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Carney: White House Learned About VA Scandal From News Reports[W:72]

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Again, the White House claims the president learned of the VA scandal through news reports... Is this president an out-of-touch idiot, or a calculated habitual liar?


JIM ACOSTA, CNN: When was the president first made aware of these problems? Of these fraudulent lists that were being kept to hide the wait times, when was he first made aware of those problems? And when did other White House officials, top White House officials, become aware of these problems?

JAY CARNEY: When you say these problems, the fact that there have been bureaucracies --

ACOSTA: The delays have been known for some time.

CARNEY: You mean the specific allegations that I think were reported first by your news network out of Phoenix, I believe. We learned about them through the reports. I will double check if that is not the case.



You can see the exchange here:

Carney: White House Learned About VA Scandal From News Reports | Video | RealClearPolitics
 
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Re: OMG are you kidding me? Not that excuse AGAIN!

Both...

Reality with interfere with golf outings and house parties....

Again, the White House claims the president learned of the VA scandal through news reports... Is this president an out-of-touch idiot, or a calculated habitual liar?


JIM ACOSTA, CNN: When was the president first made aware of these problems? Of these fraudulent lists that were being kept to hide the wait times, when was he first made aware of those problems? And when did other White House officials, top White House officials, become aware of these problems?

JAY CARNEY: When you say these problems, the fact that there have been bureaucracies --

ACOSTA: The delays have been known for some time.

CARNEY: You mean the specific allegations that I think were reported first by your news network out of Phoenix, I believe. We learned about them through the reports. I will double check if that is not the case.



You can see the exchange here:

Carney: White House Learned About VA Scandal From News Reports | Video | RealClearPolitics
 
Again, the White House claims the president learned of the VA scandal through news reports... Is this president an out-of-touch idiot, or a calculated habitual liar?


JIM ACOSTA, CNN: When was the president first made aware of these problems? Of these fraudulent lists that were being kept to hide the wait times, when was he first made aware of those problems? And when did other White House officials, top White House officials, become aware of these problems?

JAY CARNEY: When you say these problems, the fact that there have been bureaucracies --

ACOSTA: The delays have been known for some time.

CARNEY: You mean the specific allegations that I think were reported first by your news network out of Phoenix, I believe. We learned about them through the reports. I will double check if that is not the case.



You can see the exchange here:

Carney: White House Learned About VA Scandal From News Reports | Video | RealClearPolitics

I don't understand how that could be true.

Notice the dates:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/28/u...growing-backlog-of-claims.html?pagewanted=all
Veterans dying because of health care delays - CNN.com
Veterans Die Waiting For Benefits As VA Claims Backlog Builds - The Daily Beast
http://www.cnn.com/2013/11/19/health/veterans-dying-health-care-delays/

There were already major signs of a dysfunctional system. It's hard to believe that words weren't exchanged between the VA and the White House.

One thing is crystal clear about this White House denial: plausible deniability is *WAY* overused.
 
Oh, wait! I thought Obama already knew about what was going on at the VA...

Obama, 2007: Time to End 'Deplorable Conditions at Some VA Hospitals' | National Review Online

That means that he either knew and didn't give a rat's ass, or he's a lying piece of ****.

One thing is certain; he's the biggest dumbass that has ever sat in the Oval Office.

Its almost like he is expected to lie. Everybody is done with the spin.

Obama said he was in charge, apparently he is not.
 
Its almost like he is expected to lie. Everybody is done with the spin.

Obama said he was in charge, apparently he is not.

Look where he came from. His mom and dad had the parental instincts of ally cats. His grandparents appeared to have good upbringings, but too bad their parenting skills couldn't over-ride genetics.
 
Again, the White House claims the president learned of the VA scandal through news reports... Is this president an out-of-touch idiot, or a calculated habitual liar?


JIM ACOSTA, CNN: When was the president first made aware of these problems? Of these fraudulent lists that were being kept to hide the wait times, when was he first made aware of those problems? And when did other White House officials, top White House officials, become aware of these problems?

JAY CARNEY: When you say these problems, the fact that there have been bureaucracies --

ACOSTA: The delays have been known for some time.

CARNEY: You mean the specific allegations that I think were reported first by your news network out of Phoenix, I believe. We learned about them through the reports. I will double check if that is not the case.



You can see the exchange here:

Carney: White House Learned About VA Scandal From News Reports | Video | RealClearPolitics

How about all of the above.
 
Again, the White House claims the president learned of the VA scandal through news reports... Is this president an out-of-touch idiot, or a calculated habitual liar?


JIM ACOSTA, CNN: When was the president first made aware of these problems? Of these fraudulent lists that were being kept to hide the wait times, when was he first made aware of those problems? And when did other White House officials, top White House officials, become aware of these problems?

JAY CARNEY: When you say these problems, the fact that there have been bureaucracies --

ACOSTA: The delays have been known for some time.

CARNEY: You mean the specific allegations that I think were reported first by your news network out of Phoenix, I believe. We learned about them through the reports. I will double check if that is not the case.



You can see the exchange here:

Carney: White House Learned About VA Scandal From News Reports | Video | RealClearPolitics


This is the fifth major failure of his administration that Mr Obama has learned about through the news media, others being the IRS, NSA spying on Merkel, Fast and Furious, and the limp Obamacare website.

Tough to believe he wasn't aware with all the work Mrs Obama and Mrs Biden have been doing for the veterans families.

I guess we all should be wondering who he will blame this one on, can't be his fault - at least he didn't break the promise his administration would be different, it's different all right!
 
Re: OMG are you kidding me? Not that excuse AGAIN!

Both...

Reality with interfere with golf outings and house parties....

Another lie from the Carney Barker. It was reported that the Bush team told the incoming Obama transition team about this.
 
