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Fast-food workers kick off global labor action

The idea of fast food (unskilled and untrained) are worth $15 an hour plus the burdens of employment (about 20%) is ridiculous.

There is a reason why McDonald's ordered 7,000 tablet order devices for its euro stores - they will get the bugs worked out and replace the people here who believe they should earn FAR more than they are worth.
 
I think they'd probably be a lot more successful, and garner a lot more support if they were asking for something more reasonable. $15/hr is nearly double what they're making now.
 
:roll: Yea because its about socialism. I just think they should get paid a $15 wage because it keeps up with productivity and inflation, and its also because ifs liveable, and allows more purchasing power.

Yeah, a $15 "cheap" hamburger. :lol:
 
To pay such unskilled labor as working at a fast food restaurant at such a high rate enforced by law is to greatly impact the way that labor is valued to a business. Wages are not arbitrary. In reality, a fast food worker is extremely disposable. There is an enormous supply of unemployed and able workers for the market. That is why the wage of that particular labor is so low. Now, if there were less supply, to the point that they actually had to search for employees, the wages would naturally rise. That is how economics *generally* work
 
College is there for those that work for it. Yes, it means WORK, ya know that old fashioned "no partying, scrape by and work your ass off" work?

Also, one need not "go to college" to earn marketable skills. I understand you care, you want people to have nice things, but you cannot, it does not work to just throw money at the problem.

The path to success is hard work, not get rich quick scheming.

When I got out the Navy I had a 40Kjob lined up that fell through. I was making 8 bucks an hour and the wife (who has a degree) was working part time. We now broke 80K this year and she's on tap to get a quarter mil or better check when the company sells. We lived with very little, and busted our asses. Guess what? We didn't whine, we didn't demand high pay for **** work. We worked hard, I changed jobs, she did too eventually landing solid, salaried jobs.

Because we understood no one owed us anything, we didn't deserve a living wage, just because life was hard, we decided min wage wasn't enough and worked for better.

That concept, is lost to a whole generation of entitled ****s and the rest are brain washed into thinking that hard work is mean.

What I find funy is that soo many think that minimum wage jobs are not WORK. Yeah, it might not be complicated work in many cases. But to say that its not WORK? I'd love to see all those college educated "I'm better than you because I got a college degree" numbnuts dig ditches for a year for minimum wage. Or sit behind a hot stove cooking for hundreds of people that only care about feeding their faces and wouldn't even acknowledge your presense walking down the street. Or unload a semi truck loaded with TV's, VCR's, and 50 lb bags of food in 20 minutes by hand...no powered tools/machines.

If every minimum wage worker stopped working for one week this country, and any other country it happened in, all of those "highly educated" people would be in a world of hurt. Yeah, you could just hire more to do all that, but in the mean time you're in a world of hurt. Maybe then you'd actually appreciate minimum wage workers instead of just crapping on them.

And no, I don't work for minimum wage. So sorry, can't use that against me.

Now, all this said, I don't support the minimum wage being raised to $15 per hour. Doing so would be a futile effort for the simple fact that all those "educated people" would just increase the prices of products to offset the increase in wages and/or fire people to offset it. And there's not a damn thing that the government could do to prevent it without regulating the prices of every single product out there. An impossible task by itself and would require too big of a government. The only way that the poor will actually be able to start living decently is if they stop buying products regardless of the price. Start refusing to buy something that costs $15 to make for $500. Prices will drop because it will start effecting their bottom lines.....Hmm..maybe there is a way for the government to help the poor start living decently...require ALL businesses to list the price it takes to make their products. With that requirement a whole new business could even spring up. Auditors for bottom prices it takes to make X items. ;)
 
What I find funy is that soo many think that minimum wage jobs are not WORK. Yeah, it might not be complicated work in many cases. But to say that its not WORK? I'd love to see all those college educated "I'm better than you because I got a college degree" numbnuts dig ditches for a year for minimum wage. Or sit behind a hot stove cooking for hundreds of people that only care about feeding their faces and wouldn't even acknowledge your presense walking down the street. Or unload a semi truck loaded with TV's, VCR's, and 50 lb bags of food in 20 minutes by hand...no powered tools/machines.

If every minimum wage worker stopped working for one week this country, and any other country it happened in, all of those "highly educated" people would be in a world of hurt. Yeah, you could just hire more to do all that, but in the mean time you're in a world of hurt. Maybe then you'd actually appreciate minimum wage workers instead of just crapping on them.

