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Carney: White House Learned About VA Scandal From News Reports[W:72]

That the wait times increased each year under BO.....and that he knew about the problem going back to 2007.

Ok sure, but that has nothing to do with my post you quoted about govt being generally incompetent. It doesnt matter who is in charge. Obama is incompetent and a liar. Duh. So is everyone else in office.
 
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Fact is Obama knew about problems in 2007, on the campaign trail. Aren't you more disappointed he didn't DO something about it once he was elected? Addressing the issue is just more lip service like we got yesterday, with no urgency, no action, and more faux outrage. The facts show he doesn't care about veterans all the much actually.

The fact is Obama trusted the people at the VA to care about the vets they serve. He can't control what's in the hearts and minds of every individual, but if they caught committing a crime, he can put them in jail and I suspect that is exactly where these people will go.



The facts show that Obama cares more about vets than his predecessor ever did.....

The Obameter: Campaign Promises that are about Veterans | PolitiFact
 
Obama no longer needs the veterans votes so he has gone back to despising those who served.

One thing is for sure...the GOP never gave a damn about vets ...ever.
 
One thing is for sure...the GOP never gave a damn about vets ...ever.

The GOP has gotten the military and veterans votes since 1972.

Why do you think the Dems tried to have the military absentee votes thrown out and demanded recounts in heavy retired military precincts ?

Remember when Obama wanted to end Tri-Care for those serving in the military claiming since they weren't drafted and volunteered they should pay for their own health care. Why doesn't the MSM remind America about that ?

Military Veterans of All Ages Tend to Be More Republican

Iraq and Afghanistan veterans prefer George W. Bush to Barack Obama as commander in chief, according to a Washington Post-Kaiser Family Foundation poll.

>"Sixty-five percent of post-9/11 veterans say that Bush was a good commander in chief while just 42 percent say the same of Obama..."<

War vets miss commander in chief George W. Bush
 
One thing is for sure...the GOP never gave a damn about vets ...ever.

For sure, huh? Nothing partisan about that comment.
 
I wonder why the reporters even show up for Carney's press sessions. There is no reason to believe anything he says. I was born during the Roosevelt administration so I've heard a lot of press secretaries. This one lies more than the others combined. it is truly insane. The administration has been aware of the VA problem since the beginning. The prior administration warned them about it. They didn't fix it either. Let's shut the down the VA and simply buy private insurance policies for the veterans. It would save us a lot of money and provide better health care for the veterans.
 
For sure, huh? Nothing partisan about that comment.
These kinds of broad generalizations and frankly imbecilic declarations are a matter of routine with this and other DP members. You figure out who the members giving birth to bromides are pretty quickly I have found. Pursue "discourse" with these types at your extreme leisure as such will be a utter waste of your time otherwise. ;)
 
The GOP has gotten the military and veterans votes since 1972.
Still, the GOP never gave a damn about veterans. Instead of all that time and money wasted on abortion and Benghazi why didn't congress hold more hearings on the VA ...aka oversight. Oversight is the job is of congress, is it not? So what have the conservatives in congress ever done for or to protect veterans?

Why do you think the Dems tried to have the military absentee votes thrown out and demanded recounts in heavy retired military precincts ?
I'm not sure they ever did.

Remember when Obama wanted to end Tri-Care for those serving in the military claiming since they weren't drafted and volunteered they should pay for their own health care. Why doesn't the MSM remind America about that ? The Obameter: Campaign Promises that are about Veterans | PolitiFact
The GOP doesn't want veterans to have ANY health care at all. Why doesn't FoxNews talk about that?

https://www.politicususa.com/2014/0...hcare-republicans-refuse-expand-medicaid.html
 
For sure, huh? Nothing partisan about that comment.
For you to ignore one side of a partisan debate exposes the hypocricy and bias in your comment, fmw.
 
Still, the GOP never gave a damn about veterans. Instead of all that time and money wasted on abortion and Benghazi why didn't congress hold more hearings on the VA ...aka oversight. Oversight is the job is of congress, is it not? So what have the conservatives in congress ever done for or to protect veterans?

If you remember, the VA falls under the Executive branch of government and during the past six years any time Congress tried to have oversight of the Executive branch of government the left called it racist.
 
Again, the White House claims the president learned of the VA scandal through news reports... Is this president an out-of-touch idiot, or a calculated habitual liar?


JIM ACOSTA, CNN: When was the president first made aware of these problems? Of these fraudulent lists that were being kept to hide the wait times, when was he first made aware of those problems? And when did other White House officials, top White House officials, become aware of these problems?

JAY CARNEY: When you say these problems, the fact that there have been bureaucracies --

ACOSTA: The delays have been known for some time.

