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Nigeria school attack: why US hasn't sent Special Forces to rescue girls

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Nigeria school attack: why US hasn't sent Special Forces to rescue girls

The United States is sending eight military personnel to Nigeria to offer intelligence assistance following the kidnapping of nearly 300 schoolgirls, but if Washington were serious about helping find them, why not offer up a contingent of US Special Operations Forces to help do the job?
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That is the question posed by some lawmakers, who note that such rescue and extraction missions are, after all, a Special Ops specialty. And how tricky could it be, they add, to overpower a brutal, but military undisciplined, rebel group?


There's not much we can do by sending in troops to rescue the Nigerian school girls, because soon as they see soldiers they'll start slaughtering them. If the Boko Haram separate themselves from the girls holding area, we could theoretically drone attack them but we'd need a coordinated ground assault to eliminate all threats and take control of the rescue.

Now, Intelligence indicates that many of the girls may have been split up into small groups and moved to different locations, and these locations are remote and difficult to penetrate.

Instead of searching for one group of 250 girls, law enforcement and the military are likely looking for 25 groups of 10 girls or 50 groups of five girls. This poses an enormous challenge and diminishes the possibility of a dramatic rescue that will bring this crisis to a quick close.

The campaign to apply pressure by reaching out through social media, using the Twitter hashtag '#BringBackOurGirls,' protests have spread across the world calling for the Nigerian government to take stronger action and for the international community to help.

The point is, what can we do and should we be trying to help more?

I'm not sure this countries citizens (Hollywood), gov't and Media know when and what to fight.
 
Nigeria school attack: why US hasn't sent Special Forces to rescue girls




There's not much we can do by sending in troops to rescue the Nigerian school girls, because soon as they see soldiers they start slaughtering them. If the Boko Haram seperate themselves from the girls holding area, we could theoretically drone attack them but we'd need a coordinated ground assault to eliminate all threats and take control of the rescue.

Now, Intelligence indicates that many of the girls may have been split up into small groups and moved to different locations, and these locations are remote and difficult to penetrate.

Instead of searching for one group of 250 girls, law enforcement and the military are likely looking for 25 groups of 10 girls or 50 groups of five girls. This poses an enormous challenge and diminishes the possibility of a dramatic rescue that will bring this crisis to a quick close.

The campaign to apply pressure by reaching out through social media, using the Twitter hashtag '#BringBackOurGirls,' protests have spread across the world calling for the Nigerian government to take stronger action and for the international community to help.

The point is, what can we do and should we be trying to help more?

I'm not sure this countries citizens (Hollywood), gov't and Media know when and what to fight.


Heya Grip. :2wave: According to some.....they have split the girls into groups now. Also some are saying the Nigerian Military knew this attack was coming. Plus they only asked for our help not more than a few days ago.
 
Heya Grip. :2wave: According to some.....they have split the girls into groups now. Also some are saying the Nigerian Military knew this attack was coming. Plus they only asked for our help not more than a few days ago.

I feel terrible about it, like most normal people would, but we're not able to always fix everything with military power and money.
 
it's not our playground, and it's they aren't our girls.

we have many many more go missing here right in our own playground... and you don't see celebs and folks going bananas over getting them back, do ya?

I wouldn't doubt the Nigerian government gets a kickback on the sales of humans...
 
I feel terrible about it, like most normal people would, but we're not able to always fix everything with military power and money.

A US team of drone pilots and technicians would throw as much fear into the hearts of the terrorists as anything.
 
Of course, if Clinton had designated this group as a terror group when the evidence was presented to her two years ago, we would be better suited to handle the situation. We could have better intelligence and may even be able to recover some of the girls quickly. We may have even gotten lucky and prevented the attack all together.
 
A US team of drone pilots and technicians would throw as much fear into the hearts of the terrorists as anything.

But in this case they could be staying close to the girls for this very reason, so a drone doesn't take them out without killing the girls.
 
I feel terrible about it, like most normal people would, but we're not able to always fix everything with military power and money.

Well, I don't care for the last minute outcry of emotion for that which people were warning back to March on.

Also......Check out what MO has to say all about this issue and then what she says about all girls. She gave the Nations Weekly Address this week.

Like you I wish it wouldn't have happened and God knows what these girls are being put thru. Also One other thing is clear. Boko Haram listens to Western media and Social Sites.

http://www.debatepolitics.com/us-pa...ms/193497-mo-gives-weekly-nation-address.html
 
Well, I don't care for the last minute outcry of emotion for that which people were warning back to March on.

Also......Check out what MO has to say all about this issue and then what she says about all girls. She gave the Nations Weekly Address this week.

Like you I wish it wouldn't have happened and God knows what these girls are being put thru. Also One other thing is clear. Boko Haram listens to Western media and Social Sites.

http://www.debatepolitics.com/us-pa...ms/193497-mo-gives-weekly-nation-address.html


Obama sends mixed signals of being tolerant of the Muslim religion in general but prosecuting the extremists forms of it. Most of the Sharia Laws are not favorable to women.