... I don't crap on min wage workers or don't think it's not "work". I just crap on people who never move off min wage and demand pay that their work doesn't justify.
 
... I don't crap on min wage workers or don't think it's not "work". I just crap on people who never move off min wage and demand pay that their work doesn't justify.

You most certainly did crap on min wage workers by saying that they don't "WORK". As if you somehow work harder than min wage workers. And it is nothing more than you're opinion that thier work doesn't justify it. Their work most certainly DOES entitle them to a decent living. The way things currently are the minimum wage worker does not get that decent living.
 
You most certainly did crap on min wage workers by saying that they don't "WORK". As if you somehow work harder than min wage workers. And it is nothing more than you're opinion that thier work doesn't justify it. Their work most certainly DOES entitle them to a decent living. The way things currently are the minimum wage worker does not get that decent living.

Kal, it's low skill work. I never said it wasn't work. And no, they aren't entitled to a "decent living" they are entitled to a living that their skills earn them. If they don't like their living situation the onus is on them to change it. Not demand the rest of us make their mediocrity more bearable.
 
I wanted more money also but I went back to school so I could learn things in order to be a greater asset to the company of my choice. These knuckle draggers know only one thing, "Mo Money". They are where they are due to one thing and one thing only - themselves.
 
$30,000+ a year to work the drive up window at McDonald's? I'm having a hard time with that.
 
If they are successful, I want to buy and unwrap one of those cheeseburgers that they show in the TV commercials. Mine always looks like it was accidentally dropped on the floor and partially stepped on before it was wrapped.
 
More purchasing power for a larger percentage of the population within a consumer economy = healthier consumer economy.

Assuming you mean higher wages equals purchasing power, that only works if there is value behind the wage. Otherwise, businesses just raise prices to account for higher costs, which means less purchasing power. So it cancels it out. If paying them more resulted in higher profits (productivity) in some way, then that would indeed be a healthier economy. It normally works the other way around. An employee demonstrates value and then gets compensation.
 
Wow amazing. I support them.

I support their right to protest, though I went to a McDonald's that day and it was business as usual. I don't support their cause. Sorry, $15p/hr is way too much to do that work. I've had part time jobs fixing computers, requiring much more skill, that pay $14p/hr.
 
Assuming you mean higher wages equals purchasing power, that only works if there is value behind the wage. Otherwise, businesses just raise prices to account for higher costs, which means less purchasing power. So it cancels it out. If paying them more resulted in higher profits (productivity) in some way, then that would indeed be a healthier economy. It normally works the other way around. An employee demonstrates value and then gets compensation.

Competition keeps prices low.
 
:roll: Yea because its about socialism. I just think they should get paid a $15 wage because it keeps up with productivity and inflation, and its also because ifs liveable, and allows more purchasing power.

Yeah, God forbid we pay them what the job is worth.:)
 
Yeah, a $15 "cheap" hamburger. :lol:

Yea... Estimates say it will raise the cost by .69... Really "expensive" :roll:
Hell some economists say nothing will happen to price because prices are not set by the cost of production of something but instead by the supply and demand for that item.
 
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Then the 20 and over crowd need to improve their skills to rise above minimum wage. The best way to do that is through education.

Professional, technical, vocational...

Ohh the simplistic view of life. How nice.
 
The Subway here has a tip jar by the register.

Never seen one here. And I believe it was company policy when i worked there like 6-7 years ago. But hey maybe policy changed.
But speaking of Subway, the CEO of Subway is in favor of minimum wage hike.
 
The idea of fast food (unskilled and untrained) are worth $15 an hour plus the burdens of employment (about 20%) is ridiculous.

There is a reason why McDonald's ordered 7,000 tablet order devices for its euro stores - they will get the bugs worked out and replace the people here who believe they should earn FAR more than they are worth.

That should be done anyway. Certain jobs become archaic with technology, it happens and will continue to do so. There's no reason why people should be wasting their time doing a job that a tablet can do oh so much better. Then you need engineers, computer programmers, and skilled technicians to handle all those devices. And those are jobs that are worth a living wage.

It's like here in NJ we cannot pump our own gas. State law. "Saving jobs". But why the hell should government subsidize archaic and unnecessary jobs? People shouldn't be wasting their time pumping gas for a living. Inefficient and unnecessary jobs go the way of the Dodo. New jobs replace it.
 
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