CARNEY: You mean the specific allegations that I think were reported first by your news network out of Phoenix, I believe. We learned about them through the reports. I will double check if that is not the case.



You can see the exchange here:

Carney: White House Learned About VA Scandal From News Reports | Video | RealClearPolitics

If he is learning all his information from the news then I think he can save the tax payers some money by firing all his advisers/aids.Just leave the whitehouse tvs on different news channels all day.
 
If you remember, the VA falls under the Executive branch of government and during the past six years any time Congress tried to have oversight of the Executive branch of government the left called it racist.
Perhaps you forgot that "Oversight" for the VA falls under the jurisdiction of congress .........

Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations (O&I) | House Committee on Veterans' Affairs

How many hearings and investigations did they have to see if the VA was reducing the waiting list back log?
 
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Reminds me when G.W. Bush tried to increase Congress oversight on Fannie and Freddie and Senator Obama filibustered the bill.

So now that your memory has been refreshed that congress provides the oversight for the VA...you might try to answer my question......


Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations (O&I) | House Committee on Veterans' Affairs

How many hearings and investigations did the Republican House Committee on Veterans and Sub-committee on O&I have to see if the VA was reducing the waiting list back log?
 
Perhaps you forgot that "Oversight" for the VA falls under the jurisdiction of congress .........

Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations (O&I) | House Committee on Veterans' Affairs

How many hearings and investigations did they have to see if the VA was reducing the waiting list back log?

And Obama has done what again? He campaigned and criticized Bush for the management of the VA and promised to take charge. Well like everything else, he once again is a failure.
 
And Obama has done what again? He campaigned and criticized Bush for the management of the VA and promised to take charge. Well like everything else, he once again is a failure.
The executive branch isn't the oversight for the VA...congress is.

So how many hearings and investigations did congressional oversight committees have to see if the VA was reducing the waiting list back log?
 
So now that your memory has been refreshed that congress provides the oversight for the VA...you might try to answer my question......


Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations (O&I) | House Committee on Veterans' Affairs

How many hearings and investigations did the Republican House Committee on Veterans and Sub-committee on O&I have to see if the VA was reducing the waiting list back log?

Congress provides oversight. The Executive Branch is responsible and accountable.:peace
 
Congress provides oversight. The Executive Branch is responsible and accountable.:peace

Why is Obama accountable for congresses failure to do oversight and investigate the VA?
 
The executive branch isn't the oversight for the VA...congress is.

So how many hearings and investigations did congressional oversight committees have to see if the VA was reducing the waiting list back log?

You better let Obama and his cabinet know that they aren't responsible.
 
Why is Obama accountable for congresses failure to do oversight and investigate the VA?

Having spent over three decades in the federal government, I assure you that responsibility and accountability reside exclusively in the executive branch for all federal departments and agencies. Congress has oversight to ensure that responsibility is exercised and accountability is recognized. But Congress has zero responsibility for federal executive management.:peace
 
Having spent over three decades in the federal government, I assure you that responsibility and accountability reside exclusively in the executive branch for all federal departments and agencies. Congress has oversight to ensure that responsibility is exercised and accountability is recognized. But Congress has zero responsibility for federal executive management.:peace

The lefts interest in assigning blame is understandable in context. This looks bad-very bad for Obama.
 
You better let Obama and his cabinet know that they aren't responsible.
Uhh, the Veterans Administration falls under the executive branch. Who's in charge of of Obama's cabinet, Obama or congress?

Congress is responsible for legislating, funding, monitoring, regulating, oversight and investigating the federal agencies in the executive branch. It was their job to investigate any problems that the VA might have and to help provide a solution or remedy. They've known about the back log at the VA at least since 2003. But they seem to have failed to do their job to even provide oversight for the VA.....until last week. If it weren't for media they probably wouldn't have done anything at all.


"...Congressional oversight refers to oversight by the United States Congress on the Executive Branch, including the numerous U.S. federal agencies. Congressional oversight refers to the review, monitoring, and supervision of federal agencies, programs, activities, and policy implementation.[1] Congress exercises this power largely through its congressional committee system. However, oversight, which dates to the earliest days of the Republic, also occurs in a wide variety of congressional activities and contexts. These include authorization, appropriations, investigative, and legislative hearings by standing committees; specialized investigations by select committees; and reviews and studies by congressional support agencies and staff.

Congress’s oversight authority derives from its “implied” powers in the Constitution, public laws, and House and Senate rules. It is an integral part of the American system of checks and balances....

If Congress believes that an agency has drifted from its original mandate, Congress can respond in a number of ways. Congress can pass a law to overrule agency decisions, or to narrow the agency's jurisdiction. Congress can use its appropriations power to restrict the agency's funding. Congress can also narrow the agency's regulatory authority.....

Congressional oversight - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia









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