I agree with you that this became a Media induced outcry and Hollyweird has jumped in.
 
Obama sends mixed signals of being tolerant of the Muslim religion in general but prosecuting the extremists forms of it. Most of the Sharia Laws are not favorable to women.

I agree with you that this became a Media induced outcry and Hollyweird has jumped in.


Oh Indeed it did Grip.....here is how much all are playing on this.

Boko Haram’s New War Song: “We Will Enter Churches and Slaughter Christians…”

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In a video explaining how they attacked Giwa Barracks earlier this month, the Nigeria-based Islamist militant group, Boko Haram, also sang songs about how they plan to continue targeting Christians, churches, and the country at large.


Sahara Reporters brings you the latest from the Religion of Peace (emphasis mine):

As a result of attacks by Boko Haram and “uncontrolled reprisals” by Nigeria’s security forces, there have been more than 1,500 deaths in the country in 2014 so far, according to Amnesty International. Boko Haram is responsible for more than half of the killings, however, which includes “scores of schoolchildren who have been the victims of deliberate attacks.”

According to the United States Institute of Peace, Boko Haram believes "the politics in northern Nigeria has been seized by a group of corrupt, false Muslims" and therefore wants to wage a war against them, the Nigerian government, military, and civilians in order to "create a "pure" Islamic state ruled by sharia law." .....snip~

Boko Haram

http://www.debatepolitics.com/afric...-enter-churches-and-slaughter-christians.html


Here was what I said back on March 31 of this year. I had this up in the Africa thread back then. ;)


These guys need to be put down like a rabid dog. They don't care who they go after. Muslim, Christian, or other. What say ye?
 
Obama sends mixed signals of being tolerant of the Muslim religion in general but prosecuting the extremists forms of it. Most of the Sharia Laws are not favorable to women.

I agree with you that this became a Media induced outcry and Hollyweird has jumped in.

You have no idea what Sharia says.
 
Nigeria school attack: why US hasn't sent Special Forces to rescue girls




There's not much we can do by sending in troops to rescue the Nigerian school girls, because soon as they see soldiers they'll start slaughtering them. If the Boko Haram separate themselves from the girls holding area, we could theoretically drone attack them but we'd need a coordinated ground assault to eliminate all threats and take control of the rescue.

Now, Intelligence indicates that many of the girls may have been split up into small groups and moved to different locations, and these locations are remote and difficult to penetrate.

Instead of searching for one group of 250 girls, law enforcement and the military are likely looking for 25 groups of 10 girls or 50 groups of five girls. This poses an enormous challenge and diminishes the possibility of a dramatic rescue that will bring this crisis to a quick close.

The campaign to apply pressure by reaching out through social media, using the Twitter hashtag '#BringBackOurGirls,' protests have spread across the world calling for the Nigerian government to take stronger action and for the international community to help.

The point is, what can we do and should we be trying to help more?

I'm not sure this countries citizens (Hollywood), gov't and Media know when and what to fight.

We do better not to transmit our movements...Boko Haram has access to the news outlet just as you.
The girls are not like the plane at the bottom of the deep blue sea. Their movements can be detected.
 
A US team of drone pilots and technicians would throw as much fear into the hearts of the terrorists as anything.

I know look at all the terrorists in Pakistan and Yemen running scared, oh nevermind
 
Oh Indeed it did Grip.....here is how much all are playing on this.

Boko Haram’s New War Song: “We Will Enter Churches and Slaughter Christians…”

0446b986-5575-4df1-b1a5-6f2b6dd418df.jpg


In a video explaining how they attacked Giwa Barracks earlier this month, the Nigeria-based Islamist militant group, Boko Haram, also sang songs about how they plan to continue targeting Christians, churches, and the country at large.


Sahara Reporters brings you the latest from the Religion of Peace (emphasis mine):

As a result of attacks by Boko Haram and “uncontrolled reprisals” by Nigeria’s security forces, there have been more than 1,500 deaths in the country in 2014 so far, according to Amnesty International. Boko Haram is responsible for more than half of the killings, however, which includes “scores of schoolchildren who have been the victims of deliberate attacks.”

According to the United States Institute of Peace, Boko Haram believes "the politics in northern Nigeria has been seized by a group of corrupt, false Muslims" and therefore wants to wage a war against them, the Nigerian government, military, and civilians in order to "create a "pure" Islamic state ruled by sharia law." .....snip~

Boko Haram

http://www.debatepolitics.com/afric...-enter-churches-and-slaughter-christians.html


Here was what I said back on March 31 of this year. I had this up in the Africa thread back then. ;)


These guys need to be put down like a rabid dog. They don't care who they go after. Muslim, Christian, or other. What say ye?