Here we go again with the excuse that this administration is either dishonest as hell or just incompetent as hell. A fairly familiar refrain from them.
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Bumping up your thread Grim.
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We are up to 9 now. This is blowing wide open and one wonders where it will stop, huh? They said BO was completely outraged this happened. Do you believe this so..... if so. For about how long. :roll:


Number Nine: Albuquerque VA Accused of Wait List Manipulation, Destroying Evidence.....


These "isolated cases" (Sec. Shinseki) that may or may not be indicative of a larger problem (Jay Carney) certainly are piling up. The latest is out of New Mexico, via The Daily Beast:

Add Albuquerque, New Mexico’s to the growing list of VA hospitals accused of keeping secret waiting lists to hide delays for veterans seeking medical care. And it may already be too late to get to the truth and find out what harm, if any, was done to veterans there—VA officials are already destroying records to cover their tracks, a whistleblower inside the hospital tells The Daily Beast...“The ‘secret wait list’ for patient appointments is being either moved or was destroyed after what happened in Phoenix,” according to a doctor who works at the Albuquerque VA hospital and spoke exclusively with The Daily Beast. “Right now,” the doctor said, “there is an eight-month waiting list for patients to get ultrasounds of their hearts. Some patients have died before they got their studies. It is unknown why they died, some for cardiac reasons, some for other reasons.” There’s no proof yet that veterans died while waiting for treatment, like what allegedly happened in Phoenix. But the doctor says it’s quite possible that some veterans would still be alive if they hadn’t been pushed through a record-keeping trap door that buried their requests for medical care.....snip~

Number Nine: Albuquerque VA Accused of Wait List Manipulation, Destroying Evidence - Guy Benson
 
Its not just Obama. Govt is incompetent, period. He just happens to be the one in charge of administration right now. But hey, you guys keep electing the same people from both parties. Maybe we'll get a different result next time.
 
Its not just Obama. Govt is incompetent, period. He just happens to be the one in charge of administration right now. But hey, you guys keep electing the same people from both parties. Maybe we'll get a different result next time.

Mornin J5.....a little something to check out. ;)


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Veteran Affairs Dept Budget

2014: $154B
2006: $73B

Wait Time in Days for Care

2014: 360
2012: 255
2010: 115
2008: 110

US VA Affairs data.....snip~

Number Nine: Albuquerque VA Accused of Wait List Manipulation, Destroying Evidence - Guy Benson
 
This is the fifth major failure of his administration that Mr Obama has learned about through the news media, others being the IRS, NSA spying on Merkel, Fast and Furious, and the limp Obamacare website.

Tough to believe he wasn't aware with all the work Mrs Obama and Mrs Biden have been doing for the veterans families.

I guess we all should be wondering who he will blame this one on, can't be his fault - at least he didn't break the promise his administration would be different, it's different all right!



Yep Nicnam......and it looks like Obama seems to get all his reports from the news lately. More than likely even as the whatever journalist or reporter prints something up Off their Computer. May be we should see if BO is using Blackshades of the Creepware.....huh? :lol:


Montage: Obama Discovers Every Scandal Through the Media .....





Hows BO's batting average looking. :mrgreen:
 
Carney's taken the lying puppet routine to new levels. Kudo's to him.
 
They said BO was completely outraged this happened.

He was, he was outraged it got out before the midterms, that some reporter had the temerity to report on this.
 
Here we go again with the excuse that this administration is either dishonest as hell or just incompetent as hell. A fairly familiar refrain from them.

It is noted that you attack the messenger rather than bother to discuss the subject. A fairly familiar refrain from your side.
 
He was, he was outraged it got out before the midterms, that some reporter had the temerity to report on this.

Especially with all those Wait times all getting longer and longer on his watch.....Right?
 
It is noted that you attack the messenger rather than bother to discuss the subject. A fairly familiar refrain from your side.
I "attacked" the tactic the messenger has consistently employed from issue to issue, something that escaped your notation. The humorous joke/photo must have distracted you, that or your Jedi mind powers gleaming "my side" in all of this did.:roll:
 
I "attacked" the tactic the messenger has consistently employed from issue to issue, something that escaped your notation. The humorous joke/photo must have distracted you, that or your Jedi mind powers gleaming "my side" in all of this did.:roll:

You can spin all day long, it does not change the reality you came into the thread to attack those that put forth a news story. You did not comment on the validity of the story, you did not comment on the story at all. You just came in to do a little drive by attack.

It is understandable that you have nothing to say about the story, as it would look silly to defend it or try to (yet again) excuse away the deniability it seems this administration seems to use constantly. But I am guessing the inability to comment on content goes far beyond that for you…
 
Its the age old conundrum for the Obama administration...admit you knew and look incompetent and corrupt, or deny that you know and just look like out of touch morons. The Obama precedent has been to choose "look like out of touch morons".

Que music...

 
You can spin all day long, it does not change the reality you came into the thread to attack those that put forth a news story. You did not comment on the validity of the story, you did not comment on the story at all. You just came in to do a little drive by attack.

It is understandable that you have nothing to say about the story, as it would look silly to defend it or try to (yet again) excuse away the deniability it seems this administration seems to use constantly. But I am guessing the inability to comment on content goes far beyond that for you…
That you don't like that I pointed out the "we are either lying or incompetent boobs who only ever learn about anything by watching the news" tactic routinely employed by the administration is really not of any consequence. It is a fact that has been their excuse over and over again. What is noted is that you can spin all day long, it does not change the reality that you came into the thread to attck me for making a joke. You did not comment on anything at all, offering literally only a drive by attack. It is understandable that you have noting to say about the story, but this whining at me about the behavior you are engaging in is rather amusing as well hypocritical. But I'm guessing you decided you had actually been participating in the thread when you ignored the content to attack me. :doh
 
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