

I understand that teaching is a hard job, and that they don't get a lot of recognition or credit for the hard work they do. However, they are not all selfless heroes. They often get treated like police officers do; the assumption is made that they are noble and faultless because of their position. I encountered so many teachers when my kids were in school that lacked the temperament, the resourcefulness and the intellect to be teachers and yet there they were, shaping young minds. If, as a teacher, you can't be enough of an adult when disciplining kids then to resort to bully tactics like this then you shouldn't be in the role.

When I was in 6th grade, my classes were so far apart that I literally couldn't run thru the crowded halls fast enough to get there without being late. My teacher kept sending me to the Dean, who kept paddling me, hard. One day, I came home and couldn't sit down, when my father inquired what was happening. After I explained that the teacher and Dean didn't want to hear my reasoning for being late, my dad called the Dean and said, if he laid another hand on me, my father would kick his ass. My old man was a big dude and not clumsy. They finally believed me and changed my classes around, and I was never tardy again.

It should've never happened, even once, but the school had inflexible rules and didn't want to listen to a legitimate excuse. Some common sense and caring go a long ways in most situations.
 
I very much understand the use of the word emergency.

No, emergency means the 7 year old could be physically harmed by holding in his urine. There are many risks involved.

And who pays if a kid wets his pants because he/she can't wait? Do they have to sit the rest of the day with wet pants? Beware the teacher that tries that with one of my grandchildren! I guarantee the confrontation wouldn't be pleasant, cause I know my children! BTW, I'd do the same! :duel:
 
No you're not, unless you misread grip.



Emergency in that context was on the basis of imminent release, not a medical emergency. You then replied directly to the above message by saying a 7 year old doesn't understand the concept of an emergency, which if you meant what grip meant, you would be incredibly wrong. If you meant a medical emergency, that would almost be beside the point.

grip has nothing to do with my post about medical emergencies and why I oppose a teacher having this kind of power.
 
grip has nothing to do with my post about medical emergencies and why I oppose a teacher having this kind of power.

Alright, but you seem to have this concept that bathroom regulation in the classroom is this surprisingly new and tyrannical idea. It serves as a useful mechanism to instill a disciplined, scheduled restroom routine that still allows for emergencies to override it. You largely are able to keep 20+ students in their desk learning rather than up and about with recreational activities.
 
Straw, that is not what is being discussed.

ESL?

Hi gimme. Is this going to be a trend with you, following me into every thread and posting your opinion about my posts and not the subject of the thread?

I was talking about why I oppose a teacher dictating when and how a child can use the bathroom. Yes, it is the subject of the thread.

Hope you're having a wonderful Sunday!
 
Alright, but you seem to have this concept that bathroom regulation in the classroom is this surprisingly new and tyrannical idea.

I'll ask again. Do the teachers charge your kids to use the bathrooms in school? I never heard of it before. Where is this common practice?
 
When I was in 6th grade, my classes were so far apart that I literally couldn't run thru the crowded halls fast enough to get there without being late. My teacher kept sending me to the Dean, who kept paddling me, hard. One day, I came home and couldn't sit down, when my father inquired what was happening. After I explained that the teacher and Dean didn't want to hear my reasoning for being late, my dad called the Dean and said, if he laid another hand on me, my father would kick his ass. My old man was a big dude and not clumsy. They finally believed me and changed my classes around, and I was never tardy again.

It should've never happened, even once, but the school had inflexible rules and didn't want to listen to a legitimate excuse. Some common sense and caring go a long ways in most situations.

Your father sounds like he is/was a good man. Did the dean paddle you literally or figuratively?
 
More straw from the horse. The discussion is NOT about medical emergencies.

Stop conflating, stop with the straw.

Do you have an opinion on the topic, or are you here to discuss horses (which isn't the subject of the OP)?

Do you have an opinion on charging children to use the bathrooms in public schools? The rest of us in this thread do.

Hope you're having a great Sunday!
 
Hi gimme. Is this going to be a trend with you, following me into every thread and posting your opinion about my posts and not the subject of the thread?
I can do as I wish so long as it does not violate the rules.

The subject of the thread is not "medical emergencies", the irony!
 
I'll ask again. Do the teachers charge your kids to use the bathrooms in school? I never heard of it before. Where is this common practice?

I don't have kids, but yes, students in the state often present a scarcely supplied material to teachers to then be granted access to the restroom when emergencies are not otherwise present. Either this, some other mechanism, or the traditional "yes/no" system from teachers apply.

It is common place throughout the country.
 
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