I'm not big on War or revenge but my tolerance and patience is not without end. Once I decide there's an enemy to defend against, I come after them like the gates of hell.
 
You have no idea what Sharia says.

You know this how?


We do better not to transmit our movements...Boko Haram has access to the news outlet just as you.
The girls are not like the plane at the bottom of the deep blue sea. Their movements can be detected.

I'm sure there's intel gathering going on right now we're not privy too.
 
I'm not big on War or revenge but my tolerance and patience is not without end. Once I decide there's an enemy to defend against, I come after them like the gates of hell.

We and any others, should have started slaughtering these ones. Wholesale!
 
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Of course, if Clinton had designated this group as a terror group when the evidence was presented to her two years ago, we would be better suited to handle the situation. We could have better intelligence and may even be able to recover some of the girls quickly. We may have even gotten lucky and prevented the attack all together.

And if wishes were horses.....Kerry designated them in 2013, it was oh so effective.

It is not our job to protect the world...even if we could.
 
Nigeria school attack: why US hasn't sent Special Forces to rescue girls

There's not much we can do by sending in troops to rescue the Nigerian school girls, because soon as they see soldiers they'll start slaughtering them. If the Boko Haram separate themselves from the girls holding area, we could theoretically drone attack them but we'd need a coordinated ground assault to eliminate all threats and take control of the rescue.

Now, Intelligence indicates that many of the girls may have been split up into small groups and moved to different locations, and these locations are remote and difficult to penetrate.

Instead of searching for one group of 250 girls, law enforcement and the military are likely looking for 25 groups of 10 girls or 50 groups of five girls. This poses an enormous challenge and diminishes the possibility of a dramatic rescue that will bring this crisis to a quick close.

The campaign to apply pressure by reaching out through social media, using the Twitter hashtag '#BringBackOurGirls,' protests have spread across the world calling for the Nigerian government to take stronger action and for the international community to help.

The point is, what can we do and should we be trying to help more?

I'm not sure this countries citizens (Hollywood), gov't and Media know when and what to fight.

We should be helping the UN to take responsibility to protect into its hands.
 
And if wishes were horses.....Kerry designated them in 2013, it was oh so effective.

It is not our job to protect the world...even if we could.

Ah using the horrific kidnapping of hundreds of girls to attack political opponents... Isn't American politics fantastic?

Speaking of which there is evidence to suggest Nigerian authorities knew there was a kidnapping threat and did nothing... Guess that's Hillary's fault as well...
 
And if wishes were horses.....Kerry designated them in 2013, it was oh so effective.

It is not our job to protect the world...even if we could.

No, we cannot protect the world. But, in extraordinary circumstances we must. Not because we are the world's protector, but because we can. Those that look evil in the face and turn a blind eye are worse than the evilitself.
 
No, we cannot protect the world. But, in extraordinary circumstances we must. Not because we are the world's protector, but because we can. Those that look evil in the face and turn a blind eye are worse than the evilitself.

So we get that your first post in this thread is a political jab and nothing else...

Would you care to explain to the rest of the class how America, not having any personell in northern Nigeria, whose authorities supposedly had early warning about a kidnapping could have done anything to prevent it?

And as an African myself, I would really prefer it if you didn't use this tragedy as a political football in your idiotic right wing left wing hamster wheel you've bought into.
 
Ah using the horrific kidnapping of hundreds of girls to attack political opponents... Isn't American politics fantastic?

Here's a hint, no politics are.

Speaking of which there is evidence to suggest Nigerian authorities knew there was a kidnapping threat and did nothing... Guess that's Hillary's fault as well...

Lame...
 
The sad news is that most of these girls won't be recovered.

That isn't to say they're gone forever, plenty of girls have been recovered from groups like the lords resistance army who did similar things before... But not until they're much older and have been through a horrific ordeal.

Physically, mentally and emotionally they will be destroyed and will never be the same again.

Groups like Boko Haram are the scum of the earth, their power lies in ignorance and fear and they will be defeated, there is no future for barbarians like them.
 
Ah using the horrific kidnapping of hundreds of girls to attack political opponents... Isn't American politics fantastic?

Speaking of which there is evidence to suggest Nigerian authorities knew there was a kidnapping threat and did nothing... Guess that's Hillary's fault as well...

That's the point though, we can't run Nigeria for Nigerians.
 
So we get that your first post in this thread is a political jab and nothing else...

Would you care to explain to the rest of the class how America, not having any personell in northern Nigeria, whose authorities supposedly had early warning about a kidnapping could have done anything to prevent it?

And as an African myself, I would really prefer it if you didn't use this tragedy as a political football in your idiotic right wing left wing hamster wheel you've bought into.

That snarky comment is funny. Maybe you should redirect your anger at the politics of those from the Dark Continent in which you hail.

And, BTW, what you prefer is insignificant in a political thread, especially when you request it from those you disparage.
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